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casion. He accordingly delivered himself the solemn and repeated declarations made of the witticism which I am about to from the Throne. How that Bill was submit for your Lordships' consideration. encountered, defeated, and got rid of He said

perhaps the noble Earl has now for“Sir, there another subject which the right gotten ;-I can assure him I have not. hon. Gentleman touched upon somewhat tenderly, But in those remarks of his in 1859 and which appeared just at the end of the Speech which I hare been quoting the noble Lord, from the Throne.

addressing the House of Commons, went This was the gravamen of the eharge on to say— against us

“ I do not see that there is any subject which “It certainly appears to me as if Her Majesty's the Government intend to bring forward that will Ministers had gone through all the topics upon furnish them with any excuse for delay in this which they thought Parliament would expect to matter. . . . If the Government have made up be addressed, and that then some Member of the their minds to introduce a Reform Bill, let them Cabinet said, 'Is there nothing forgotten? We lay it on the table. I will give no opinion on a have not left out Mexico, have we? No, there measure of that kind until I see what it proposes it is. There is also a passage about China and to do. There is every disposition in this Japan. I cannot think of anything that is omit- House to wait their time ; but they must not be ted.' But at last some ingenious Member of putting off the subject. My hon. Friend behind the Cabinet perhaps said, “There is one subject me (Mr. Bright) I am afraid, will hardly be able forgotten-there is the Reform of Parliament; we to restrain his impatience. : .. They have must put that in.'”—[3 Hansard, clii. 100.] given a pledge in this matter, and they are bound Now, my Lords, all this was founded on

to perform it.”—[3 Hansard, clii. 102.] the circumstance of Reform being the That was the language of the noble Earl last paragraph in Her Majesty's Speech, in 1859, in breathless haste calling for and that occurring on the 3rd of Febru. the introduction of a finished Reform Bill ary, our Bill was laid on the table on ready for discussion by Parliament. the 28th of the same month, and was month-one little month-was too much then ready for discussion, the House to give after the opening of the Session. having disposed of the question with re- It was the bounden duty, so he urged, of gard to the navy.

But the noble Earl the Government to have their scheme said, with his usual humour,

ready, and, having it ready, to lay it

before the Legislature at once. “ The right hon. Gentleman (Mr. Disraeli),

Well, the Now fitted the halter, now traversed the cart,

noble Earl is now at the head of the Go. And often took leave, but deemed loth to depart.''

vernment, and I do not gather that they But earlier in his remarks, the noble Earl

have their measure ready. I infer from said

this speech that they have not yet made up « The right hon. Gentleman seemed as unwill. If the fact be otherwise, they certainly

their minds what their measure shall be. ing to touch on that subject (Reform) here as the Cabinet were in putting it into the Speech. have done themselves great injustice, beHeaven knows how it has fallen into their cause they say that " inquiries are now charge!”

going forward with reference to the right Well, be that as it may, we know at least of voting in the election of Members to how it was taken out of what a Member of serve in Parliament,” and that “ when the other House the other day, with great that information is complete the attention courtesy of expression, called our “ dirty of Parliament will be called to the result and unhallowed fingers.” But I will tell thus obtained,” &c. Now, my Lords, the the noble Earl how it was that it fell into Government are proceeding either without our hands. Our predecessors had on more information, or with the intention of than four separate occasions pledged the making the information they may profaith of the Crown that such a measure cure square with their foregone conclu. should be submitted to Parliament; and be- sions; or, again, they may be gifted with cause in endeavouring to carry that pledge a superhuman prescience which enables into effect they had so completely bungled them to know infallibly beforehand what and mismanaged the whole question that will be the precise result of these inquiries; they could come to no conclusion at all, that whereas we poor ordinary mortals must be they left everything in confusion and the content to wait until all those promised whole country in an agitation on the sub- statistics are laid before us which are to ject of Reform, we sought to put an end to prove the wonderful skill and dexterity that state of things by a fair, an honest, of the Government in framing a measure and a conscienciously-framed measure, pro- in anticipation of the information on which posed with an earnest intention to fulfil it is to be founded. Well, my Lords,

