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to the plan or size of a certain book, on such and States a right to judge whether they could bid Mr. BADGER. I move to fill it with fifty such paper, and the binding to be done in such lower than another or not. In disposing of the thousand. and such a manner and who is the public printer;" ! public work, where printing is involved, it is a The PRESIDENT. The question will be first from Appleton, of Boston, to Harpers, of New right that belongs to every printing establishment on the motion of the Senator from North Carolina York, who will undertake this work, and do it to have the liberty of making a proposition to do to fill the blank with fifty thousand. cheapest, according to the plan proposed by the it. It is contrary to the principles of our Govern- When a division was called for Secretary of the Interior? Are we to suppose ment to confine our contracts to particular persons, Mr. BADGER said: As gentlemen seem to be that he will propose a plan for the work not dura- to the exclusion of others equally competent to starlled at the idea of fifty thousand copies, I will ble in its character, and advantageous to the coun- perform the work We should observe an equal. | change my motion to twenty-five thousand copies. try? Not at all. Then by this means we have ity, sir, and base our action upon such a ground The twelve thousand proposed by the Senator competition, and competition regulates prices. that every man in the community who desires, from Connecticut will be entirely too inadequate. Competition brings down labor to the mere point may compete for the contract. I submit to the It will only involve the necessity of Congress pubwhere it can make support, and it is our duty to Senate and the country whether either party, I lishing a future edition of the work with increased make it so. Now, I ask, is the Union office to be care not which, that pursues the course proposed l expense. deprived of the same privilege, or the Intelligencer by the resolution of ihe Senator from Indiana, is Mr. PEARCE. Does this refer to the printing or any book-binding establishment in the United not confining itself down to terms inconsistent of a compendium or of the original returns States? No. They come in competition; and if i with the public interest, and in violation of the Mr. SMITH. The original returns as arranged they have the material, and the time, and the right of other citizens of the country. What! if I in the Census Office. It is the large work. proper capacity to execute the work, there is the am a printer in the city of Washington, and the Mr. BADGER. I did not know that. public announcement; put in your bid, and if you Union office is also a printing establishment here, Mr. PEARCE. The number is entirely too

are the lowest bidder you will get it. By this mode shall I be excluded from the right of competing large. I think one-fourth of the quantity will bo - you will not exclude the Globe or the Republic, with it for the public printing upon any principle entirely adequate. or any other office. And why then give it exclu- that we can adopt? Upon what principle would Mr. BADGER. I thought it related to the sively to the Union ? Is it because they can do it it be? The Senator from New Hampshire rather compendiuun; but as it relates to the original rebetter than any other? Not at all. They may ironically presented a state of things here which turns, I withdraw my motion. do it equally as well. The only objection I have to I do not pretend to stand upon—that it grows out Mr. BORLAND.' I think the whole proceedthe resolution is, that by it you confine the print- | of party considerations. I cannot believe that-1 | ing, now proposed, embracing the original resoluing to certain individuals, and deprive the country ought not to believe it. But if these charges go tion, as well as the amendments under consideraof the benefit of competition.

forth to the country against the character of this tion, is irregular and premature. The act of the Mr. President, it is said that our work has body, should we not avoid giving any foundation last Congress, commonly called the Census Bill, been badly done. In some instances, I admit this for them? And how can we avoid it? By pursu - | in refereuce to the results of which it is now promay be so, but to make this declaration with re- ing a proper and consistent course on this subject. | posed we shall act, requires, by express provision, spect to all of it, is unjust towards that old gentle. Let your printing go where it ought to go. This ihat after the information had been collected by man who formerly did our printing. I speak of is an emanation from the Department of the Inte- the marshals, and forwarded to Washington, the Mr. Ritchie. To say that his work, so far as the rior. There is a responsible man there deeply in- || Superintendent of Census should digest and preprinting is concerned, was not done honestly, and terested in the proper publication of this work. pare a plan for its publication, and lay it before in good faith, is not true. The printing by Mr. He superintended the taking of the census. His Congress at this session; and further, that the printHamilton has been better than for many years | reputation is involved in it. We are now abouting of the information thus obtained, prepared, and preceding, and the paper has been honestly sup- to adopt much in that work which was never laid before us, should then be done, as Congress plied, and all the material has been such as shows authorized by law; for in the act authorizing should direct. Now, sir, I ask, has this duty of durability and clearness upon its face.

the census to be taken nothing is said about the Suprintendent of Census been performed? Has Mr. BORLAND. I wish to inquire of the ascertaining when the States were settled, when the information required by the law, and in the Senator from Georgia, if I understood him to say the counties were formed, or making any histori- | form required, been laid before us? If so, where that the printing has been done according to con- cal or geological representations of the various is il-who has seen it—who can tell us anything

States in the Union. That was never contem- about it? What are we to print? Shall it be the Mr. DAWSON. Not at all.

plated. But it is all in the returns. They contain whole mass of matter, in the crudeand undigested Mr. BORLAND. It is my duty to say that ihat valuable information all of which we are to state in which it was received from the deputy I have most carefully examined both the printing adopt. Who is the author of that? Congress | marshals, that has been received by the Superinand the paper, weighing the paper with a pair of did not authorize it to be obtained. The Superin- | tendent of Census? Or, if not the whole, then scales, prepared expressly for that purpose, and I tendent of the Census, through his labor, has how much of it, and what part of it? It seems to find it to fall short, at least twenty-five per cent., | brought all that into the census returns. It is his me that every one must perceive that, before we of what the contract requires.

production; and is it not just to him, if you adopt | undertake to dispose of this matter, it is indispens. Mr. DAWSON. I am not speaking about the that as a part of your census returns, that he at able that we shall know what it is; that is, we contract; I maintain, though, that the paper and least should have the superintendence of the pub- must know what, and how much, we intend to printing are both clear, and to my eye very lication, so that he may correct any errors which || print, before we can print it; or, what is the same good.

