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Seventeenth street west to Georgetown; an increase of the Auxiliary Guard, under a new system of organization, sufficient to make them an efficient body; of supplying the city with pure water from the Great Fails of the Potomac; and the extension of a line of gas lights from the bridge aforesaid to High street in Georgetown, and thence along said street to its western termination.

Mr. UNDERWOOD. All these subjects were brought before the Senate by a variety of memorials which I presented during the last session of Congress. These memorials are on file, and have been requested to bring the subject to the attention of the Senate again. I have thought best to do so by the resolution of inquiry. I hope the Senate will adopt it, and then I will take from the files the petitions on the various stub jects embraced in it, that they may be referred to the same committee.

Mr. CASS. I object to the consideration of the resolution at this time. I do not do so because of any objection to the resolution itself; but I have a resolution before the Senate, upon which I am anxious to have its action; and it will not come up at all during the session, if every other resolution is discussed, as it is presented, and adopted.

COLONEL TALCOTT.

Mr. FISH submitted the following resolution; which was considered by unanimous consent:

Resolved, That the Secretary of War be directed to communicate to the Senate a copy of the proceedings of the General Court-Martial held in the city of Washington in June and July last, upon the trial of George Talcott, Colonet of Ordnance and Brigadier General by brevet in the Army of the United States; and of the testimony taken before the said court: together with the finding and sentence of the court, and the approval thereof by the President.

Mr. HALE. I shall vote against that resolution, for this reason: Various attempts have been made in the Senate to obtain copies of the proceedings of court-martials upon private soldiers and sailors even when they have been put to death, and the Senate has refused to interfere. It refused to call for the proceedings of the trial of sailors who were put to death on board the Somers. And last session I made application to call for a copy of the proceedings of a court by which some private soldiers in a fort at Portsmouth were sentenced to wear iron collars with prongs around them, and balls attached to their feet, for twelve months. I could never get it. Private soldiers and sailors may be subjected to the most infernal and horrible torments which can be devised, and applications to the Senate to call for the proceedings in their cases are refused. If we do not interfere to protect the private, I am opposed to interfering for the officer. But as soon as an officer is tried we have orders for publications that would outnumber the pages of the Bible. For these reasons I am opposed to the resolution.

Mr. BADGER. I would suggest to the honorable Senator who introduced this resolution, that there is perhaps some unnecessary language in it. We have been in the habit of considering that a call for the proceedings of a court-martial was necessarily a call for the evidence and everything in those proceedings.

Several SENATORS. It does no harm.
Mr. BADGER. I admit that it does not.

Mr. GWIN. I think this case is one in which we ought to have the papers, because it will come up before the Senate in another form. A nomination has to be made to fill the vacancy occasioned by the removal of Colonel Talcott. If I understand the case properly, it is important that we should have the papers, and the sooner we get them the better.

Mr. SEWARD. I have a single question about this resolution which I will propose for the consideration of those who are wiser than I am: whether it ought not to be addressed to the President of the United States instead of to the Secretary of War? I suppose that the sending of such papers here is a question left to the discretion of the President. I would ask my colleague to consent to an amendment, substituting the President of the United States for the Secretary of War, and putting in the qualification, "if consistent with the public interest."

Mr. FISH. I have no objection to such an amendment, if it is necessary. I understand, however, that the resolution is now in the form usual for calls upon heads of Departments. I presume the Senate is perfectly competent to direct a Secretary to transmit such papers as it may deem necessary for its own enlightenment with regard to the business which is to come be

fore it. The memorial which I presented this morning contemplates some further action by the Senate in the case of Colonel Talcott. For that action the proceedings of this court will become essentially necessary. They are voluminous, and it will take some time to prepare them. We know not when the Senate may be called upon in another capacity to act upon the case. I believe

the resolution is in the form usual in such cases.
If it be not, I will consent to the amendment.
Mr. SEWARD. I would say to my colleague
that learned Senators around me are of the opinion
that it will facilitate the passage of the resolution
to substitute the President for the Secretary of
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War, and to insert "if consistent with the public
interest."

Several SENATORS. Oh, no.
The resolution was adopted.

OFFICERS OF THE SENATE.

BRIGHT, on the 8th instant, was called up for conThe following resolution, submitted by Mr.

sideration:

Resolved, That the following shall be a standing rule of Senate, to wit:

The Secretary of the Senate, the Sergeant-at-Arms, the Doorkeeper, and Assistant Doorkeeper, shall be chosen on the 3d Monday of the present Congress, (first session of the 32d,) and on the second Monday of the first session of every succeeding Congress.

Mr. BRIGHT asked for the yeas and nays on the resolution; and they were ordered.

Mr. BERRIEN. Mr. President, if I recollect aright, that rule was, after consideration by the Senate, repealed, upon a view of the inconvenience which resulted from frequent removals of the ministerial officers of the Senate. I really would desire, before I can give my vote in favor of this resolution, to know upon what grounds this change is proposed. It seems to me to be inconsistent with the character of this body to elect its ministerial officers every two years. The result of the operation of that rule would be to deprive the Senate of the benefit which is received from the experience which the persons filling those offices have in relation to its proceedings. believe that there is no Presiding Officer who does not frequently find a great benefit from referring to some of those officers with regard to senatorial proceedings. I hope that however much or however little we may regard precedents in other cases, we shall adhere to precedent in this case. unwilling, for myself, to encounter the risk, by a biennial election, of depriving the Chair and the Senate of the experience of officers who have served for a considerable time in their respective places. It is the less necessary to adopt this rule, because we have the power at any moment, by a resolution, to dismiss any one of these officers who may act improperly, and supply his place by the election of another. These are my views. If there be any good reason for the change, for the restoration of what was found inconvenient, I shall listen to it with pleasure. As at present advised, I am decidedly opposed to the resolution.

I am

Mr. BRIGHT. I have offered this resolution without being at all influenced by the consideration who are now, or may hereafter be the officers of this body. The tenure by which these subordinate offices are now held establishes a principle anti-republican in its character, and calling for such change as harmonizes with the elective franchise generally. I do not wish to be understood as stiking at the present incumbents, or as seeking to revive the old rule in order to displace any particular one of them. If I am so understood, I am misunderstood. It is the tenure by which they hold, it is the principle involved, that I am striking at.

A reference to the Journals of the Senate shows, that at the first session of the Twenty-first Congress (rule 49) was passed, which rule required that the officers of this body should be elected in the manner prescribed in the resolution under consideration. At the close of the Thirtieth Congress, an honorable Senator from Missouri, no longer a member of this body, (Colonel Benton,) moved a resolution, which was adopted, repealing the 49th rule, thus continuing the present incumbents without limitation. Had my attention been called to this subject then, I should have opposed the measure. Thus the matter has rested until this time, many of us admitting that it is a very antidemocratic feature in our organization, and one that ought to be corrected, but all agreeing the task of undertaking it would be a most thankless

one, and in all probability result in the mover incurring the displeasure of those now in place. But be this as it may, and as much as I would regret to have the performance of that which I regarded as a public duty lead to such a result, I cannot be deterred by any such consideration from acting and speaking out.