The Earl of Derby

imitating the wise caution of the noble shaken every day if the inquiry proEarl, I will express no opinion upon ceeded. There was also this obvious their measure until I have seen it. I objection-that if Governor Eyre retained hope it will be such a measure as I shall the supreme authority, however fairly be able to support—that it will be a rea- the inquiry might have been conducted, sonable and satisfactory settlement of this no one would have believed that there grave and important question, which I would have been a fair inquiry, or that believe it is desirable to settle, and settle the truth would be permitted to be told once for all. And I promise the noble when the person accused retained his Earl another thing—that his Bill shall high office. While, too, an apparent have fair play ; that it shall not be thrust stigma was cast upon Governor Eyre, he aside by any underhand methods ; that would be liable to the imputation of supthere shall be no factious movement or pressing the evidence, and not allowing combinations against it on the part of it to go fairly before the public. For those who can combine for nothing else; these reasons, it was determined that the that it shall be dealt with on its merits ; head of the Commission should be supreme that if we can approve of it we shall give Governor of the island ; and I venture to it our cordial support; but that, on the say that we could not have chosen a man other hand, if we disapprove of it and think of higher honour than Sir Henry Storks, it is imperfect, inadequate, or dangerous, or one more fitted to inspire respect, or to and above all if we think it one leading to support and maintain authority in the future agitations within a brief period of island. We have associated with him Mr. a perilous character, then with whatever Russell Gurney and Mr. Maule, and no means we may possess we shall do our two persons are more likely to take a best to throw it out by fair debate and correct view of the law of the case. honourable opposition.

With regard to one of the questions that EABL RUSSELL: My Lords, as the has been raised by the noble Earl, we other topics raised the debate have were perfectly aware when we appointed sufficiently discussed, I will confine my the Commission that the Commissioners observations to two points — the charge could not take evidence upon oath. Direcwhich the noble Earl (the Earl of Derby) | tions, however, went out that the Legishas made against me in regard to the lature should be called together to enable Jamaica rebellion; and the other charge the Commissioners to take evidence on in reference to Parliamentary Reform. oath, and Sir Henry Storks has called In reference to the first, it is to be that Legislature together to give him borne in mind that the question for the authority to examine on oath. consideration of Her Majesty's Govern- clear to us that it was impossible to refuse ment was not whether Governor Eyre inquiry, from the case made out by Gowas right in repressing the rebellion, but vernor Eyre himself. It was equally whether he was right in adopting the impossible to have a satisfactory inquiry means he did to suppress it. It is one if he remained at the head of the island. thing to support an officer who may have Therefore, the course we took was the committed some errors of judgment; but only proper course--the only justifiable when it comes to a question of the lives course- that remained to us. With reof 500 of the Queen's subjects, I do not gard to the other question upon which think it right for us to say, “ We do not the noble Earl has made some observacare whether 500 persons have been put tions, I do not know that I have much to death without necessity, but we will further to say with respect to our measure support the Governor whether he was of Reform, than that I expect it will be right or wrong, and we care nothing brought in quite as soon after the meeting about those persons' lives because they of Parliament as was the case when the happen to be black.” That, then, being noble Earl brought in his measure. Some the question before u8, we determined of the information has been very lately that inquiry should be made. There was supplied, and there is a portion of it of then the question whether the inquiry which the correctness is doubted, and should be instituted with Governor Eyre that has been sent back. I do not doubt, at the head of the Government. Here however, that by the end of the month was this obvious objection, that obviously the Government will be ready to propose the Governor could not maintain his au. their measure. The noble Earl has made thority when that authority would be some complaint against me as to the man

It was

ner in which his own Bill was met, and these provisions, with the absence of any that makes it necessary for me—though adequate extension of the franchise to I should otherwise have postponed my persons occupying houses under £10 a remarks on this subject-to state that I year, made the Bill so bad that it was entertained very grave and solid objections impossible to support it. The noble Earl, to the Bill, which made it impossible for when first Minister of the Crown, introme to agree to the second reading. My duced two measures—one a Budget imposfirst objection to the noble Earl's Bill was ing a very large tax upon houses, and that it took away a right that had been another a measure for the Government of enjoyed, not only from the time of Henry India. I consider they were both exceedVI., but from the very earliest time of ingly bad measures, and both were rejected our Parliamentary history-namely, the by Parliament. But much worse was the right of freeholders in cities and boroughs measure which the noble Earl introduced to vote for the counties in which they under the name of a Reform of Parliament. have their freeholds. That right was an I objected to that Bill, and I stated my essential part of the Constitution — 80 objections fully and fairly. That Bill was essential, in my opinion, that when the defeated by no underhand proceeding, but late Earl Grey told me it was very likely by open and fair opposition. As to the that a provision would be introduced in objections raised by the noble Earl to a the House of Lords into the great Reform measure of Reform, because it might be Bill, taking away from freeholders the regarded in the light of a stepping-stone right of voting for the counties they re- to other more extensive reforms, I have sided in and confining them to vote in only to say that the late Mr. Hume said boroughs, I told Earl Grey that if the the same of the Bill of 1832, and voted Bill came down with that alteration I for it on that ground. But though Mr. should consider it so vitiated that I would Hume said he intended to go much further myself move in the House of Commons than the Bill of 1832, that did not prerent that the Reform Bill, with all its good the late Lord Grey and his Colleagues froni and great provisions, should be rejected. carrying that important measure; nor