might creep into it. When you passed the law | thing, contract for it, as proposed in the resolution. But it is alleged, on the one side, that you have authorizing the census to be taken, you said that with all the information before the Senate, or the failed in all the special contracts which you have the printing of this work should be reserved to committee, which could possibly be obtained, it made; and on the other, that all the contracts Congress. And why? To keep it out of the would be very difficult to make the estimates to which you have made by letting out the work to public printer's hands--the printer that you had insure an intelligent and practicable contract. the lowest bidder have been a total failure. I will already employed by contract to do the Congres- Without any information at all, as to the characask of the Senate, where is the special contract, ! sional printing And why did you do that? In ter and quantity of the work, as we now are, it which was made with the lowest bidder according i order that it might be printed in a style to accord would be impossible. No one can tell us, except to the terms specified, that has not been conformed with your views and wishes. Now, Congress by vague and unreliable guesses, whether the to and the printing well done for the Senate of the can prescribe the manner and style of publication, || work, when printed, will make one volume, or United States? Is it • Blue Book?" Is it and direct the Secretary of the Interior to attend twenty volumes. But all the information I have Schoolcraft's publication in relation to the abori- to it, or we can direct him to prescribe the manner mentioned, the law actually requires we shall have gines of this country: They have come up to the in which it should be done, and he can have it before we proceed further. I think every considpublic expectation. They have come up to the done.

eration of duty and of policy demands that we contract. And, besides, if you let the work out to Mr. President, I have very little interest in this should conform to the requirements of the law. the lowest bidder, upon terms specified and agreed matter as to the amount of appropriation. I have At the suggestion of a friend near me, I ask for on, and the bidder fails to discharge his duty, an interest, though, in protecting this body from the reading of the amendment proposed by the what are your courts of justiceintended for? What unjust insinuations. I have no objection to the Senator from Connecticut, (Mr. SMITH.) is the judgment of your body? You have the Union office having this printing. But l object to The amendment was read. power of appropriation; and if there be a failure their having the exclusive righi to it. I maintain Mr. BRIGHT. The original law which was to comply with the contract, you have it in your that Rives, or Gales & Seaton, and everybody introduced at the first session of the Thirty-first power to stop the appropriation for it, and also to else, should have the same privilege. No party Congress, directing the taking of the Seventh Censue the violator of ihe contract and recover dam- considerations govern me in this matter. None at sus, constituted the Secretary of State and Attorages. Why, sir, has it come to this that there is all. I stand independent of all influence of that ney General a Census Board. They were directed such a want of confidence in the contractors with kind. We do not know how the papers will be by the terms of the law to agree upon the statistics this Government that we should look necessarily divided in the presidential canvass. It was said and enumerations of the inhabitants of the United for a failure, and that we should make a contract by the Senator from New Hampshire, (Mr. States which were to be taken. The forms that for an amount above what we could procure it for HALE,) that human nature will be the same at are now in use or have been used were adopted. from other individuals, merely to avoid the conse- least until after the next presidential election. The census, the enumeration, and statistics were quences of the failure on the part of contractors to What does that mean? It means that we are collected in pursuance of that law. The Superinconform to their contracts? It.is unjust to argue acting on party purposes; that we are laying down tendent of the Census Bureau has prepared at the thus. The presumption is, that every man who party positions, and making contracts' merely to head of each State, what is called a historical enters into a contract is honest and will honestly subserve party considerations, and not the inter- account of the State. A description of the coun. conform to it.

ests of the country. I say it is our duty to avoid ties, of their political organization, resources, &c., I stated that I preferred the amendment of the that; and the only way to avoid it is to accept the is also given. I understand some Senators to Senator from Connecticut; and why? Because it amendment of the Senator from Connecticut. object to the printing of so much of that collection would permit competition to enter into the dispo- Mr. SMITH. There is a blank in the amend- as relates to the counties. The resolution which sition of this contract; because it would give to all ment which is to be filled. I move to fill it with || I have offered, places it in the power of the comconnected with the printing interest of the United twelve thousand.

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I do not see how the Senate can decide that. I quently do reject these recommendations. As a the preparation, which would be followed out have proposed to refer it to the committee, inferring general practice, I admit, the reports from the with the residue of the States and Territothat they are the judges as to what should be Committee on Printing are adopted; but there ries. It has been so said since the subject has printed in this case, as they have been in all other have been many instances of rejection, and still been under consideration here. Well, sir, it is cases of printing-for when we introduce a bill or more of modification. Certain it is that the action | quite necessary that this vast mass of matter, report, I believe, under the rule, it goes to that of the committee is, in no such case, final. which I suppose goes into the Census Office by committee, and they have the power to decide Mr. BRIGHT. I desire to make one remark cart-loads, should be condensed with great judga whether it shall be printed or not, or at least to to correct the Senator from Arkansas. I was not ment and good sense, and reduced to some pracact upon it and recommend to the Senate what mistaken in saying that the census, as taken tical size, so that it can be brought into print should be done. And I have known of no case under the present heads, is in conformity with without incurring any very enormous expense to where their report was overruled.

the directions of Congress. I think the Senator ! do it, and into a form that will be useful to the Mr. BORLÅND. It has been done frequently. himself is mistaken in having mistaken me. 1public: On that hangs all the value of this im

Mr. BRIGHT. At any rate, the original reso- stated that the report made by the Census Board mense undertaking of collecting statistics of poplution contemplates the reference of this matter to was adopted, to be sure with alterations, by i ulation, &c. I do not know to what the expense that committee, and they are to decide what shall Congress subsequently; but the recommendations of all this will sum up, but I suppose it will be be printed, and upon what terms it shall be done. made by Congress, correcting the report of that from one to two and a half millions of dollars. I shall not address myself to the amendment of Board, have been adopted and followed by the My honorable friend from Connecticut says that it the Senator from Connecticut, for the reason that Superintendent of the Census. It is in pursuance will be somewhere between seventeen and eighteen I have no idea that it can be adopted. I think, of corrections made by the Senate that the census hundred thousand dollars. I speak of the exhowever, that twenty-five thousand is an ample has been taken and prepared,

and it is now ready pense of taking the census. I mean to say, that number; but that is a matter not provided for by for delivery. The Senator from Massachusetts this information is acquired by the payment of a my resolution. The committee can decide upon [Mr. Davis) can correct me if I am mistaken. vast sum of money. It is either valuable or that and report to the Senate.