Mr. President, I have never heard any satisfactory reason given for abrogating the 49th rule. It is said that Senators relieve themselves from the disagreeable necessity of saying yes or no to applicants who present their names for our consideration in connection with these offices; that it is a full and satisfactory answer to all our constituents who seek these lucrative offices, to say, Sir, we have disposed of them during the lifetime of the present incumbents, and therefore it is unnecessary for me to waste time discussing the merits of your claims, &c. Now permit me to say this is all wrong. These, like other places of public employment, should be left open for disposal at stated periods, thus enabling the incoming Senators at the opening of each Congress to aid in making a choice of the officers of the body in which they are to serve, and giving every good citizen an opportunity of sharing in whatever of honor or profit belongs to such stations. I do not mean by what I have said to be understood as advocating the principle of rotation in office. Where we obtain the services of gentlemen possessing peculiar qualification for the offices they are chosen to, and the public service would be promoted by their continuance, I would say, continue them; but continue them according to the forms and usages of a popular government, and hot during good behavior, as it is called, which is nothing less than the grant of a life-estate.

Mr. SHIELDS. I regret that I shall be under the necessity of voting against any change in this rule. I regret to differ from my learned friend from Indiana; but I shall not vote for any change at this time. I do not want to see the Senate at this session, at all events, turned into a kind of electioneering hall. I think it is exceed ingly imprudent, let me tell my honorable friend from Indiana, to introduce this subject at this session. After the general election, and after we have ascertained the result of that election, we may commence a general disturbing of officers everywhere. But I think this is a very bad time for the Democrats to commence to disturb the Senate. For one, I shall not do it just now. I am not prepared for it. It seems this aims at a general revolution. I perhaps might unite with the gentleman if he should introduce a resolution to remove a particular officer. Perhaps I might; but I do not know that I should. If that be the object, I should like to see it come in that way. I say again, I hope the gentleman will reflect that this is not a very auspicious time to commence a thing of this kind in the Senate.

Mr. BERRIEN. It was the concluding remark of the Senator from Indiana [Mr. BRIGHT] which announced to me the principle which actuated him in bringing up this resolution. Up to that time I had not understood what that principle was. Now I submit to the honorable Senator, that there is no such principle involved in the present practice of the Senate. The principle to which he objects is, that any officer under our institutions should have his office as a life estate. There is no life estate in the ministerial offices of the Senate. You can, by a resolution, remove the incumbents at once. They hold their offices at the pleasure of the Senate. They are the occupants of their places at our will. Certainly, if there be any misconduct on the part of any officer, a resolution for his removal would induce an inquiry. He would be furnished with the means of answering any allegations made against him. But by this process, if it is intended to affect the actual incumbents, they are to be deprived of their offices and condemned unheard. They are to be removed, divested of their present tenure of office, and depend upon their capacities to obtain the votes of Senators to be restored. I take it for granted that though these officers hold their places at our will, yet the Senate is a body holding itself responsible to the country for acting upon principles of equity and justice, and no officer should be removed who faithfully discharges his duty. If there be a single individual now in the employ of the Senate who has failed in the discharge of his duty, I will cheerfully unite with any Senator in his removal upon proper evidence.

But I reiterate what has been affirmed by the Senator from Illinois, that it really does look like canvassing for the offices.

Mr. HALE. I have endeavored, in my humble sphere, to move consistently. I have usually looked out for the privates. I understand this resolution aimed at the privates. If it is insisted upon I albe compelled to move to insert the Presiding Officer of this body at the head of the list of those icers to be elected. I am not willing to begin the bottom. I want to begin at the head of the chapter. I shall vote against the resolution; but if it is pressed I shall move my amendment. I need not say to you, Mr. President, nor to any member of this body, that I am influenced only by a desire to carry out a great principle. I think if that ciple applies to one it should apply to all. Mr. BRIGHT. The honorable Senator from Georgia, [Mr. BERRIEN,] and the honorable Senar from Illinois, [Mr. SHIELDS,] reason upon this subject as though I were striking at particular offiers of this body. I have announced that I did not seek or desire a change of the rule in order to reach any particular officer. If either of those Senators suppose that I am striking at a particular

officer he is mistaken.

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Mr. BERRIEN. Will the Senator allow me

So the resolution was rejected.

Mr. ATCHISON. I now move to reconsider the vote on the resolution; and I move that that

organization. When the Senate commenced its
proceedings, it appointed its officers according to
the nature of its own constitution, and not accord-
ing to the constitution of the other House of Con-motion lie on the table. I am not altogether satis-
gress, and so it proceeded for many years.

fied with the vote which I gave. I wish further time for consideration. Therefore I move to reconsider the vote, and ask that that motion lie on the table. If it is laid on the table, I presume it can be taken up at any time a majority of the Senate think proper.

Mr. DOUGLAS. If I understand the matter, the effect of laying on the table of the motion to reconsider will be to clinch the matter against the power of reconsideration. The universal practice in the House of Representatives is, that after a measure is passed, a motion is made by some of its friends to reconsider it, and to lay that motion on the table, which, if agreed to, prevents the body touching the question again.

The PRESIDENT. The Chair does not consider that to be the effect of the adoption of the motion.

Mr. HALE. The practice referred to by the Senator from Illinois, is because in the other House it requires a two thirds vote to take any subject from the table. Here it only requires a majority. Mr. DAWSON. If I understand the rule, nottable, any Senator may, to-morrow, move to change the rules of this body to-morrow. We cannot be precluded by any motion of this kind from any exercise of any power belonging to the body.

But I do not wish to pursue inquiries of that kind, but would suggest to the Senate this consideration: The rule which it is now sought to reinstate, had existed for a number of years. During the last Congress a Senator from Missouri, not now a member of this body, [Mr. BENTON,] offered a resolution to rescind the rule, and return to what had been the practice of this body from the beginning. We all recollect when that resolution was introduced, that it was adopted by the unanimous consent of this body. Not one word was said against it. What is the inference? We must suppose, as no one objected, that all were in favor of it. If everybody was in favor of it then, permit me to inquire why it is that any should have changed their opinions since? If it was proper to restore the practice of the Senate, when Mr. Benton was a member of this body, what has happened since, what facts have been developed, what discoveries made, what secrets transpired, which should lead us now to wish to undo what was then done by the unanimous consent of the unenviable position before the country, if we adopt this resolution. When Mr. Benton proposed the Mr. BRIGHT. I said, when first up, that my restoration of the old practice, no man opened his object was to reinstate a rule that had been over mouth against it, and yet now we are told that a twenty years in operation, and one that is in uni-high principle requires the adoption of this resoluson and harmony with the principles of the Gov- tion. It must be inferred, then, that what was ernment under which we legislate. done commanded unanimous consent, because at that time either all of us were so ignorant that we could not discover the great principle involved, or all so timid that none of us objected to his proposition. I hope the resolution will not be adopted. Mr. DOUGLAS. I shall vote for the resolution of the Senator from Indiana. I believe the principle involved is a sound one, and that the practice to which it tends is equally sound. I regard the present rule as substantially establishing the principle of life offices. I shall vote for the resolution without any reference to who are to fill the offices, or whether there shall be any change in them or not. That will be a question to be determined afterwards. But I do believe that the true principle is to have a fixed time at which the office is to expire and an election to be gone into; and in order to establish that, I shall vote for the resolution.

ain? I have not made the slightest sug- body? It seems to me that we shall occupy a very withstanding you may lay this motion on the

that he was acting through any such motive. I know he is not.

