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Boyer, W. S., division inspector, Department of the Interior, Portland,
Öreg.:

Statement of, at Seattle, Wash...
Statement of, at Portland, Oreg..

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Moore, J. A., division inspector, Department of the Interior, Salt Lake
City, Utah, regarding the State of Utah's land grants..
Murphy, John T., division inspector, Department of the Interior, Santa Fe,
N. Mex...

803, 1033

INFORMATION AND DATA FURNISHED

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Davis, Charles L., superintendent, Fort Apache Indian Reservation,

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Smith, Virgil Dodson, forest ranger, forestry department, Indian Service,

Department of the Interior, Whiteriver, Ariz...

UNITED STATES NATIONAL PARK SERVICE

Mather, Hon. Stephen T., Director, United States National Park Service,
Department of the Interior, Washington, D. C.:
Statement of, at Los Angeles, Calif..

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Cammerer, Arno B., Assistant Director, National Park Service, Depart-
ment of the Interior, Washington, D. C.:

Statement at Washington, D. C., April 23, 1925.

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National parks and monuments administered by the National Park
Service, and their relation to the forest reserves, Federal lands,
and the areas of the States in which they are located..
Policy of letting concession contracts--

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205, 210, 220

Proposed national park extensions_ -

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Special committee to study proposed national park extensions--
Statement of "national park policy" by Hon. Hubert Work, Sec-
retary of the Interior..

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Relation between the United States Forest Service and the United
States National Park Service - -

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INFORMATION AND DATA SUBMITTED

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Cattle and horses, by grades (1-40 head, 41-100 head, 101-200 head,
over 200 head)

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National park and monument lands administered by the National Park
Service in relation to national forest lands, all Federal lands, and the
land area of the States in which they are located..

201, 202

INFORMATION AND DATA SUBMITTED BY THE INDIAN SERVICE, DEPART-
MENT OF THE INTERIOR

INFORMATION AND DATA SUBMITTED BY THE UNITED STATES NATIONAL

PARK SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR

INFORMATION AND DATA SUBMITTED BY THE UNITED STATES FOREST
SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. (SEE PAGE XXXIV) ––
Cost of running 50 head of cows for one year on the Custer National
Forest, Mont., and land adjacent thereto, submitted by Julian Terrett,
cattleman, Brandenburg, Mont.....

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Cost of producing mutton and wool, submitted by E. L. Potter, professor
of animal industry, Oregon Agricultural College, Corvallis, Oreg
Cost of producing cattle on forest reserve range, submitted by F. L. Phillips,
president, Oregon Horse and Cattle Growers' Association, Baker, Oreg
Cost of producing beef cattle on the national forest ranges in eastern
Oregon, submitted by E. L. Potter, professor of animal husbandry,
Oregon Agricultural College, Corvallis, Oreg-----

Map and statistics explaining the public land problems in the State of
Idaho.....

Cost of production of lamb and wool on Idaho ranges, submitted by W. R.
Barber, chairman, committee of cost production, Idaho Wool. Growers
Association.__.

Charts and diagrams illustrating the cost of production of lamb and wool
on Idaho ranges.

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Miscellaneous statistics of public lands in the State of Colorado.__.
Miscellaneous statistics of public lands in the State of New Mexico-
Statistics regarding untaxable and taxable lands in New Mexico -
Cost of running 2,000 head of sheep in the forest reserve and in the valley,
Madera County, Calif., submitted by H. E. Bigelow, cattle and sheep
man, O'Neill, Čalif....

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Brief submitted by the Eastern Nevada Livestock Association-specific
data on grazing costs in the Nevada National Forest and on the ad-
jacent public domain and privately owned grazing lands.......
Four charts illustrating the grazing problem on the national forests in the
State of Nevada..

4199

The Results of a Survey to Determine the Cost of Producing Beef in
California, by R. L. Adams, Agricultural Experiment Station, College
of Agriculture, University of California..........

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Washington, D. C.

The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10.30 o'clock a. m., in the committee room, Capitol, Senator Robert M. Stanfield (chairman) presiding.

The CHAIRMAN. The committee will come to order. I will ask the officinal reporter to make a part of the record the resolution under which this subcommittee is sitting:

Senate Resolution 347

Resolved, That the Committee on Public Lands and Surveys, or any duly authorized subcommittee thereof, is authorized to investigate all matters relating to national forests and to the public domain and their administration, including grazing lands, forest reserves, and other reservations and lands withdrawn from entry. For the purpose of this resolution such committee or subcommittee is authorized to hold hearings and to sit and act at such places and times; to employ such experts and clerical, stenographic, and other assistants; to require by subpoena or otherwise the attendance of such witnesses and the production of such books, papers, and documents; to administer such oaths and to take such testimony and make such expenditures as it deems advisable. The cost of stenographic service to report such bearings shall not be in excess of 25 cents per hundred words. The expenses of such committee or subcommittee shall be paid from the contingent fund of the Senate. The committee or subcommittee shall make a final report to the Senate as to its findings at the beginning of the first regular session of the Sixty-ninth Congress, together with recommendations for such legislation

as it deems necessary.

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The CHAIRMAN. Furthermore, I have prepared a statement as to purposes of this subcommittee:

The provisions of Senate resolution 347 place no limit upon the matters relating to the public domain and the national forests. The Scope of investigations by the Committee on Public Lands into committee has power to investigate, and to recommend legislation in connection with, any or all phases of the utilization or disposition of the lands themselves, the forage growing thereon, and the timber, mineral, or other resources in or upon these areas.

The unreserved and unappropriated public domain now consists of 185,933,272 acres. The present area of the national forests is 136,652,805 acres. The percentage which these lands bear to the areas of the States in which they are located is shown on Table I attached to this statement.

the States of Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, NeThe public domain and national forest lands are located chiefly in vada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. A

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