Mr. DAVIS. Mr. Pres

ought to be valuable. And, sir, when we are unMr. BORLAND. The Senator from Indiana Mr. BORLAND. Will the Senator permit me dertaking to arrange this matter so as to spread it [Mr. Bright] has fallen (inadvertently, I have to make a single remark?

before the public in a form that will make it acno doubt) into a mistake upon two points:

Mr. DAVIS. Certainly.

cessible, I really think we ought to understand 1st. He has, I think, misapprehended the pre- Mr. BORLAND. I will admit that the Super- what we are about to do. Now, I would ask the liminary census bill as to the functions and duties intendent of the Census has followed the general i Senator who takes the lead in this business, where of the Census Board created by it. He proceeds plan prescribed in the census bill for taking the is that account of the State of Maryland' which upon the supposition that the powers of that

But in the remarks I just now made I was proposed to be laid before us ? Board were plenary, and its action final, in adopt-did not allude to that part of his duty; I was Mr. BRIGHT. I have a copy. ing the plan for taking the Seventh Census. In speaking of his other duty, required by the law, Mr. DAVIS. I have not seen it on my table. this he is mistaken. It was made the duty of to classify and arrange the information collected, 'It has not been communicated in any form that I that Board to prepare a plan, embracing schedules, and prepare and lay before us a plan for its publi- | have seen. for the use of the marshals in taking the census. cation. I repeat, the census bill requires this last- Mr. BRIGHT. I will answer the Senator. [ That was the extent of its powers; and its action, named duty of him, and its due performance is an obtained a copy only by applying at the office for even to that limited extent, was not final. It was indispensable preliminary to our action upon the it, for the purpose of information. I obtained it required to report to this body what it had done. question of printing: We are not to print and as a sample to show the size of the work, and That report was made, and we all remember what throw out to the public the enormous and crude what would be the probable cost of it. I did not was then done. A census committee was then mass of matter made up of all the returns of all the bring all which relates to the State of Maryland. appointed, to whom the report of the Census marshals in the form in which it has been received Mr. DAVIS. The Senator says he has been Board was referred. The plan proposed by the at the Census Office. Why, sir, if we were so favored with a part of it. We all want to see it. Board was revised, and materially modified by unwise as to undertake such a work as that, it We all desire to see the plan, to see what the Suthe committee. And the revision and modifica- would be difficult to estimate its cost in dollars perintendent of the Census proposes to do with the tion did not stop there; but when the committee and cents, and equally difficult, perhaps, to find information which has been collected. After we reported to the Senate, a protracted discussion room in the Capitol for the books after they were have seen his plan and arrangement in regard to was had—the whole subject was examined, per- | printed. I feel quite sure this Chamber is not Maryland, we can form some opinion as to what haps more thoroughly and critically than any large enough to contain them. But the proper will be the size of the work; whether the arrangeother subject has ever been examined here'; course alike for the Superintendent of Census ment of the work is judicious; whether it is thrown many days, indeed my memory is that several and for us, is plainly and imperatively marked into a form which will be most useful; or whether weeks, were occupied with it. Many, and in out by the law: He shall classify and arrange the it is capable of improvement. If it is capable of some respects radical, changes were made. In information, and then lay his plan for its publica- | improvement, the improvement ought to be made. the schedules, whole columns were stricken out tion before us; and it becomes our duty, after | Gentlemen ought to have an opportunity of seeing and others were added; and in several instan- | adopting, modifying, or substituting that plan, to it. They ought to have an opportunity of examinces, I think, the captions were so altered as to order the printing in accordance with the plan ing it; and when they have done that, they can act give an entirely new character to the informa- | agreed upon. Any plan to be adopted must of understandingly on the subject, and not before, in tion to be collected. When we had done with it, course embrace such a condensation and digest my opinion. The act itself, as has been justly in this respect, and adopted a general plan, which of the whole mass of information as to bring it said by the Senator from Arkansas, (Mr. Bokmay be called a new plan, of our own, upon the within a compendious and practicable compass LAND,) provides that such an arrangement, when basis, I admit, of those furnished us by the Board for printing.

made, should be reported to this body. It ought and committee, but materially differing from both, Mr. DAVIS. I do not think it is very import- to have been done long ago. We cannot act unwe were so careful to guard the consummation of ant to go into the history of the bill under which derstandingly upon the business until we see what a work to which we attached so much importance the census was taken, though I apprehend that the plan of operations is—until we can comprehend and upon which we had bestowed so much labor, both the gentlemen, especially the Senator who what is to be done. that we would not agree that its results should be brings forward this resolution, are under some Well, it is said that the statistics of each State, printed and published until it should again under- | mistake about it. The truth is, that the Census and of each county, and for aught I know, of each go our scrutiny and revision. For this final scru- Board, as it is termed, was directed by Congress town, are to be preceded by a succinct history of tiny and revision, we provided in the census bill, to make a set of tables; but when Congress as- the State and county. Now, if I do not misjudge, proper, passed at the conclusion of that mareful sembled, no set of tables was laid before them. this is entirely out of place. It does not belong to and extended discussion, by requiring that the They, however, appointed a special committee to statistics. It is no part of the object of Congress Superintendent of Census, after the information enter upon this subject. That committee had ac- to publish a history of the country. It is to pubshould have been collected, under the law and complished nearly all their labors before any offi- lish the figures with such explanations as will according to the plan we had adopted, should | cial report was made at all, and then a very large enable the reader to understand them. That is all. classify and arrange that information and lay it portion of their work, as my friend knows, was And of what importance is it to know whether a before us with a plan for its publication at this incorporated into the report of this very board. county exists, when it was first laid out, and when session of Congress. The duty of thus classify. That is the history of those tables. They came it was divided or subdivided? Of what importance ing and arranging the information collected under in an unofficial form that had been worked out by is that? All that information can be obtained elsethe census bill, and of laying it, together with a a number of individuals who had been employed where with great ease. It belongs to other parts plan for its publication, before us, has not yet upon that subject. They contained information of history. It does not belong to statistics. been performed. Until that shall have been done, | of very great value. They were of very great Moreover, it is likely that by a process of that we have nothing to act upon for the purpose of importance, but at the same time they were not sort you will swell this work to a very inordinate printing. There is nothing to print.