I cannot refrain from expressing my surprise at the opposition of the honorable Senator from IlliBis, (Mr. SHIELDS.] I had every reason to suppase that the principle sought to be established by this resolution, would have found an advocate in him; but instead thereof, he seeks rather to weaken my proposition, by alleging that my motion is an imprudent one, and not altogether well-timed. I am at a loss how to interpret the language of the honorable Senator. Certainly there is nothing very imprudent in asking the Senate to declare that hereafter they will elect their officers every two years, thus abrogating the law of life estates in fees of this body. Certainly it is not illtimed bere or anywhere else, under a republican form of government, to advocate and declare in favor of so sound a political principle as the one sought to be established by this resolution. view of the political changes in this Government, and the party proscription that has characterized the present Administration, I think there is something due our political friends wherever we have the power; and if the present incumbents are deserving the support of the party in the ascendant here, they have nothing to fear from the reinstate

ment of the old rule.

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I have offered the resolution because I believe it right. I defend it because of my determination to permit no pressure from any quarter to influence my political action, and if voted down now shall renew it whenever parliamentary order permits. A word in reply to the motion and speech of the honorable Senator from New Hampshire, [Mr. HALE. He moves to include the President" tempore" in the list of officers to be elected. I will venture to advise him to bring up that as an independent proposition. It is not germane to the question before the Senate. That officer is chosen under a constitutional enactment, and the tenure of his office dependent on something higher than mere rule of the Senate. I hope he will not persist in his motion to amend, but allow us to vote

on the resolution as it is. Mr. BADGER. The honorable Senator from Indiana [Mr. BRIGHT] seems disposed to get back to former usages again: to stand super antiquas rizs of the Senate. So do I; and I suppose that the rule of the Senate, as it now exists, is that very me rule under which the Senate was originally rganized. I agree with the honorable Senator, that it is perfectly proper that every legislative body, at its organization, should choose its own ters. But will he tell me when the Senate has rer been organized since the first Senate met? When has there ceased to be a Senate? At what period did a new Senate commence? At what moment in the past history of this body was it without an organization? Sir, under the Constitution, ao such a thing takes place in this body as a new

With regard to the suggestion of the Senator
from North Carolina, I could not see that there
was much force in it. I presume that the reason
why there was no opposition made to the motion
of the Senator from Missouri alluded to, was that
it came up in the morning business, when it was
not known what was the pending question. If
I had known of it, I should not have voted for it;
and the same I believe to be true with regard to
the Senator from Indiana also. But whether that
be so or not, is a matter of no consequence. The

question is, What is the true practice of the Senate
as regards this question? Believing that the
sound practice is to have a fixed term of office, at
the expiration of which a new election is to take
place, I shall vote for the resolution.

Mr. BUTLER. I will add one word to what
has been said by my friend from North Carolina,
[Mr. BADGER.] I regard these officers as holding
their places by a tenure at our pleasure, and also
as holding them during good behavior. I say
that the subordinate officers of this Senate should
not be removed so long as they discharge their
duties properly. That is my opinion. I differ
from my friend from Indiana [Mr. BRIGHT] en-
tirely, in saying that offices of this kind should
be made the subject of contention and strife. An
officer, like our Secretary and those who are
associated with him, should be almost as stationary

as the records. I like to have them associated to

gether. I shall therefore vote against the resolu

tion.

The yeas and nays being taken on the propo-
sition, resulted-yeas 20, nays 24; as follows:

YEAS-Messrs. Bradbury, Bright, Brodhead, Cass,
Chase, Dodge of Wisconsin, Dodge of Iowa, Douglas,
Downs, Felch, Foote of Mississippi, Gwin, Hamlin, Hun-
ter, James, Jones of Iowa, Norris, Sumner, Walker, and
Whitcomb-20.

NAYS-Messrs. Atchison, Badger, Berrien, Borland,
Butler, Clarke, Davis, Dawson, Fish, Foot of Vermont,
Geyer, Hale, Miller, Morton, Pearce, Pratt, Rhett, Seward,
Shields, Smith, Spruance, Stockton, Upham, and Wade

-24.

Mr. BRIGHT. The object of the honorable Senator from Missouri is, I suppose, to reach the subject at a subsequent period of the session. If the process of repentance has already commenced in his mind, I hope it may continue until it shall reach that point that a sense of justice will permit him to support the proposition. I hope that a reconsideration will take place at some future day, and that the rule will be reinstated. I shall vote with the honorable Senator under that impression. The motion to lay the motion to reconsider on the table was agreed to.

ELECTION OF CHAPLAIN.

On the motion of Mr. HALE, the Senate proceeded to the election of a Chaplain.

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The PRESIDENT announced that forty-five
ballots had been cast, of which number twenty-
three was necessary to a choice; of which—
Rev C. M. Butler received... . .
Rev. Mr. Gallagher..
Rev. Dr. Junkin..
Rev. R. R. Gurley.
Rev. C. W. Rodier.

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The Rev. C. M. BUTLER was declared to be duly elected Chaplain of the Senate for the present session.

RECEPTION OF KOSSUTH.

The Senate proceeded to the consideration of the special order, being the resolution submitted by Mr. SEWARD, in these words:

Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States in Congress assembled, That the Congress of the United States, in the name and in behalf of the people of the United States, give to Louis Kossuth a cordial welcome to the capital and to the country; and that a copy of this resolution be transmitted to him by the Presdent of the United States.

