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HANSARD'S

PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES,

IN THE

FIRST SESSION OF THE NINETEENTH PARLIAMENT OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND

IRELAND APPOINTED TO MEET 1 FEBRUARY, 1866, IN THE TWENTYNINTH YEAR OF THE REIGN OF

HER MAJESTY QUEEN

VICTORIA.

FIRST VOLUME OF THE SESSION.

“That Her Majesty not thinking fit to HOUSE OF LORDS, be personally present here this day, had

been pleased to cause a Commission to be Thursday, February 1, 1866. issued under the Great Seal, in order to

the opening and holding of this ParliaTHE HE EIGHTEENTH PARLIAMENT of the ment.”

United Kingdom was dissolved by Then Five of the Lords Commissioners, Proclamation on the 6th day of July, namely—The LORD CHANCELLOR, The LORD 1865; by which Proclamation, also, new PRIVY SEAL (The Duke of Argyll), The Writs were ordered to be issued for calling (The Viscount Sydney), The Lord Stew

LORD CHAMBERLAIN OF THE HOUSEHOLD a new Parliament; which Writs were

ARD OF THE HOUSEHOLD (The Earl of Bessmade returnable on Tuesday the Fifteenth borough), and The LORD STANLEY OF ALDERDay of August then next.

LEY (The Postmaster General), being in

their Robes, and seated on a Form placed The Meeting of the Parliament thus between the Throne and the Woolsack, called was adjourned by Writ to the 1st commanded the Yeoman Usher of the Black day of November; thence to the 23rd day Lords Commissioners desire their imme

Rod to let the Commons know “The of November; thence to the 28th day of diate Attendance in this House, to hear the December; and, lastly, to Thursday the Commission read." 1st February; on which day it met for

Who being come;
Despatch of Business.

THE LORD CHANCELLOR said
THE PARLIAMENT was opened by
Commission.

“My Lords, and Gentlemen of the

House of Commons, The House of Peers being met,

“HER MAJESTY not thinking fit to be

present here this day in Her Royal PerThe LORD CHANCELLOR acquainted son, hath been pleased, in order to the the House,

opening and holding of this Parliament, VOL. CLXXXI. (THIRD SERIES.]

B

to cause Letters Patent to be issued under Her Great Seal, constituting us HOUSE OF COMMONS, and several other Lords therein named Her Commissioners, to do all things, in

Thursday, February 1, 1866. Her Majesty's name, on Her part ne

On which day, being the day appointed cessary to be performed in this Parliament: This will more fully appear by the by the Royal Writ for the meeting of Letters Patent themselves, which must the new Parliament, Sir Denis Le Mar.

chant, Clerk of the House of Commons, now be read."

and Thomas Erskine May, and Henry Ley, Then the said Letters Patent were read Esquires, Clerks Assistants, attending in by the Clerk. And then

the House, and the other Clerks attending

according to their duty, Charles Romilly, THE LORD CHANCELLOR said

Esquire, Clerk of the Crown in Chancery My Lords, and Gentlemen,

in Great Britain, delivered to the said "We have it in command from Her Ma- Sir Denis Le Marchant a Book, containjesty to let you know that as soon as the ing a list of the Names of the Members Members of both Houses shall have been returned to serve in this Parliament. sworn, the cause of the calling of this Parliament will be declared to you; and, it

Several of the Members repaired to

their seats. being necessary that a Speaker of the House of Commons should be first chosen, A Message was delivered by Captain it is Her Majesty's pleasure that you, Gen. Spencer Clifford, Yeoman Usher of the tlemen of the House of Commons, should Black Rod : repair to the place where you are to sit, and there proceed to the appointment of

“Gentlemen, some proper person to be your Speaker, “The Lords, authorized by virtue of and that you should present such person Her Majesty's Commission, desire the as you may choose here To-morrow, at immediate attendance of this Honourable two of the clock, for Her Majesty's Royal House in the House of Peers, to hear approbation."

the Commission read." Then the Commons withdrew.

Accordingly, the House went up to the The House was adjourned during plea- been read for opening and holding the

House of Peers;-and a Commission having bure, to unrobe.

Parliament, The Lords Commissioners diThe House was resumed.

rected the House to proceed to the Election

of a Speaker, and present him To-morrow PRAYERS.

at Two of the clock in the House of Peers,

. The Lord CHANCELLOR singly, in the for the Royal approbation. first place, took the Oath at the Table.

