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HENRY J. HYDE, Illinois, Chairman CARLOS J. MOORHEAD, California

JOHN CONYERS, JR., Michigan F. JAMES SENSENBRENNER, JR.,

PATRICIA SCHROEDER, Colorado Wisconsin

BARNEY FRANK, Massachusetts BILL McCOLLUM, Florida

CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York GEORGE W. GEKAS, Pennsylvania

HOWARD L. BERMAN, California HOWARD COBLE, Nurth Carolina

RICK BOUCHER, Virginia LAMAR SMITH, Texas

JOHN BRYANT, Texas STEVEN SCHIFF, New Mexico

JACK REED, Rhode Island ELTON GALLEGLY, California

JERROLD NADLER, New York CHARLES T. CANADY, Florida

ROBERT C. SCOTT, Virginia BOB INGLIS, South Carolina

MELVIN L. WATT, North Carolina BOB GOODLATTE, Virginia

XAVIER BECERRA, California STEPHEN E. BUYER, Indiana

JOSÉ E. SERRANO, New York MARTIN R. HOKE, Ohio

ZOE LOFGREN, California
SONNY BONO, California

SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas
FRED HEINEMAN, North Carolina
ED BRYANT, Tennessee
STEVE CHABOT, Ohio
MICHAEL PATRICK FLANAGAN, Illinois
BOB BARR, Georgia

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BILL McCOLLUM, Florida, Chairman STEVEN SCHIFF, New Mexico

CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York STEPHEN E. BUYER, Indiana

ROBERT C. SCOTT, Virginia HOWARD COBLE, North Carolina

ZOE LOFGREN, California FRED HEINEMAN, North Carolina

SHEILA JACKSON LEE, Texas
ED BRYANT, Tennessee

MELVIN L. WATT, North Carolina
STEVE CHABOT, Ohio
BOB BARR, Georgia

Paul J. MCNULTY, Chief Counsel

GLENN R. SCHMITT, Counsel
DANIEL J. BRYANT, Assistant Counsel

TOM DIAZ, Minority Counsel

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CONTENTS

HEARING DATE

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May 3, 1995

OPENING STATEMENT

McCollum, Hon. Bill, a Representative in Congress from the State of Florida,

and chairman, Subcommittee on Crime

WITNESSES

Baker, William M., former Assistant Director, Criminal Investigation Divi-

sion, Federal Bureau of Investigation

Barr, William P., former Attorney General, U.S. Department of Justice

Freeh, Louis J., Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation

Glasser, Ira, executive director, American Civil Liberties Union

Gorelick, Jamie S., Deputy Attorney General, Department of Justice

Halpern, Thomas, associate director, Fact Finding Department, Anti-Defama-

tion League

Smith, Brent L., professor and chairman, Department of Criminal Justice,

University of Alabama
Terwilliger, George J., III, former Deputy Attorney General, Department

of Justice
Webster, William H., former Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and
former Director, Central Intelligence Agency

LETTERS, STATEMENTS, ETC., SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING
Baker, William M., former Assistant Director, Criminal Investigation Divi-

sion, Federal Bureau of Investigation: Prepared statement

Freeh, Louis J., Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation:

Information concerning theft of military explosives

Prepared statement

Glasser, Ira, executive director, American Civil Liberties Union: Prepared

statement

Gorelick, Jamie S., Deputy Attorney General, Department of Justice: Pre-

pared statement

Halpern, Thomas, associate director, Fact Finding Department, Anti-Defama-

tion League: Prepared statement

Jackson Lee, Hon. Sheila, a Representative in Congress from the State of

Texas: Prepared statement

Smith, Brent L., professor and chairman, Department of Criminal Justice,

University of Alabama: Prepared statement

Terwilliger, George J., III, former Deputy Attorney General, Department

of Justice: Prepared statement

Webster, William H., former Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and

former Director, Central Intelligence Agency: Prepared statement

APPENDIX

Appendix 1.-Statement of Hon. Steve Chabot, a Representative in Congress

from the State of Ohio

Appendix 2. Statement of Hon. Ed Bryant, a Representative in Congress

from the State of Tennessee

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Appendix 3.-Statement of Hon. Sheila Jackson Lee, a Representative in

Congress from the State of Texas
Appendix 4. Statement of Ronald K. Noble, Under Secretary of the Treasury

for Enforcement
Appendix 5.Statement of Gerald H. Goldstein, president, National Associa-

tion of Criminal Defense Lawyers Appendix 6.-Letter dated May 1, 1995, to Daniel J. Bryant, assistant cunsel, Subcommittee on Crime, from Glenn Harlan Reynolds, associate professor of law, University of Tennessee, Knoxville

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