When the resolution was under consideration yesterday,

Mr. FOOTE, of Mississippi, said: I regret exceedingly to feel constrained to say something more in defence of myself and in explanation of the attitude which I occupy in connection with this truly delicate and painful affair. But several remarks have fallen this morning from the lips of the honorable Senator from Alabama [Mr. CLEMENS] which compel me to throw myself again upon the indulgence of the Senate for a few minutes, whilst I endeavor to shield myself against that reprehension to which it is most apparent must stand exposed should I remain silent under the strictures to which I have been so unexpectedly, and I will add so undeservedly, subjected. Sir, it is most true that I am the author of the resolution which has been read in our hearing this morning by the honorable Senator from Alabama, under the authority of which the illustrious champion of Hungarian freedom and independence was invited to our hospitable shores, and made for

none at my hands. His fame fills the civilized
world, and his name has become a terror to
tyrants throughout Christendom. Indeed, I could
not, perhaps, declare all the admiration which I

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Sir, I subscribe heartily to every word and sentiment of this noble paragraph. Is it true, Mr. President-I hope that no gentleman upon the Whig side of the Chamber at least will be inclined to dispute it-that in Mr. Webster's "intel'lectual and prudential character are so felicitously adjusted the antagonisms of conservatism and prog'ress, institution and reform, liberty and law, the highest freedom compatible with the scheme of 'actual things on the one hand, and on the other, 'order, obedience, the sacredness of society, of property, and the rights of labor?" Was it Mr. Webster "who settled the boundary question with England by his sense and temper, and put an end 'forever to the possibility of impressing a sailor

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qualities, without giving rise perchance to some
suspicion that I was about to become the special
supporter and advocate of his claims to higher
official honors than he has yet enjoyed. Not being
willing to incur the risk of an imputation which
might embarrass my existing relations with the
members of that great political party with which
I have long had the honor of holding a firm and
affectionate alliance, (relations, too, which no man
could value more highly than I do;) and not
feeling authorized, as a member of the Union party
of my own beloved State, at present absolutely
to commit myself in regard to the complex ques-
tion of who shall be elected President in 1852-I
shall, without saying more in praise of New Eng-from under the stars and stripes, by his spirit and
land's gifted son myself, bring forward a witness
in his behalf whose eloquent voice has been often
heard in this grand Hall of national consultation,
and whose manly advocacy of the Constitution
and laws of the Union during that fearful struggle
which, I hope, is now drawing to a close, will
command for his winged words of fervent energy
a more than patient hearing from those whom I
behold before me and around me upon this grave
occasion. Mr. Choate, the other day, in Faneuil
Hall, spoke thus of Mr. Webster, in connection
with the uncertain and tumultuous condition of
the general affairs of the world at the present

moment:

"How unsettled is that world, what clouds and darkness rests on its future of the next four years, you all appreciate. It seems as if the prerogatives of thrones, and the rights of man, and the hoarded up revenges and griefs of centuries, were unsheathing for a conflict, in which, as in the apocaliptic vision, blood shall flow to the bridles of the horses; in which the clock of time shall be found to have struck another hour; in which one age of the race shall pass away forever; in which society itself is to be tried by fire and steel, whether it be of nature and of God, or no.

"In such a conflict have we nothing to fear? Has not the whole expanse of the Atlantic, since Washington put forth his proclamation of neutrality, not the least of his titles to a pure as well as brilliant fame, has it not contracted, as it were, to a hand's breadth? That same cross sea, that confluence of all winds and waves, through which the great pilot scarcely steered the ship of state, is there no danger that this, that worse than this, will strain our fastenings and rend away our sails, and carry our masts by the board? Shall any seamanship but the highest hold the helm in such a prospect?

a season the guest of the nation. It is equally true
that at the time of the adoption of this resolution
this renowned personage was a prisoner in charge
of the Turkish Government, and that the main
object which I had in view in urging the adop-feel for this gentleman's high powers and gracious
tion of the resolution was to procure the liberation
of Kossuth and his companions in captivity, and
to secure to them a permanent asylum in this
country, where the liberty of which they had been
cruelly despoiled in their native hemisphere might
be restored to them once more. It is also true,
sir, that this resolution did not at all contemplate
the least indelicate or intrusive intermeddling on
the part of the Government of the United States
with the affairs of continental Europe. It never en-
tered into my head for a moment that this move-
ment could in the least degree embarrass or com-
promise our international relations, or commit this
Republic to the multiplied hazards of a bloody
and exhausting war with the despotic powers of
the Old World. I expected Governor Kossuth
and his associates in imprisonment to be brought
in one of our national vessels across the Atlantic,
and to be allowed to become participants with
ourselves in the multiplied blessings which a
bounteous Providence has vouchsafed to the hap-
py millions who inhabit this fair land. Our reso-
lution did express sympathy for those in behalf
of whom it was drawn up and presented for the
consideration of the two Houses of Congress;
but it did not express more sympathy, I am sure,
than was felt by the whole body of our citizens,
and was but faintly typical of that extraordinary
outburst of affectionate regard and admiration
with which this remarkable man is destined to
be received in every part of our wide-spread Re-
public that may hereafter be honored with his
presence. I have already stated once or twice,
and I will again state, that I did not originate
the resolution introduced by me in the begin-
ning of our present session, and afterwards with-
drawn because of the vehement opposition which
I saw it was to encounter here, for the sake
of gaining a little additional notoriety, or even be-
cause I had myself come to the conclusion that
any particular form of reception by Congress was
indispensably necessary. Indeed, I should never
have connected myself with the affair at all, but for
the fact that the gentleman who discharges with
such marked ability the duties of Secretary of
State at the present time did me the honor of call-
ing my attention to the subject a day or two before
the commencement of our session, and urged upon
me the propriety of bringing forward a joint reso-
lution providing for the reception of Governor
Kossuth by the two Houses of Congress. Sir, it
is not as a political ally that I refer to Mr. Web-
ster at present, and surely not in the spirit of
mere partisan opposition. The occasion is one, in
my judgment, far above all mere party or personal
considerations. But censured and carped as I am
in consequence of the part which I have thought
proper to act, under monitions from so high a
quarter, I will say, that no one who knows the
Secretary of State, and is familiar with the attri-
butes which adorn his character as a public man,
can suppose it possible that he could have coun-
selled a movement calculated in the least degree to
compromise our international relations. When I
first proposed to the Senate the resolution offered
by me, I distinctly stated the fact, that I acted under
the advice of the Secretary of State, and that his
name was mentioned in connection with this move-
ment with the knowledge and consent of that gen-
leman himself. Now, sir, this is no fitting time or
place for the delivery of a personal eulogy upon the
accomplished statesman, jurist, and orator, to
whose special promptings I have thought it not
improper for me to yield, touching a transaction,
all the bearings of which, whether domestic or
foreign, I could not doubt his capacity fairly to
appreciate; especially did I deem it discreet to
conform my action to his counsels upon this very
delicate subject, in consideration of the fact that
he was discharging the functions of a high office
under the Government, the incumbency of which
necessarily enabled him to take a more extended
view than any other man of all our international
relations, and qualified him, above all men living,
to determine as to the precise mode in which the
various Departments of the Government should
receive the distinguished guest of the nation at the
nation's capital. Sir, I have said that I should
deliver no eulogy on Mr. Webster. He needs

"Who does not see how difficult and delicate a part the New World may have to act? To observe neutrality steadfast and impartial, yet maintain our rank and fulfill our mission as the successful Republic, whose sound has gone into all nations; to keep peace in this war of giants, if such there shall be, yet so to cause our light to shine before all men, that all, seeing with what felicity, with what glory the people may rule themselves, may be stimulated to pass on the torch of liberty, till its radiant round encircles the world; to mete out public sympathy in time and measure, yet hold unbroken every tittle of the public code to which the repose of the world is intrusted? Such, so hard to reconcile, may be the trials of the next four years.