And the House being returned; ROLL OF THE LORDS-Garter King of

CHOICE OF A SPEAKER. Arms attending, delivered at the Table

The RIGHT HONOURABLE WILLIAM (in the usual Manner) a List of the Lords MONSELL, addressing himself to the Temporal in the First Session of the Clerk (who, standing up, pointed to him, Nineteenth Parliament of the United and then sat down), said : - Gentlemen, it Kingdom : The same was Ordered to lie is now our duty to proceed, in obedience on the Table.

to the commands of Her Majesty, to the WRITS AND RETURNS electing The Vis- exercise of our undoubted right and privicount Powerscourt a Representative Peer lege of electing a Speaker. This duty is for Ireland in the Room of the late Vis- no trivial or merely formal one, for the count Gort, deceased, with the Certificate dignity of the office is commensurate with of the Clerk of the Crown in Ireland the influence and the widely-extended annexed thereto-Delivered (on Oath), and power of the Assembly over which he is Certificate read.

to preside; and our ancestors, through Several Lords took the Oath.

many generations, have shown their sense llouse adjourned at half past Five nent men they have successively placed in

of the importance of the office by the emio'clock, till To-morrow, that Chair. Yet high and important as

Two o'clock.

were the responsibilities and duties of the some one oration of Bolingbroke, and no men who were elected to the office in such oration was to be found; and that the last century, such men, for instance, in the case of Lord Chatham it is to the as Mr. Onslow and Lord Grenville- the accidental circumstance of a gentleman of duties and responsibilities of the Speaker most powerful memory being present on in the present day are far greater even the delivery of one of his greatest orations then were those which attached to those that we owe its preservation. But now, illustrious men. In one particular, of the debates of the House, by means of a course, the duties of both are precisely the cheap and accurate press, are circulated same. It was the first and most sacred throughout every part of these kingdoms, duty in both times to preserve inviolate and indeed very much beyond their bounds. the privileges of this House, on which the These debates are the chief means of form. liberties of the people of this country de- ing the public opinion, and I may say the pend; and I think that anybody who has political education, of this country. Well, surveyed the history of past years must I need hardly remark that it is on the feel that that duty is one which requires manner in which the Speaker discharges as much watchfulness, as much care, and his duty, it is on his firmness and imparas much firmness in the Speaker of the tiality, that the completeness of these depresent day as it did in the days to which bates depends ; it is on the enforcement of I have alluded. But if we come, for in- those rules which can alone prevent majostance, to the question of private business, rities from tyrannizing over minorities, and and if we look back merely to the com- which can alone make every different mencement of the present century, we shade of political opinions heard in the shall find Mr. Wilberforce insisting more debates, that the completeness of the pothan once on the necessity of electing a litical education of the people depends. Speaker of the highest possible qualifica- There is, of course, another most importtions, on account, he said, of the enormous ant duty of the Speaker—that of preservimportance of the private business of the ing the high standard of order and of House, and the large amount of money regularity in the conduct of our debates, that was involved in the proper discharge which distinguishes this Assembly from, I of it. But the private business of this believe, every other political assembly in House, I need not remark, was in those the world. And when I refer to the condays very different from what it is now. I duct of our debates I think I only anticibelieve that the principal private business pate the feeling of every Gentleman in this then was connected with Canal Bills, House, when I speak of the loss which we which, in fifty years, amounted to only have lately sustained. Our difficulties, and £11,000,000 of money; but during the the difficulties of the Speaker, are of course last Session the private Bills presented increased by the loss of one whose large to this House involved £128,000,000 of and generous nature, loyal in friendship, money. For the proper discharge of that tolerant to opposition, was mellowed by age, most important business of the House the and by a Parliamentary experience greater assistance of eminent Committees was perhaps than that which ever belonged to called into requisition during the last Par- any former statesman. We all of us, to liament; but it must be perfectly obvious, whatever political party we belong, who I think, to every Gentleman, that it is had the honour of 'sitting in this House upon the directing mind of the Speaker-- with Lord Palmerston, all of us recognized upon his determination to arrange, in every in him that unerring instinct which enway he can, that the business should be abled him to stay the rising wave of angry carried on in a cheap and satisfactory way, controversy. We felt the mild and softenwithout sacrificing in the slightest degree ing influence in debate of his genial, kindthe influence and power of this House—it ly, and sympathetic nature, and of a good is upon him, I say, that the proper ar- humour that, under the most difficult cirrangement and discharge of that duty cumstances, never failed to exercise upon mainly depends. Or, take another in- us the happiest effects. Under these cirstance. At the time to which I have cumstances, I think myself fortunate in alluded the debates of this House did not being able to submit to you as Speaker no penetrate through any portion of the coun- new or untried man, but one who has al. try-indeed, the debates were hardly re- ready discharged the duties with honour to ported at all. I believe it is well known himself, and who has earned the respect of that Mr. Pitt expressed his desire to see every one in the House. As to those who