THE EARL OF DERBY: May I ask the should the fact of the same being said noble Earl was this always his view as to now prevent the present Parliament from the value and importance of retaining that carrying a measure commensurate with provision ?

the requirements of the time. EARL RUSSELL: There was another VISCOUNT MELVILLE expressed an provision in the noble Earl's Bill which opinion that the Government had treated proposed to restore nomination boroughs. Governor Eyre most harshly and ungraAccording to the Reform Act many of the ciously. _By his energy and firmness Gosmaller boroughs, in which there were ten vernor Eyre had saved the colony. The or twelve voters, were enlarged by £10 Secretary for the Colonies, it was true, voters, so that they contained 300, 400, or had written a most proper letter to Jamaica, 500 electors, whereby a certain independ promising that the names of those who ence was introduced which enabled the had so ably assisted Governor Eyre in supconstituencies to send men of their own pressing the rebellion should be brought opinions to Parliament. Now, the noble inder the favourable notice of the Horse Earl's Bill had a provision by which free- Guards. But what followed ? The Goholders of counties would have voted for vernor had actually been rebuked for those boroughs. Besides this, there was a having adopted severe measures in the further provision, which would have ope- exercise of his duty. It was impossible to rated in some degree as a revival of the say what would be the result of this unold nomination boroughs—the provision worthy conduct on the part of the Governthat these votes might be sent by post, so ment. It really seemed as if the noble that any noble Lord or right hon. Gentle- Lord had turned to the right and left to man in some distant country might send see in what direction the several parties by post the votes of 300 or 400 tenants, set their faces, and then to have acted as who never went near the place, and thus the policy for the moment dictated. It had carry the election. That struck me so been well said by a noble Lord who had much that I stated my objection to a preceded him, that if a late noble Lord had Gentleman who sat near me when the still been at the head of the Government Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed his the idea of censuring Governor Eyre would measure to the House of Commons, that not have been entertained for a moment.

Earl Russell

That noble Lord would have spurned the Accordingly, Mr. Speaker, with the proposal of recalling Governor Eyre. He House, went up to attend Her Majesty :would, on the contrary, have supported him to the last, and not even dreamt of pursuing

And having returned; a line of policy calculated to degrade the Mr. SPEAKER resumed the Chair at a country in the eyes of the world. So Quarter before Four of the clock; and far from censuring Governor Eyre, the several other Members having taken and Ministry should have tendered him the subscribed the Oath : thanks of the country. It grieved him beyond measure to think that the Go

PRIVILEGES. vernor's conduct, under most trying and difficult circumstances, should now be sub

Ordered, That a Committee of Privileges ject to review by men who never knew

be appointed. what danger was.

OUTLAWRIES BILL. Question put,“ Whether the said words Bill “ for the more effectual preventing shall be there inserted ?"-Resolved in the Clandestine Outlawries," read 1°; to be Negative.

read 2o. Then the original Address was agreed to,

BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE, and Ordered to be presented to Her Majesty by the Lords with White Staves. Mr. SPEAKER laid upon the Table Rules,

Orders, and Forms of Proceeding of the CHAIRMAN OF COMMITTEES. House of Commons relating to Public The LORD REDESDALE appointed, Nemine Business, 1866. Dissentiente, to take the Chair in all Committees of this House for this Session.

VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS. COMMITTEE FOR PRIVILEGES-Appointed.

The Sessional Orders being moved ac

cording to custom, on the OrderSUB-COMMITTEE FOR THE JOURNALS—

" That the Votes and Proceedings of this House Appointed.

be printed, being first perused by Mr. Speaker,

and that he do appoint the printing thereof ; and APPEAL COMMITTEE— Appointed. that no person but such as he shall appoint do

presume to print the same,” House adjourned at a quarter past Eleven

SIR COLMAN O’LOGHLEN said, he o'clock, till Thursday next, half past Four o'clock. had a suggestion to offer on the subject.

The House was aware that in the heading of the Votes the days of the week to which they referred were printed in Latin. He

thought the time had come when an alHOUSE OF COMMONS, teration should be made in this respect.