"To steer our course, not between Scylla and Charyb

dis, but across a whole archipelago of rocks, seen and un-
seen, who shall be our pilot? Who of our statesmen in
circumstances more perplexing than those of the adminis-
tration of Washington may win a second time such praise,
such envy as he extorted from all the world, even from the
very belligerents who could not, or would not, adopt the
wisdom of his policy? Does our partiality deceive us? or
is it he, in whose intellectual and prudential character are
so felicitously adjusted the antagonisms of conservatism
and progress, institution and reform, liberty and law, the
highest freedom compatible with the scheme of actual
things on the one hand, and on the other, order, obedience,
the sacredness of society, of property, and the rights of labor;
who settled the boundary quarrel with England by his
sense and temper, and put an end forever to the possibility
of impressing a sailor from under the stars and stripes, by
his spirit and argument; who rebuked the insolence of
Austria, and will give the right hand of a nation's fellow-
ship to Kossuth-yet raise no casus belli on which Haps-
burg or the Czar could stand for a moment in the forum of
States? Does our partiality deceive us, or is he the pilot
for such a night on this sea?"

Mr. President, I agree perfectly with this dis-
tinguished gentleman, that we have both "a deli-
cate and difficult part" to act as a nation at
the present time. I admit most freely that it is
our true policy, and not less our high moral duty,
"to observe neutrality steadfast and impartial, yet

'maintain our rank and fulfill our mission as the
'successful Republic, whose sound has gone into
all nations; to keep pace in this war of giants,
if such there shall be, yet so to cause our light to
shine before all men, that all, seeing with what
· felicity, with what glory, the people may rule
'themselves, may be stimulated to pass on the
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'argument; who rebuked the insolence of Austria, 'and will give the right hand of a nation's fellowship to Kossuth-yet raise no casus belli on which Hapsburg or the Czar could stand for a moment in the forum of States?" I repeat the question emphatically, Mr. President, (and in asking I turn to the Whig side of the House,) Is Mr. Webster deserving of all these commendations, and did I yet act indiscreetly in acting upon his advice? Is the Secretary of State in fact to extend the right hand of a nation's fellowship to Kossuth?"—yet are we censurable for simply urging upon Congress the propriety of according to him an affectionate national welcome?

Mr. President, I shall have more to say of Mr. Webster (nothing, surely, in a spirit of unkindness or disrespect) towards the close of these desultory remarks, when I shall undertake to show, by evidence of a nature not to be successfully opposed, that many years since this gentleman, in a well-considered and most masterly speech, gave expression to what I have ever deemed the true American doctrine, in regard to the policy of this Government towards the despotic Powers of Europe, touching the right claimed by them of intervening forcibly in the domestic affairs of nations rightfully as independent in all respects as themselves, in order to suppress movements therein tending to the establishment offree institutions. Ishall lay certain portions of the speech of this gentleman upon the Greek question, delivered during the administration of Mr. Monroe, before the Senate, and I expect to satisfy every dispassionate mind present, that even in the year 1823, language was held by one of the most conservative statesmen that this country has at any time produced, assuming as high and, as I think, even higher and bolder ground, in regard to the rights and duties of this Government to interpose, in a discreet and becoming manner, for the purpose of preventing the armed intervention of Russia, Prussia, and other Powers, for the suppression of the rising spirit of freedom in continental Europe. When I read these extracts, with a view to historic elucidation merely, I hope not to be accused of having in view the promotion of any public man whatever to Executive honors in 1852. With the presidential contest, now almost at hand, I expect to have no very close connection, and İ shall do nothing in the progress of it whatever that I may not think necessary to the great Union cause, to which, for the present, I am specially devoted.

I shall proceed to make, at this time, some additional remarks in reply to the honorable Senator from Alabama, to whose speech on this occasion I listened with a chagrin difficult to be expressed. Sir, I will say nothing disrespectful of that gentleman. I could not do so without greatly wronging that sincere friendship and esteem which I cherish for him. Surely, sir, my friend from Alabama could not have dispassionately examined the delicate and interesting question before us anterior to his launching so boldly upon the ocean of controversy. The honorable gentleman seems to have formed a highly unfavorable opinion of the public character of the great Magyar chieftain, and has indulged in various remarks of a nature decidedly unkind and derogatory. has read to us, too, sir, copious extracts from the columns of a newspaper which he held in his hands, most bitterly aspersive of the motives and conduct of this persecuted patriot. Whilst the honorable gentleman was thus entertaining us,

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I ventured to inquire of him the name of the newspaper thus specially honored, and was anwered, as I expected to be, that it was the New York Courier and Enquirer. Sir, I had read in the same paper everything brought to our notice this morning by the honorable gentleman, and I had also read more than one overwhelming refutation of every slanderous allegation which this Thersites of the American press had dared to fahminate against the exalted object of his fiendsh hostility. I shall not go into details on this head at present. It would be useless to do so; but I venture to asseverate, that there is not ene criminatory accusation that James Watson Webb has presumed to publish against Governor Kossuth which has not been so effectually disproved, in other newspapers of New York, and by the adduction of testimony the authenticity of which no man of standing will dispute, as to cover the author of these heartless calumnies with the most lasting contempt. Does the honorable Senator from Alabama 'know who this James Watson Webb is? Why, this is the renowned personage who left the shores of America, early in the administration of General Taylor, under very peculiar circumstances, as Charge to Vienna; and whose nomination was rejected by an indignant Senate with indications of scorn, such as have never been known to mark any similar transaction in our annals. Rumor says that only seven Senators could be induced to vote for his confirmation. I shall not undertake to trace out the history of this personage as the habitual promulgator of printed scandal, and as a mercenary and timeserving political parasite. It is, in my judgment, by no means to be regretted that Kossuth has escaped the laudations of the New York Courier and Enquirer. The exorbitant and unblushing|| ealogist of the bloody house of Hapsburg cannot but hate, with all the demoniac intensity of an eval nature, the man whose resplendent virtues and high achievements have caused him to be recognazed throughout the world as peculiarly and preeatly qualified for the high part which Louis Kossuth is evidently destined to enact on the theatre of continental Europe, as the heroic avenger of long-suppressed freedom, and the chastiser of earth's haughtiest and most heartless tyrants.