sat in the last Parliament I need only ap- the right hon. Gentleman, who has already peal to their memories. They all know filled the office of Speaker during two how careful he was in watching over our Parliaments with great credit, and to the privileges; they know how attentive he entire satisfaction of the House, it is not was to the private business of the House, necessary that I should add anything to and how, under his direction, its conduct what has been already so well said. I has been improved. Those who had any may, however, be allowed to say that I matters of difficulty to consult him about am confident, if the right hon. Gentleman can bear witness to his kindliness and the be re-elected, he will not fail in that great manner in which he always received them, ability with which he has hitherto disthinking nothing of trouble in giving them charged the duties of his office, that there the benefit of his most sagacious advice. will be no diminution in his watchful And as to those who did not sit in the last vigilance over the public interests, and Parliament and are now Members of this that he will evince the same strict House, if they require anything to verify impartiality that uniformly characterized the truth of the assertion which I make his presidency over our debates, while with, I am sure, the concurrence of every holding the office in former Parliaments. Member of the late Parliament--they have The office of Speaker is one which requires only to look to that most valuable addition peculiar qualifications, and demands a that has lately been made to Hansard, considerable amount of personal sacrifice, where they will see collected all the de- while at the same time it has great dignity cisions that the Speaker made during each and no small influence attached to it. I year of the late Parliament. They will am sure the right hon. Gentleman posthere find, I think, a clearness, a decision, sesses all the qualifications referred to by and a wisdom which entitled the Gentle- the right hon. Gentleman the Member for man who made those decisions to the con- Limerick ; and in seconding the Motion fidence of the House over which he pre- which has been made, I am sure the sided. If I may be permitted to refer to House will agree with me in wishing what I consider an accurate description of he may have health and strength, whether the Right Hon. John Evelyn Denison, I this Parliament may be a long or short would quote the language applied someone, adequately to discharge his peculiar what more than a hundred years ago to duties, not only with satisfaction to himhis illustrious predecessor Mr. Speaker self, but to every Member of the present Onslow as marking his peculiar qualifica- House of Commons. I beg to second the tions for the office

Motion of the right hon. Member for “A thorough knowledge of the orders and

Limerick county. methods of Parliament, a clearness and readiness MR. BRIGHT: I am well assured in delivering opinions in matters of the greatest the House will not suppose that I rise to intricacy, an impartiality in judging on all make any opposition to the proposition of occasions."

the right hon. Gentleman behind me. These were the qualifications of Mr. need were, I could say a good deal in its Speaker Onslow, and these have been favour. I was not here at the time proved to be the qualifications during two when the right hon. Gentleman below Parliaments of the right hon. Gentleman me was elected Speaker on the first occawhom I have the honour to propose to you. sion—I was not in England at the time ; It would be improper in me, and I am sure but I read of his election with great it would be painful to him, if in his pre- pleasure, and thought it about the very sence I were to say anything more of those best choice the House could have made. merits and qualifications which we all re- After eight or nine years' experience, I cognize, and I, therefore, conclude by pro- believe, with the right hon. Member for posing that the Right honourable John Limerick, that the course of the right hon. Evelyn Denison do take the Chair of this Gentleman has been marked by impartiHouse as Speaker.

ality, by dignity, and by success. In fact, EARL GROSVENOR: I rise to second without impartiality in such a position the proposal of the right hon. Gentleman there could be no dignity, and without the Member for the county of Limerick. dignity there could be no success. I thereUnder other circumstances, I should have fore give my hearty support to the profelt that the task had fallen into somewhat position which has been made. But I rise unworthy hands ; but as I understand for the purpose of making a suggestion there is no opposition to the election of with reference to a matter which I believe

The Right Hon. William Monsell

If

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