The matter might not be of much importTuesday, February 6, 1866.

ance; but it was rather inconsistent that

while the heading of the Votes, and the The House met at One of the clock.

hour and day to which the Pouse adSeveral other Members took and sub-journed, and in the Notices the days of scribed the Oath ; and several Members | the week and month, were in English, professing the Roman Catholic Religion in the Votes the days of the week and took and subscribed the Roman Catholic the months should be in Latin. There Oath ; and one Member professing the ought to be at least uniformity in the printJewish Religion took and subscribed the ing of their proceedings. There was a time Oath in the manner prescribed for such when all legal proceedings were printed Members.

in the Latin language, but a hundred A Message from Her Majesty, by Sir years ago that was changed. He knew Augustus Clifford, Gentleman Usher of the it was in the power of the Speaker to diBlack Rod

rect the alteration which he suggested

namely, the printing of the headings in " MR. SPEAKER,

English; but he was sure the right hon. “ The QUEEN commands this Honourable Gentleman would not be disposed to House to attend Her Majesty immediately, change the present system without an exin the House of Peers."

pression of the wish of the House.

MR. WALPOLE said, that the matter maica, the conspiracy in Ireland, and the was one quite within the discretion of the disease amongst the cattle in England; and, Speaker. If it were thought convenient finally, she has again informed us that a that the days of the week should be measure will be introduced for the importprinted in English instead of Latin, he ant object of an extension of the franchise. did not think any one would raise an ob- Under these circumstances, I feel that I jection to the hon. Baronet's suggestion. need not trouble the House by an appeal

MR. SPEAKER said, that in early days for a large measure of that kind indulgence the Votes were printed solely for the use which it is ever ready to extend to those of Members; but now they were published in circumstances similar to mine. I can and circulated for the information of the only state that if I had not felt that the public also. Perhaps, therefore, the use position I now hold was conferred upon of one language throughout would be me on account of the importance of the more convenient. With the concurrence great constituency which I have the of the House he should be happy to give honour to represent, I should not have directions to that effect.

been emboldened to undertake my present [And the proposed alteration was made task. from the commencement of the Session.] Her Majesty has informed us that she

has recently declared her consent to a THE QUEEN'S SPEECH FROM THE marriage between her daughter the PrinTHRONE.

cess Helena and the Prince Christian of

Schleswig-Holstein Sonderbourg - AugusMR. SPEAKER reported, That this House has, this day, attended Her Ma- Her Majesty's own personal happiness

tenburg. An event so closely touching jesty in the House of Peers, when Her cannot but excite the deepest feelings of Majesty was pleased to make, by Her the House. I am sure the words of the Chancellor, a most gracious Speech from Address I have to move will, in this rethe Throne to both Houses of Parliament; spect at least, not only be passed with of which, Mr. Speaker said, he had, for

unanimity, but will express the heartfelt greater accuracy, obtained a Copy :

wishes of the House in assuring Her MaAnd Mr. SPEAKER read it to the House. I jesty that the House joins with her in

the hope that the union may be prosper.

ous and happy. In like manner the Ad. ADDRESS TO HER MAJESTY ON HER

dress will express the feelings of the MOST GRACIOUS SPEECH.

House in assuring Her Majesty that they LORD FREDERICK CAVENDISH join with her in profound grief at_the said : Sir, I rise to move that an humble death of Her Majesty's beloved uncle, King Address be presented to Her Majesty, in Leopold, that old and experienced King reply to the gracious Speech we have just whose death has left so great a blank heard read. Seldom, if ever, has there amongst the rulers of Europe. The House been a Speech from the Throne which will also share the confidence which Her has been delivered under circumstances so Majesty states she entertains that the wisimpressive, or which has dealt with topics dom evinced by the late King of the Belof so grave an import, as that with which gians during his long reign will “ani. Her Majesty has just opened this the mate his successor, and preserve for Bel. seventh Parliament of her reign. Her gium ber independence and prosperity.' Majesty has this day, once more, disre. Her Majesty has given us the gratifying garding the painful effort to herself, and assurance that our foreign relations are at the cost of re-awakened memories too friendly and satisfactory. Inasmuch as deep for me to touch upon, re-appeared the noble Lord, to whom the Queen has amongst her people, and met them through intrusted the first place in her Councils their representatives in Parliament assem- upon the death of Lord Palmerston, has bled. In the short interval since Her been during the late Government primaMajesty summoned this Parliament she rily responsible for the conduct of foreign had lost the counsels of that old and ex- matters, it is but natural that the foreign perienced statesman whom the country policy of the present Government should has mourned as one man. In her Speech, resemble that of the late one-that policy Her Majesty has had to call the attention of which the country expressed so distinct of her Parliament to topics of so painful and emphatic an approval at the late a nature as, the recent events in Ja- elections. That it is identically the same

Sir Colman O'Loghlen

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