Today Mr. FooTE continued:

Mr. President, I was not less surprised than mortified when I heard from the lips of the Senator from Alabama, the same erroneous views of the character of the Hungarian struggle, and of the conduct of Kossuth in connection therewith. If the honorable gentleman had taken pains to inform himself somewhat better in regard to the historic topics which he has discussed this morning with so much spirit, he would have been able to avoid the multiplied errors which he has committed, and the gross injustice which he has unwittingly done to

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hither, in part at least, in one of our national ves-
sels, dispatched to the coast of Asia for the pur-
pose of bringing this distinguished exile into our
midst. He is in America, in some capacity or an-
other, and at our invitation. This country has not
yet been chosen as his permanent home, and we
all know that he has long since explicitly announced
his intention to return in a few weeks to Europe.

NEW SERIES....No. 5.

I confess that I cannot understand how he can be
otherwise than regarded as our guest, towards
whom we are bound, in every form, to exercise
the rites of a cordial hospitality. The gentleman
says that inasmuch as the resolution inviting him ||
hither describes him as a person supposed by us to
be desirous of emigrating and settling permanently
among us, and, inasmuch as he has now conclu-
ded not to abandon his own country permanently,
he is not at all entitled to be considered "the guest
of the nation." Well, sir, it does seem to me that
the honorable gentleman's philological explana-in itself, and not less important to us than to other
tions are of a most unsatisfactory character, and
such as hardly demand more than the passing
notice already bestowed upon them.

The Senator from Alabama is greatly dissatisfied with the language employed by Governor Kossuth on several occasions since his arrival in this country, and especially with his reply to the Philadelphia committee. The gentleman says:

"When the news reached Governor Kossuth that the resolution introduced by the Senator from Mississippi had been withdrawn, he saw proper to become highly offended, and assumed to deliver a lecture upon the conduct of Congress."

Sir, I have seen no such lecture; I have seen no proof of Governor Kossuth's becoming offended with the action of Congress at all; nor, in my judgment, did the printed extract read from Governor Kossuth's reported address to the Philadelphia committee at all warrant the description now given of it by the honorable gentleman. He expressed his regret simply, in decorous and respectful language, that Congress had hesitated about according him a national reception, and added:

"Had I known that in the same place, where I was invi

ted to this country by an act of Congress, the same body
would now decline to bid me a welcome, I would have
thought that I was not a welcome guest."

Why, sir, surely if Congress should refuse to
bid him welcome, he could not do otherwise than
come to the conclusion that he was not welcome.
If we refuse to welcome him, will he be welcomed
by us? And if thus refused a welcome, will he
have a right still to regard himself as welcome?
He ventures to add, that had he anticipated this
refusal of welcome, he "would not have wished to
intrude." Certainly, sir, this language is exceed-
ingly proper and not at all disrespectful in its
character. What gentleman in the world would
wish to intrude under the circumstances stated?

Again: the gentleman insists that the intention of Kossuth is to involve us in European war. I

Kossuth and his Hungarian associates. I can hope not, sir; and I must confess that I have seen

assure the gentleman that, when he shall hereafter have leisure for a more thorough exploration of the subject, he will discover with some surprise the grievous extent to which he has been misled by the ingenious fabrications to which he seems to have yielded the most implicit credence. If it should turn out in the progress of the debate to be at all necessary to bring forward here authentic evidence in refutation of the slanderous statements of the New York Courier and Enquirer, and no other Senator should find it convenient to do so, I may be tempted to assume the performance of this task. For the present I shall decline it, and proceed to notice several remarks, which fell from the honorable Senator in regard to the circumstances connected with the coming of Kossuth to this country, and his conduct since he arrived upon our shores. The honorable gentleman denies that Kossuth is the guest of the nation, and contends that the language of the original joint resolution inviting him to this country, affords conclusive proof in refutation of this notion. This, it really seems to me, is a very strange position. The gentleman will not, surely, deny that the resolution did invite him to our shores, and that he is now here in accordance with that invitation, and brought

not the least evidence yet of his entertaining any
such intention. He has certainly, on many occa-
sions, most explicitly disavowed any such design;
and I hold in my hand a New York newspaper,
in which is published an authorized declaration
from him, which reads as follows:

"The impression having gone out through some of the
public journals, that the purpose of Governor Kossuth aims
at a forcible intervention in foreign affairs, we take leave to
say, on authority, that such is not the fact. He asks sim-
ply that England and America shall unite in affirming the
policy that every nation shall have the right to make and
alter its political institutions to suit its own condition and
convenience,' and that the two nations (England and
America) shall not only respect, but cause to be respected,
this doctrine, so as to prevent Russia from again marching
her armies into Hungary. He holds that there is a wide
difference between a resolute attitude, powerful enough to
prevent interference, and the going to war to repulse an in-
tervention already commenced. Governor Kossuth has
not intended to suggest that America should copy the exam-
ple of France during our Revolution, according to the let-
ter, but according to the spirit. The circumstances are
widely different, and all that can be hoped is, that a great
and free country like this should act in behalf of Freedom
according to the time and the circumstances in which it is
placed."

I am not prepared at this moment to express my views in regard to the true policy of this country at the present moment upon the delicate

question herein referred to. That question, as has been repeatedly shown, does not at all arise upon this simple resolution of welcome, and I protest against this hasty and extemporaneous decision of a great question of national policy, which is entitled to a calm and extended examination at our hands, in all its grave and momentous bearings, and concerning which the ablest and most experienced statesmen of the Republic might well differ. Certain it is, that there are very distinguished gentlemen in this country who have avowed the opinion that a discreet and enlightened regard to our own safety and honor, as one of the independent nations of the earth, requires that we should, in some form or other, assert at this time, the acknowledged principle of international law, that "every nation shall have the right to make and alter its political institutions to suit its own condition and convenience. "This principle is one of the utmost value civilized nations; and it is undeniably true that movements have occurred within the last year or two, of a nature to call the validity of this principle into serious question, and which, if not in some way checked, must eventually subvert it forever. Sir, the views so forcibly presented by Governor Kossuth touching this point, are not now declared for the first time in this country. They have been long ago declared by some of our ables and most conservative statesmen in the two Houses of Congress, in language of wonderful force and clearness, without, I believe, calling forth disapproval in any quarter. In proof of this, I beg leave to read in hearing of the Senate the extracts from the speech of the present Secretary of State, [Mr. WEBSTER,] upon the Greek question, in the year 1823, to which I

referred in the beginning of these remarks. I shall not, on this occasion, declare my own entire sanction of the doctrines then asserted by Mr. Webster. Still less will I take it upon myself to denounce or to censure them; but I venture to assert, that Kossuth has neither gone further, nor is likely hereafter to go further, than did Mr. Webster during the calm and peaceful administration of Mr. Monroe, in asserting the policy of this country touching the attempts of the Allied Powers of Europe to intervene for the purpose of putting down republican governments newly springing into existence on that continent. It is thus that Mr. Webster expressed himself more than twentyfive years ago:

"I might well, Mr. Chairman, avoid the responsibility of this measure, if it had, in my judgment, any tendency to change the policy of the country. With the general course of that policy I am quite satisfied. The nation is prosperous, peaceful, and happy; and I should very reluctantly put its peace, prosperity, or happiness at risk. It appears to me, however, that this resolution is strictly conformable to our general policy, and not only consistent with our interests, but even demanded by a large and liberal view of those interests."