officially laid before us. It was upon them that size, at a very enormous expense; for it is car2d. The Senator is equally mistaken as to the the tables were finally built up mainly and chiefly ried on, as every one concedes, with an enormous funetions and powers of the Commistee on Print by the committee. But that is not of any im- expenditure. Then why should we trouble ouring. The powers of that committee, like those of portance. It was sufficiently discussed at the last selves with this. Why not bring these tables all our other committees, are properly limited to Congress.

down to the smallest possible compass, with an making reports and recommendations. In the Mr. President, I had supposed when the dis- arrangement• lucid in its character, and which matter of ordering documents to be printed, its cussion upon this subject first commenced, when should give the facts. That is what we want. action is, in no case, final. A motion to print is this topic was first brought before the Senate, We want a tabular statement; we want accuracy; made in the Senate, and then referred to the com- that there was in preparation-indeed, I had seen we want a clear and succinct method of doing it; mittee. This is followed by a report from the it announced in the newspapers that there was and that is what we desire. We do not want hiscommittee, which is only a recommendation in preparation—a condensation of the statistics tory: which the Senate can adopt or reject at its pleas- || for the State of Maryland, which was to be laid I did not wish to say one word about this matter; ure; and it is well known that they not unfre- Il before Congress as a specimen of the method of but when I am called on to vote without proper

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information before me, I must say that I feel ex- knowledge I had that the head of our Census Several Senators named a larger number of tremely embarrassed in giving my vote. I do not Bureau had turned historian. It was the first || pages. know what I am to vote for. 'I do not see the knowledge I had that the law we passed contem- Mr. HAMLIN. I am not very ready in figures, plan of operations. I am not able to comprehend plated any such thing. Indeed the law does not bu gentlemen can easily calculate it by multipiying what is to be the size and magnitude of the work.contemplate any such thing. It neither contem- twenty-one by thirty-one. If there is anything in the suggestion which has plates such a thing, nor can you draw from it that Mr. BUTLER. What the Senator speaks of been thrown out-I trust there is not, I am not power by any possible deduction. My friend are only one half of the returns of the State of prepared to believe it-ihat there is a purpose of from Pennsylvania (Mr. BRODHEAD) suggests that | Maryland. making a job of this, it will be easy to swell it out a twenty-four horse power might possibly draw Mr. HAMLIN. I am aware of that, but I with historical matter, as to towns and counties it. I doubt it very much.. I have turned to the judge from the appearance of that half that the and States. If this is a job to be paid for by the law for the purpose of seeing what the law was, concluding portion of it will be appropriate, to wit: page or by the em, by a rule which pays them ac- and comparing it with the thing which they have the tables which show the population, and the vacording to the proportionate magnitude of the work, presented to us here for our action. The law is rious products of the industry of the State. there will be an inducement to swell it out. Under very plain and very clear. It prescribes, first, these circumstances, I think it very clear that we the duties of the marshals, and what they shall first taken, to have confined it simply to an enuought to understand at least someihing about the do; what information they shall collect and return meration of the people; but the law for taking the limits of this work; something about the extent to to the Secretary; and then the section concludes census has already been passed, and I am not, at which it is to run, in all human probability. If by saying, “and further, as the returns are so least, for transcending that law: I am not for going we have laid before us the sample of a State which made out, to cause the same to be classified and beyond that. Taking the State of Maryland as a exhibits the method complete, then we can form arranged in the best and most convenient manner State which will average with all the States, old a pretty good opinion when that comes to be run for use, and lay the same before Congress at the and new, large and small, we shall have a work through the whole Union. next session thereof."

which will contain some six or seven hundred Mr. COOPER. Mr. President, I think it must Is there any power given there by which this pages of historical matter. I saw in the outset of strike everybody that there is great wisdom in the Bureau was authorized to become an Historical this resolution, as soon as it was presented, that it suggestions which have been made by the Senator Bureau? I know not how it may be with other would meet with these various objections, and I from Arkansas, (Mr. Borland,) and by the Sen- Senators here, but I should regret exceedingly to have deemed it advisable to say, that my view of alor from Massachusetts, (Mr. Davis.) We are see any one individual, however qualified he might the subject would lead the committee, appropriateyet in the dark, and cannot know what we are deem himself for the task, make an attempt to ly, to exclude all that part relating to the history doing until we have a sample of what is proposed to condense the history of all the States. I know of of the States and counties from any contract which be done by the Superintendent of the Census. I no individual connected with that Bureau, with they might make, and I shall so act unless the understand, from the suggestions which have been whom I would intrust that power, or the duty of Senate shall express a different opinion, or othermade, that there is to accompany that which is, | condensing the history of the State from which I wise direct. correctly speaking, the census, a historical ac- come. Who is there there who knows intimately of Mr. PEARCE. Mr. President, I think the recount not only of the States, but of the counties, its great and extended commerce? Who is there marks which have fallen from the honorable Senand perhaps of the towns in the States. I need there prepared to enter into those details that we ator from Arkansas, and from other gentlemen, not tell you, Mr. President, and I need not tell the should deem essential in our own State, and which most abundantly satisfy the Senate that this disSenate, that this must necessarily be very inaccu- would be necessary to do justice to the State, if | cussion is premature, and that the resolution itself rate, and but very little calculated to promote a they are to be sent broadcast over this land, and is premature. We really do not know what is knowledge of the condition of the country. We seni to other countries? Why, it is a monstrous the matter upon which we are now proposing to have seen gazetteers of several States, prepared by stretch of power; and it is a key which shows act. If the Senate would have a litile patience; if persons who have taken the utmost pains to ascer- why they have had a hundred and sixty clerks they would wait some two or three weeks, they iain the historical facts in relation to the States, employed in that Bureau-a number truly aston- would be furnished with a sample of the work as and in relation to the counties, and yet we know ishing-employed for the purpose of compiling the the Superintendent of the Census proposes to have how inaccurate.all these gazetteers are, and how statistics that were returned by the marshals. it done. I understand that he has prepared the little of accurate history they really contain. How accurate the History of Maryland may returns of the State of Maryland, and that they