Again he says:

"It cannot be denied that the great political question of this age, is, that between absolute and regulated governments. The substance of the controversy is, wheher society shall have any part in its own government. Whether the form of government shall be that of limited monarchy, with more or less mixture of hereditary power, or wholly elective, or representative, may perhaps be considered as subordinate. The main controversy is between that absolute rule, which, while it promises to govern well, means nevertheless to govern without control, and that regulated or constitutional system, which restrains sovereign discretion, and asserts that society may claim, as matter of right, some effective power in the establishment of the laws which are to regulate it. The spirit of the time sets with a most powerful current in favor of these last-mentioned opinions. It is opposed, however, whenever and wherever it shows itself, by certain of the great potentates of Europe; and it is opposed on grounds as applicable in one civilized nation as in another, and which would justify such opposition in relation to the United States, as well as in relation to any other State, or nation, if time and circumstance should render such opposition expedient.

"What part it becomes this country to take on a question of this sort, so far as it is called upon to take any part, cannot be doubtful. Our side of this question is settled for us even without our own volition. Our history, our situation, our character, necessarily decide our position and our course, before we have even time to ask whether we have an option. Our place is on the side of free institutions." Further on, he thus continues:

"I will now, Mr. Chairman, advert to those pretensions, put forth by the allied sovereigns of continental Europe, which seem to me calculated, if unresisted, to bring into

disrepute the principles of our Government, and indeed, to be wholly incompatible with any degree of national independence. I do not introduce these considerations for the sake of topics. I am not about to declaim against crowned heads, nor to quarrel with any country for preferring a form of government different from our own. The choice that we exercise for ourselves I am quite willing to leave also to others, but it appears to me that the pretensions of which I have spoken are wholly inconsistent with the independ ence of nations generally, without regard to the question whether their governments be absolute, monarchical, and limited, or purely popular and representative. I have a most deep and thorough conviction that a new era has risen in the world, that new and dangerous combinations are taking place, promulgating doctrines and fraught with consequences wholly subversive in their tendency, of the public law of nations, and of the general liberties of mankind. Whether this be so or not, is the question which I now propose to examine, upon such grounds of information as the common and public incans of knowledge disclose."

Mr. Webster then proceeds to examine, and to comment with great freedom and boldness upon various public documents, bearing evidence of the formal combination which had been entered into by the despotic Powers of Europe against free institutions, and gives expression to the following generous sentiments:

"But the second, and, if possible, the still more objec tionable principle, avowed in these papers, is the right of forcible interference in the affairs of other States. A right to control nations in their desire to change their own government, wherever it may be conjectured, or pretended, that such change might furnish an example to the subjects of other States, is plainly and distinctly asserted. The same Congress that made the declaration at Laybach, had declared, before its removal from Troppau, that the Pow'ers have an undoubted right to take a hostile attitude in ' regard to those States in which the overthrow of the gov 'ernment may operate as an example.'

"There cannot, as I think, be conceived a more flagrant violation of public law, or national independence, than is contained in this declaration.

"No matter what be the character of the government resisted; no matter with what weight the foot of the oppressor bears on the neck of the oppressed; if he struggle, or if he complain, he sets a dangerous example of resistanceand from that moment he becomes an object of hostility to the most powerful potentates on the earth. I want words to express my abhorrence of this abominable principle."

But, Mr. President, it seems that we are now urged by certain honorable Senators to be exceedingly cautious how we receive Kossuth, or hazard a declaration of opinions which may by possibility give offence to the Emperor of Russia. We are urged to do nothing that can possibly have the effect of wounding his delicate sensibilities. Well, sir, if I thought that the language of manly indignation uttered by members of this body could awaken the least remorse or mortification in the ice-bound bosom of this potential personage, and constrain him, for a single moment, to open the portals of his iron heart to the throbbings of a genial sympathy towards the millions whom he has so cruelly oppressed, and the hundreds of thousands whom he has so ruthlessly slaughtered in Hungary and in Poland, I should even be willing to continue this debate a day or two longer, as fatiguing and disagreeable as it has certainly become to those participating in it, and as offensive and disgusting as it has also become to the whole country. But to return to Mr. Webster's speech. He says, in relation to the principle of forcible intervention:

"I trust every enlightened man throughout the world will oppose it, and that especially, those who, like ourselves, are fortunately out of the reach of the bayonets that enforce it, will proclaim their detestation of it in a tone both loud and decisive. The avowed object of such declarations is to preserve the peace of the world. But by what means is it proposed to preserve this peace? Simply, by bringing the power of all governments to bear against all subjects. Here is to be established a sort of double, or treble, or quadruple, or, for aught I know, a quintuple allegiance. An offence against one king is to be an offence against all kings, and the power of all is, to be put forth for the pumishment of the offender. A tight to interfere in extreme cases, in the case of contiguous States, and where imminent danger is threatened to one by what is transpiring in another, is not without precedent in modern times, upon what has been called the law of vicinage; and when coufined to extreme cases, and limited to a certain extent, it may perhaps be defended upon principles of necessity and self-defence. But to maintain that sovereigns may go to war upon the subjects of another State to repress an example, is monstrous indeed. What is to be the limit of such a principle, or to the practice growing out of it? What, in any case, but sovereign pleasure is to decide whether the example be good or bad? And what, under the operation of such a rule, may be thought of our example? Why are we not as fair objects for the operation of the new principle, as any of those who may attempt to reform the condition of their Government, on the other side of the Atlantic?"

An extract or two more, and I am done:

"This asserted right of forcible intervention, in the affairs of other nations, is in open violation of the public

law of the world. Who has authorized these learned doctors of Troppau to establish new articles in this code? Whence are their diplomas? Is the whole world expected to acquiesce in principles which entirely subvert the independence of nations? On the basis of this independence

has been reared the beautiful fabric of international law. On the principle of this independence, Europe has seen a family of nations flourishing within its limits--the small among the large-protected not always by power, but by a principle above power-by a sense of propriety and justice. On this principle the great commonwealth of civilized States has been hitherto upheld. There have been occasional departures, or violations, and always disastrous, as in the case of Poland; but, in general, the harmony of the system has been wonderfully preserved. In the production and preservation of this sense of justice, this predominating principle, the Christian religion has acted a main part. Christianity and civilization have labored together; it seems, indeed, to be a law of our human condition, that they can live and flourish only together. From their blended influence has arisen that delightful spectacle of the preva lence of reason and principle, over power and interest, so well described by one who was an honor to the age

And sovereign Law, the world's collected will,
O'er thrones and globes elate,

Sits Empress-crowning good, repressing ill:
Smit by her sacred frown,

The fiend, Discretion, like a vapor, sinks,
And e'en the all-dazzling crown

Hides his faint rays, and at her bidding shrinks." But this vision is past. While the teachers of Laybach give the rule, there will be no law but the law of the strongest.

"It may now be required of me to show what interest we have, in resisting this new system. What is it to us, it may be asked, upon what principles, or what pretences, the European governments assert a right of interfering in the affairs of their neighbors? The thunder, it may be said, rolls at a distance. The wide Atlantic is between us and danger; and, however others may suffer, we shall remain safe.

"I think it a sufficient answer to this to say, that we are one of the nations; that we have an interest, therefore, in the preservation of that system of national law and national intercourse, which has heretofore subsisted, so bene

ficially for all. Our system of government, it should also be remembered, is, throughout, founded on principles utterly hostile to the new code; and, if we remain undisturbed by its operation, we shall owe our security either to our situation or our spirit. The enterprising character of the age, our own active commercial spirit, the great increase which has taken place in the intercourse between civilized and commercial States, have necessarily connected us with the nations of the earth, and given us a high concern in the preservation of those salutary principles, upon which that intercourse is founded. We have as clear an interest in international law, as individuals have in the laws of society.

"But, apart from the soundness of the policy, on the ground of direct interest, we have, sir, a duty connected with this subject, which, I trust, we are willing to perform. What do we not owe to the cause of civil and religious liberty? to the principle of lawful resistance? to the principle that society has a right to partake in its own government? As the leading Republic of the world, living and breathing in these principles, and advanced, by their operation, with unequalled rapidity in our career, shall we give our consent to bring them into disrepute and disgrace? It is neither ostentation nor boasting to say, that there lie before this country, in immediate prospect, a great extent and height of power. We are borne along towards this, without effort, and not always even with a full knowledge of the rapidity of our own motion. Circumstances, which never combined before, have combined in our favor, and a mighty current is setting us forward, which we could not resist, even if we would, and which, while we would stop to make an observation, and take the sun, has set us, at the end of the operation, iar in advance of the place where we commenced it. Does it not become us, then-is it not a duty imposed on us-to give our weight to the side of liberty and justice-to let inankind know that we are not tired of our own institutions-and to protest against the asserted power of altering, at pleasure, the law of the civilized world?"

Mr. President, I cannot conclude without expressing the deep regret which I feel that circumstances should have arisen of a nature to make it apparently necessary that so much should be said in defence of a movement which, I do not doubt, will be warmly approved by nine tenths of the free and enlightened citizens of this great Republic. I hope that we may soon come to a vote upon the resolution.

Mr. BERRIEN. The question is on the amendment which I have had the honor of submitting to the Senate. It contains two proposisitions. First, it proposes to extend this welcome to the associates of Governor Kossuth. And secondly, disclaims the purpose which is there stated. I apprehend, therefore, that the Chair will concur with me that it is susceptible of division.

The PRESIDENT. Certainly. The amendment contains two distinct propositions, and the question can be taken separately upon each.

Mr. BERRIEN. At the suggestion of Senators, then, I ask that the question may be divided.

The PRESIDENT. The question, then, is on the first branch of the amendment:

"And be it further resolved, That the welcome thus offered

to Louis Kossuth be extended to his associate Hunganan exiles who have landed upon our shores."

Mr. SEWARD. I see no objection to that proposition, and if it will eommend the main resolution to the favor of the Senator, I shall very cheerfully vote for it.

Mr. BERRIEN asked for the yeas and nays, and they were ordered.

Mr. FOOTE, of Mississippi. I wish to make an explanation, lest my vote on this amendment may place me in a wrong attitude. I thought that some special respect was due to Governor Kossuth over and above his associates. On that account I shall vote against the amendment, with the view of making this a special compliment to Kossuth.

Mr. SHIELDS. I am compelled to vote against the amendment of the Senator from Georgia. If it is adopted it will derogate very much from the original intention. I hold that his associates are entitled to this honor; but as we commenced with Kossuth himself, we ought to confine it to him, regarding him as the representative of Hungary and as the representative of liberty.

Mr. BADGER. It seems to me that my friend from Illinois makes a mistake, and that the premises from which he argues lead to a conclusion directly opposite that at which he arrived. We commenced by the joint resolution of the last session. We commenced with "Louis Kossuth and his associates in captivity." The Senator says he wishes to follow up as we began. How is that to be done by leaving out the associates of Kossuth?

Mr. FOOTE, of Mississippi. The gentleman forgets that we only included these associates in the proposition of release, and that this is intended as a cordial welcome to one who is entitled to be recognized as the personification, the imbodiment of liberty beyond the rolling ocean.

Mr. BERRIEN. We did not merely unite the associates of Kossuth with him in the proposa! of a release from captivity, but we united them in inviting to our shores and preparing the means of transit.

Mr. BADGER. Every word of the original resolution which applies to Kossuth applies to his associates.

Mr. CASS said: Mr. President, I shall vote against the amendment of the Senator from Georgia, [Mr. BERRIEN,] not because the fellow-sufferers of the illustrious Hungarian leader are not worthy of respect and commiseration every where, but simply because he comes here as the representative of a great principle, and I do not desire to have our testimonial in its favor weakened by the introduction of other names or topics. We all know the effect of amendment after amendment upon a resolution, and how easily its character and objects are changed by such proceedings. For myself, I shall adhere to the purpose we have in view.

Mr. President, I intended to say something upon this subject, and I may as well say it now upon the question before the Senate. This discussion has taken a very wide range-a very discursive range. I shall not follow it in its ramifications: but there are some observations which I wish briefly to offer to the Senate.

Now, with respect to the invitation from Congress to Kossuth, I am not going to enter into any critical analysis of it; I am not going to enter into any philological examination of its words. It is idle to say that we invited him as an ordinary emigrant, to come here to enter his one hundred and sixty acres of land and take up his residence in the forest.

To be sure, the word "emigrants" is used in the original resolution, but our attention was fixed upon the leader and his patriotic band, not because we sought them for the usual purposes of emigration, but because he had been an apostle and had become a martyr of liberty, and we de sired to honor the cause and to honor the man; and we were truly anxious to rescue all these interesting sufferers from the evils of captivity, and the still greater evils impending over them, should Mohammedan hospitality be compelled to yield to Christian menaces. We invited the great leader of a great revolution to come among us; one who had performed a noble part in the history of his country, in the history, indeed, of the human race. It was an imposing procedure on our part. It

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