As has been remarked by the Senator from be I know not. I presume it is well written, but are now in press, and are expected to be furnished Massachusetts, it does seem to me that we are I have not read it, and do not mean to express an to the Senate in the course of two or three weeks. departing entirely from what ought to be the opinion. I am not qualified to judge of its correct- When we get these returns, which will furnish a object of Congress in making an enumeration of ness. But I do say, that I am unwilling, as one sample of the whole work, we shall understand the population and of those things which are prop- of the Representatives of one of the States, to in- what is his plan; and we shall not understand erly statistical, when we go beyond the popula- trust that power, or that duty, to these men. what his plan is until we got those returns. It is tion and productions of the country, to give a his- Besides that, I do not believe that it is properly | true that a brief historical sketch preceded the retory, by a gentleman competent to do the work connected with the work. Congress asked for no turns of each county. It may be true that the which was originally intended, but, from the ex- such thing in the law, and I do not believe they | Senate may approve of the historical sketch; pertent of the work, necessarily incompetent to give will either ask or accept of it now. Why we haps they will reject it. If they decide to reject it anything like an accurate history of the various have been accused already of turning book- || when they receive the returns of Maryland, nothStates, and counties and towns in the States. I makers; and now comes the next phase, and we ing will be easier than to say that we disapprove am opposed to this altogether; and before I can are turning historians. We are to publish the his- of this historical sketch, and then the Superinvote understandingly on this subject, I must be tory of the States, if this plan is to be carried out. tendent of the Census may save himself the labor informed what is proposed. When I see the char- And more than this, we are to publish the history of making other historical sketches. In justice to acter of the work that is to be produced, I shall be of counties; and we will next get down to the the Superintendent of the Census, I must say that prepared to say what number of copies I will be history of municipal corporations. We want this these historical sketches are very brief; and whether ready to vote for, what number of copies I sup- work; and we want to make it valuable, Valu- | useful or not, they do not seem likely to fill such pose may be distributed with advantage amongst able it may be made, from the information con- an enormous amount of space as the Senator from my constituents. But until I know that, I shall tained in the returns.

Maine supposes.

It may not be desirable to be voting in the dark. I therefore think this meas- I do not know what may be the views of other publish them, but the calculation of the Superinare should be postponed for the present, until gentlemen with whom I am associated in the tendent of the Census is, that with all the bistorithere is a sample or example of the work presented || Committee on Printing; but this I do know-and cal sketches and tables, the returns will not exto the two Houses of Congress, in order that they I think it my duty frankly to express it to the ceed, as the utmost, two or three volumes of the may know what should be stricken out, and if Senate—if the duty, if the burden, is wrongfully size of the “ American Archives.” That is his there be anything that ought to be added, what it placed on me, of making this contract, I say here calculation. But if the Senate will wait two or should be.

in my place, that I will contract for printing no three weeks, until they get the sample which is I think that the suggestions made by the honor such matter, unless I am directed in express being prepared, which will show what the work able Senator from Arkansas (Mr. BORLAND) and terms by the Senate to do so. If the Senate will be if his plan is adopted, they can have before the honorable Senator from Massachusetts (Mr. should deem it advisable to convert this body, or them the information which the law contemplated. Davis) contained much wisdom; and I hope that any of the committees under it, into historical This sample is the report called for by the law." the resolution will be postponed, and that the sub- | bureaus, they may do so; and it will be my duty When the Senate get it, they can act understandject will lie over until the sample shall be furnished to act in obedience to their directions.

ingly. Until they do get it, they cannot act unwhich will enable us to vote understandingly. I I have the sample of the Census of the State of derstandingly. I think it proper, therefore, to repeat here that I am entirely opposed to a history Maryland before me. The returns of the State of postpone the subject for two or three weeks; and gotten up in this way; for it must necessarily be | Maryland, which are comprised in this sample, I now move that the further consideration of this a mass of trash. It is utterly impossible that a maké twenty-eight pages.

resolution be postponed until this day three gentleman, however qualified he may be to write Mr. BUTLER. That is only half of it.

weeks. å history, if he had the time necessary, can give a

Mr. HAMLIN. There are twenty-eight pages Mr. BUTLER. I was on the Census Comcorrect history of all the States in this Confeder- in it, as I said; but these twenty-eight pages only mitttee at the last Congress, and I desire, thereacy, and of all the counties in those States, in the contain one half of the returns of the State. Twenty- fore, to say a few words now. I did not hear all short time which has transpired since the taking one pages of these twenty-eight-more than two that was said by the Senator from Massachusetts. of the census.

thirds—are devoted to the historical account, to I have no doubt he gave a fair view of the diffiMr. HAMLIN. Mr. President, I shall detain which I have already alluded. If twenty-one culties of the subject. This is an exemplification the Senate but a very few moments. I have just pages are to be appropriated to the historical ac- of what I said at the time the census bill was behad placed in my hands what purports to be a count of each State and Maryland, at least, may fore the Senate. I said at that time, that in my part of this work, as prepared ai the Census be assumed to be a medium State—we would have deliberate judgment, the act went beyond the scope Bureau. It appears to be the census returns for some six or seven hundred pages of historical matter of the Constitution. I say that the act under & part of the State of Maryland. It was the first ll connected with the census returns.

which the marshals have made their returns to the

one,

once.

turns.

Superintendent of the Census, brought matters After prescribing the general duties of the Super- Mr. ATCHISON. I withdraw it. within the operation of the census which were intendent for taking the Census, and receiving the Mr. BRADBURY. , I understand the object of never contemplated by the Constitution itself. I marshal's returns, it holds this language:

postponement to be that we may have an opporsaid then, that the Constitution provided that a “ And, further, as the returns are so inade, to cause the tunity of examining the historical part of the census should be taken. What is comprehended same to be classified and arranged in the best and most document which is being prepared. The original under the word “Census?” Why, an enumeraconvenient manner for use, and lay the same before Con

act specifies with sufficient distinctness what is the tion of the population. For what purpose? To

gress at the next session thereof." enable Congress to regulate the representation of

Now, sir, this duty of the Superintendent has

duty of the Census Board. For one, I am totally the different portions of the Confederacy. It was not been performed-his plan, as required by the

opposed to going beyond what that act requires, We have not

and publishing anything more than that act made also intimated, perhaps, that it might legitimately I law, has not been laid before us, fall within the scope of such an agency to take the matter before us which the law requires we

necessary. It has already been stated by a memshould have before we act, and without which,

ber of the Committee on Printing that he should also an estimate of property, real and personal.

not regard it as his duty to contract for the pubTo that extent I was willing to go. But the act in the very nature of things, we cannot make our

lication of any of the historical part of the work went further. It required a species of information, action either sensible, practical, or useful. rather to satisfy the curious than to comply with

This, if it were needed, would be placed in a

which is said to be prepared. He stated that he clearer and stronger light, by quoting another and

regarded it as no pari of the census, and as hav

ing no necessary connection with the tables which This is history, it is said. It must be regarded, subsequent passage

of the same section of the law; I should be published. I think that is the general information as that to which I have just alluded printing: I will read it, from the Proviso, at the opinion of the Senate. It is for that purpose that And how does it come before the Senate? We close of the section:

I am prepared to vote for the original resolution

authorizing this committee to contract for the pubsupposed that in the act which we passed for

“The blanks and preparatory printing for taking the Census shall be prepared and executed under the direction of

lication of the census. taking the census, we imposed legislative sanctions, the Census Board; the other printing to be erecuted as I really think that it is magnifying the labor of by which the information there provided for should Congress shall direct."

the clerks in the Census Bureau who have underalone be collected. But after the act was passed, How can we execute this provision of the law taken, as a work of supererogation, to turn histoI suppose, this Superintendent of the Census, or -how direct this printing to be done, unless we rians, that we should delay for a fortnight or three somebody else, wrote to the marshals, voluntarily, i know what, and how much is to be done? The weeks in order to examine their history, and see requiring them to become historians as far as work we are now asked to have done, is not before whether we will imbody it in the census returns. regards collecting certain materials of the history | us, and has never been here indeed, it has no For I am totally opposed to it, and I do not of their own counties and districts. Who, then, existence anywhere; for, remember, it is the think we need any delay for that purpose. I hope, is to be the historian? The Superintendent him- “plan” of publication upon which we are to act, i therefore, that the motion, which I shall feel bound self, taking these materials and making a book of and in regard to which we are to give our “ direc- to renew, of the honorable Senator from Missouri, them?

tion.” It is certainly our duty, then, I think, to will not prevail, but that we shall get rid of this I have heretofore regarded the office of a his- ! postpone all action upon the question until we subject to-night. We wish to publish the census, torian as one of the very highest importance, re- have something to act upon.

and we wish to have the printing well done. Comquiring a rare combination of industry, talents, Mr. DAVIS. If the gentleman will allow me, petent men are prepared to contract, and it is proand judgment; and, above all, a degree of deliber- || I will recall one fact to his mind. In the original | posed that a committee, in whom we can repose ation, and extreme impartiality, and honesty in Census bill, as reported by the committee, there confidence, shall contract with them, provided they reviewing all the incidents and materials put before was a provision for printing the census returns. can do it on fair terms. I see no difficulty, then, his mind. And here we are now proposing to When the subject came to be discussed, it was in the way of the adoption of the resolution at add, after what has been provided by the act, a found that there was so much difficulty attending It seems to me that we shall only magnify book of about fifteen hundred pages at least, com- the making of a provision by anticipation, that by a trifling matter by attempting to postpone our posed of historical matter.

common consent that provision was stricken out action to a future day. Time enough has already I agree with my friend from Maryland that we and there was substituted for it a clause that Con- been occupied in debate on this question. We ought not to act upon this subject without hav- gress should provide for the printing of the re- have seen resolutions of equal importance, involving a sample before us. But if we leave it to the

It was said “ We will wait until we see ing an equal amount of expenditure, passed almost Secretary of the Interior, to the Superintendent of the returns before we make any order as to print- without debate. I presume that every Senator has the Census, or to any committee of the body, we

made up his mind, and that we can act now as well do so blindly, on faith, when they may do what Mr. BORLAND. The Senator from Massa- as at any time. The difficulty that has arisen in the perhaps we might reject. If we had committed chusetts is correct in his recollection. I thank him minds of Senators has arisen in consequence of the it to the Secretary of the Interior, and he had for the suggestion. It was said that as we differed suggestion that the Census Bureau have gone beembraced these matters, we see what an abuse it so much about the details of the general plan for yond the requirements of the law, and have undermight have been. If we had committed it to the taking the census—as the Census Board, the Cen- taken to give a historical detail of the States, the Committee on Printing, they might have under- sus Committee, and the Senate each entertained dif- counties in the States, and perhaps the towns. taken to have added these as an appendix to what ferent opinions on subjects which in all their parts | Inasmuch as we shall not probably desire to emthe law requires, and that would have been an were before us, we would, indeed, be acting un- brace any such information in the census returns, abuse. We cannot intelligently legislate on this wisely to prescribe what should be done in matters I think we may as well act on the resolution now. subject, without having before us some sample of of which we had, and then could have no knowl- According to promise, I renew the motion of the what is to be printed; and I would be prepared to edge whatever. So we reserved this final action Senator from Missouri. strike out rather than to add, for I think we have to future discretion, when the only proper basis Mr. BRIGHT. I hope the Senator will withrequired a great deal of curious information to be for correct action, the matter to be acied upon, draw his motion, and I will renew it if he requests collected under the act not contemplated by the should be fully and intelligibly before us. Cer- it. Constitution, much of which ought to be stricken tainly, no one, then, entertained the idea that the Mr. ATCHISON. I made the motion for the out. I shall vote, therefore, to postpone, with a disposal of the main and most important point in. purpose of getting rid of debate, but I withdraw very clear view of the subject in connection with this whole matter, that upon which the value of the motion to accommodate the honorable Senator what I had of it before.

all the work depended, and the disposal of which from Indiana. Mr. BORLAND. Mr. President, I desire now we so carefully guarded, was to be left to the dis- Mr. BRIGHT. I find that this proposition is merely to call attention to the language of the cretion of a single individual, no matter what greatly embarrassed by a collateral question which law, to which I have several times referred. might be his qualifications. The law which, af- || has really nothing to do with it. This resolution

First, however, I would correct the misunder- || ter protracted discussion, and the most careful re- is couched in very plain language. It directs the standing into which I find some of my friends vision, we then passed, reserved this final action Committee on Printing to perform a certain duty have fallen, as to what I said of the manner in to ourselves, and, in my opinion, wisely so re- -that duty is pointed out by a previous law. A which the Superintendent of the Census has per- served it. That law, also, prescribed the basis of previous law of Congress prescribes that a census formed his duty in having the census taken. I our action--a basis which all must admit to be in- l of the inhabitants of the United States shall be was understood by some lo indorse the manner indispensable to useful action, and there I think it taken in a certain way--that certain statistics shall which he has performed that duty--to say that he ought to rest, and so far as my vote will influence be collected under proper heads, and arranged and had done so in strict conformity with the law. In the decision, it shall rest.

classified. This resolution merely contemplates this I was misunderstood. What I intended to Mr. ATCHISON. Mr. President, it is my in- | that the Committee on Printing be direcied to say-and what I think I did say-was, that I tention to move to lay this resolution on the table contract for the printing of this work. It now apwas willing to admit, and had no reason to doubt, to effect the object intended to be effected by the pears that the Board who have been charged with that he had so performed that part of his duty, Senator from Maryland, that this matter may the duty of preparing these tables have added Whether he has so performed the duty or not, I postponed until it shall be ascertained what it is some extraneous matter. This question is emhave no means of knowing, for I have not seen we are to print. It is the opinion of the Senator barrassed by the consideration whether this extrathe work. I based my admission in his favor, from Maryland, and it seems to be the opinion of neous historical matter shall be printed. My 10 that extent, upon the opinion-the correctness other gentlemen, that perhaps in two or three impression is that. Senators greatly magnify the of which I have no reason to doubt that he is a weeks this may be effected. Now, by laying the amount of this printing; but I do not wish, by gentleman of intelligence and integrity, who would subject on the table, we will have a test question any act of mine, to seek to force gentlemen to vote do his duty under the law.

on whether it shall be postponed or not-not for without having an opportunity of understanding But to the main purpose for which I rose. I the purpose of finally disposing of the resolution, the question in all its parts; and as the mover of said, and repeat, thai, in my opinion, this whole but that it may lie on the table until the informa- | the original resolution I am willing to accept the movement for having the printing of the census tion referred to shall be received; and then any motion of the honorable Senator from Maryland undertaken at this time is premature, and not only gentleman can move to take it up. I move to lay to postpone its further consideration until this day not in conformity with the law, but in derogation the resolution on the table.

three weeks, to give Senators an opportunity of of it. I hold that law in my hand, and find this Mr. BRADBURY. If the Senator will with- is looking into the matter. subject disposed of in the nineteenth section. draw the motion, I will renew it.

Mr. PEARCE. The motion submitted by me

ing them."

be

pas put upon its passage,

was to postpone the further consideration of this to make suitablo provision for extending a tele- the time. I may be asked, why I wish the time resolution until this day three weeks.

graph line from Fort Independence to the Pacific; to be extended?' It is because I wish the surveys Mr. BRIGHT. Let it be made the special which was ordered to lie on the table.

to progress, that this vacant land may be entered, order for one o'clock that day.

Mr. FULLER, of Maine, from the Committee on and to stimulate the holders of warrants to locale Mr. PEARCE. I modify my motion so as to Commerce, reported back, with an amendment and them speedily, so that this Virginia military disinclude that.

with a recommendation that it do pass, House trict may be surveyed and settled. The time has The motion was agreed to, and the resolution bill No. 23, to amend an act entitled “ An act to been extended for two years at a time by several was postponed and made the special order for regulate the carriage of passengers in merchant acts of Congress, all of which have now expired, Tuesday, February 3d, proximo.

vessels,” approved February 22, 1847, and “ Anand I merely ask that it may be again extended. On motion, the Senate adjourned.

I
approved May 17, 1848; which was referred to the and I hope that it will

pass.
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union,

Mr. RICHARDSON. There are a number of and ordered to be printed.

other gentlemen who desire to make reports from TUESDAY, January 13, 1852.

Mr. F., akso, from the same committee, reported committees, and as this is an important bill, and The House met at twelve o'clock, m.

the following bills, which were severally read a first one likely to give rise to much discussion, 1 move Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. Mr. MORGAN. and second ume by their titles, referred to a com- the previous question. The Journal of yesterday was read and approved. mittee of the Whole House, and made the order

Mr. STANTON, of Ohio. I hope the gentleOn motion by Mr. DUNCAN, leave was granted of the day for to-morrow, and, with the reports

man from Illinois does not intend to force this bill to withdraw from the files, for the purpose of transaccompanying, ordered to be printed, viz:

through under the operation of the previous quesmitting to the office of the Commissioner of Pen

A bill for the relief of Williams, Staples Wil- tion. liams; and

Mr. RICHARDSON. I want to send it to the sions, the petition and papers in the case of Hector

A bill for the relief of James Ferguson, the sur- Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union, Brown. On motion by Mr. SIBLEY, it was viving partner of Ferguson & Milhardo.

where it can be fully debated. Ordered, That the petition and papers of Charles Curceno On motion by Mr. WALSH, the Committee

Mr. STANTON. I have no objection to its be withdrawn from ihe files of the House and referred to the

on Commerce was discharged from the further commitment. The question being iaken on secComiuittee on Military Afairs.

consideration of the petition of John McKee and onding the demand for the previous question, there Mr. CLARK. I rise to ask the unanimous Henry Lelf, asking for indemnity for losses sus- were-ayes 82, noes 6-no quorum voting. consent of the House to suffer the call of the States tained by the illegal seizure of the barque “ Mary Mr. RICHARDSON demanded tellers; which to proceed from the point where it ceased yester- Teresa;” and it was referred to the Committee of were ordered, and Messrs. TAYLOR and SAVAGE day. It must be well known to gentlemen that Claims.

appointed. there are many bills and resolutions to be intro- Mr. HALL, from the Committee on Public Mr. TAYLOR inquired of the Chair, what duced, and they cannot be introduced by right, Lands, reported a bill further to extend the time would be the effect of the previous question? except on resolution day, which does not occur for locating Virginia military land warrants, and The SPEAKER stated that the effect would be again for two weeks. I trust the States will be returning surveys thereon io the General Land to bring the House to a vote, first upon the motion called.

Office; which was read a first and second time by to refer, and then in case of the motion to refer Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. If the House li its title.

being negatived-upon the engrossment of the bill. will consent to do what they did on Friday morn- Mr. HALL moved that the bill be referred The question was then taken, and it was deciing-that is, allow the States to be now called for the Committee of the Whole on the state of the ded in the affirmative-ayes 120, noes not counted. resolutions as they would have been in order under Union, and that it be printed.

So the previous question received a second. the rules on Wednesday last, all these bills can be Mr. STANTON, of Ohio. I desire to say

The main question was then ordered, which was introduced. something against the bill when it comes up for

upon the motion to refer the bill to the Committee The SPEAKER. Is it the pleasure of the House consideration. that this course shall be taken?

Mr. TAYLOR. That bill relates to an unsur

of the Whole on the state of the Union, and order

it to be printed. Mr. JONES, of Tennessee. I call for the reg. yeyed tract of country in the district which I ular order of the day. have the honor to represent, and I would inquire the affirmative-ayes 106, noes not counted.

The question was taken and it was decided in On motion by Mr. CULLOM, leave was granted if it is not in order now to have it put upon its pasto withdraw from the files of the House, for the sage?

So the bill was referred to the Committee of the purpose of laying them before the proper Depart- The SPEAKER. It will be in the power of Whole on the state of the Union, and ordered to

be printed. ment, the petition and papers in the case of John the House to order that it be engrossed and read a Ditty and Joseph Hadaway.

third time. The first question will be upon com- Mr. McLANAHAN, from the Committee on [Úr. BARRERE, from the Committee on En- mitting it.

the Judiciary, reported back a bill "authorizing rolled Bills, reported as correctly enrolled the joint Mr. TAYLOR. Is it in order to submit any the payment of interest to the State of New Hampresolution for the transportation of the United remarks upon the bill?

shire for advances made for the use and benefit of States mail in California and Oregon; and it was

The SPEAKER. Remarks are in order upon the United States in repelling invasion and sup: then signed by the Speaker.)

the propriety of referring the bill to the Commit- | pressing insurrection at Indian Stream in said REPORTS OF COMMITTEES.

tee of the Whole on the state of the Union. State," with an amendment and recommendation Mr. HOUSTON, from the Committee of Ways tend the time of locating Virginia land warrants in Mr. TAYLOR. The object of that bill is to ex- that the bill do pass.

Mr. McL, moved that the bill be referred to the and Means, reported a bill making appropriation the district of country commonly known as the Committee of the Whole House, made the order for the support of the Military Academy for the year ending the 30th June, 1853; which was read

Virginia military lands. The time for locating 1 of the day for to-morrow, and be printed. a first and second time by its title, referred to the

those lands having expired upon the first day of Mr. STUART. It seems to me that that bill Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union, city of Chillicothe is closed against the entering the Whole on the state of the Union. I move

this month, the Virginia military land office in the would go more appropriately to the Committee of and ordered to be printed.

of lands in that district, until such a bill as the that it be so referred. Mr. MACE, from the Committee of Claims,

present may pass. I can see no objection to the Mr. McLANAHAN. The reference of a simireported a bill for the relief of William Greer; passage of the bill immediately. I will not detain lar bill was made last session to the Committee of а

the House many minutes upon the subject. But || the Whole House. This is a claim of very great referred to a Committee of the Whole House, and

my colleague has some objection to the bill, which merit, and one that should receive the action of made the order of the day for to-morrow, and, with may be as well presented now as at any other the House at as early a day as possible. the report accompanying, ordered to be printed.

time. It is simply a question of time for locating Mr. JONES, of Tennessee. I would inquire of Mr. MACE, from the Committee of Claims, these warrants, two or three years—similar bills the gentleman from Pennsylvania if that bíll does made an adverse report on the petition of J. C. having passed this House for the last eight or ten not make an appropriation, and is not a general Linn for damages for injuries sustained by the years, with a view of closing that office. It is a bill to pay money to one of the States? Now, a conduct of certain United States troops; which singular fact, that in Ohio the only unsurveyed bill of that kind is never treated as a private claim was ordered to lie on the table and be printed. lands in the State are within this military district, and sent to the Committee of the Whole House,

On motion by Mr. SEYMOUR, of New York, being about eighty-five thousand acres. It is im- but is sent to the Committee of the Whole on the the Committee on Commerce was discharged from possible to survey, locate, or appropriate them by state of the Union, where the largest latitude of the further consideration of the petition of Lewis

the holders of warrants, unless we pass such a bill debate is allowed. H. Bates and William Lacon, asking to be indem

as this. I can see no objection to extending the Mr. McLANAHAN. In reply to the gentlenified for losses sustained by them in consequence

time. Certainly the interests of the State of Ohio, man from Tennessee, I will inform the House of a legal seizure of a quantity of iron imported by

as every other section of the country interested in that this is in the nature of a private claim, and them, and that it be referred to the Committee of these Virginia military warrants, require that this that the bill and report are therefore properly refClaims.

office should be kept open. We have a Surveyor erable to the Committee of the Whole House. It On motion by Mr. SEYMOUR, the Committee

General who was appointed by President is not a public or general claim, but it is a claim on Commerce was discharged from the further original records of the Virginia military district States for the payment of a certain sum to the

and who keeps an ofice in Chillicothe, where the set up in equity and justice against the United consideration of the petition of Willinm H. Top-, in Ohio are preserved. I do not suppose that it | State of New Hampshire for military services ping, praying for compensation as clerk to take is the desire of my colleague to shut up that office, testimony in relation the New York custom

rendered by her. Similar claims have been alhouse, and it was referred to the Committee of

and prevent the location of eighty-five thousand lowed to other States, and I believe that in every Claims

acres of land yet unsurveyed; and I hope the instance the reference has been to the Committee

House will pass the bill. I can see no impro- of the Whole House. This bill was reported at Mr. SEYMOUR, from the Committee on Com- priety in it. Congress has repeatedly had the the last session of Congress, but failed to be acted merce, made an adverse report on the petition of subject under its consideration; and so far as I on for want of sufficient time. I think that under William D. Allen and others, praying Congress li know, no objection has been made to extending the rules, as well as the precedents, the motion

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