been assured by Rice that he was all right. He told me to try and have a talk with Doniphan, and to let him know in the morning if I learned anything of importance. On the morning of Wednesday, September 6th, I met Doniphan at the southeast corner of the Capitol, as he came up New Jersey avenue, on his way to the courthouse. We walked around to the west side and he asked me the time. I told him it was early to get to the court-house and proposed that we sit down and have a talk. We then sat down on the Senate steps, west front, and I asked him what he thought of Ingersoll's speech. He replied that it was having big effect, and if Dorsey proposed to do anything now is the time. He said himself and Martin had been taking notes together through the trial, and that he (Doniphan) could control him. He then went on to say that he was hard pressed, or hard up, not having drawn any money for some time. I told him that the party I had spoken to him about and that I wanted to introduce to him on that Sunday was still out of town, but that I could possibly arrange it to get hold of a little money for him and arrange things satisfactorily, and told him all he had to do was to say the word. He said, "Well, wait and see what turns up to-day, and I will see you this evening." We then walked down the avenue. At Four-and-a-half street he crossed the avenue toward the Colonization Building and I kept straight down to Seventh street. At about 12 o'clock on the same day Dorsey was standing by the curb in front of Hagerty's and called me to him. He asked me if I had seen Doniphan. I told him I had, and gave him the conversation between Doniphan and myself, in substance. Dorsey made some remark about Rice not being here, and then asked me if I could fix this. I replied, if you have got a friend who will act for you I will bring him and Doniphan together tonight. He replied, impatiently, "God damn it, no; there are enough in this already; you must do it, Shaw; all may depend on him. I will stand by you as long as you live." I replied, “Well, I will see him to-night, and you had better arrange matters at once." He told me to meet him at 3 o'clock at Chamberlain's. I went there and passed through the front room into the back room. Dorsey was sitting in the corner by the door between the two rooms and beckoned to me. He handed me $250— two $100 greenbacks, one $20 national note, and three $10 silver certificates. The rooms were in confusion on account of preparations to move, the building having been sold or rented to the Young Men's Christian Association. Dorsey remarked, "Don't make any mistake; I will take care of you." At our previous interview in the morning Dorsey told me that I could give Doniphan a small amount for immediate use, and that he (Dorsey) would stand by any further arrangement that I made with Doniphan. Dorsey further said that he had plenty of influence, and could get all the places in the Departments he wanted, and that I could guarantee Doniphan a good position in addition to any money he might receive; that he (Dorsey) had got Rice's brother a place in the Pension Bureau. Rice had previously shown me a letter written by Cominissioner Dudley to Senator Dorsey in effect that he (Dudley) would be gratified to appoint his (Dorsey's) friend Rice to a position in his Bureau, and to send him to him, so that he could talk with him personally and ascertain his qualifications and grade him. Rice was appointed by Dudley.

On the same evening (Wednesday, the 6th of September) I went down to the music at the east front of the Capitol, expecting to see Doniphan. As he did not come I sent my boy to his house on New Jersey avenue to tell him I was there. He sent up word that he would be up at about 7 o'clock. After the music was over I left and went down in the city, and have no knowledge as to whether Doniphan kept the appointment or not.

On Thursday morning, the 7th of September, I met him (Doniphan) again on his way to the court-house. I asked him why he did not keep his appointment, and he replied that things looked bad; that Dickson had been offered $25,000, and had reported it to the court, and that there was likely to be hell when the court met. I then left him, and did not see him again until Friday morning (September 8th) by the Lincoln Monument just as he was going into the court-house. I passed him, neither of us stopping. I remarked, "Do the best you can; I will guarantee everything to be all right." He answered back, "I will see how they stand" (meaning the jury). I also passed Holnead in company with Olcott; called him to me for a moment; told him to be careful of Doniphan, and not to commit himself to any one on the strength of what might have been said to him. After dinner, about 4 o'clock, I came down the street. A man by the name of Byrne came up to me on the avenue between Four-and-a-half and Sixth streets; told me he had just come from my house, and that A. B. Williams wanted to see me at once. I went around to his (Williams's) office, and he told me that Doniphan had “squealed," and that he (Williams) wanted me to go at once with him to Chamberlain's. I told him I had heard nothing, and asked him for particulars, which he gave me. He then handed me two car tickets, an told me to take the avenue cars, and that he would go up on the F-street line and meet me at Chamberlain's, which was done. We went into Chamberlain's, walked back to a small room in the rear where there was a bar and got cigars. Williams asked me several questions about the matter, and I told him I had nothing to say to

any one except Senator Dorsey. We walked out into the front room, where everything was still in confusion. A large man, whom I supposed to be Mr. Chamberlain, apologized for the condition of things in the rooms. In a few moments Dorsey came in. Williams walked back into the rear, and Dorsey says, "Now, Shaw, what are you going to do?" I told him I was going to stand; that I wasn't the "squealing" kind. Dorsey said, "Well, what are you going to say?" I said my idea is to make light of it and to say that I was merely sounding Doniphan and had no money, and no idea of bribing him. He then remarked, "Then you didn't succeed in getting the money into his hands." I replied "No," and Dorsey replied, "That is good; now I want you to go out and tell Colonel Ingersoll." I went to the carriage standing at the curb and said to Colonel Ingersoll, "This whole thing is a put-up job, and there is nothing in it so far as Dorsey is concerned." Ingersoll replied, "Of course not; I know that, my boy." I then went back into the house and had a further talk with Dorsey, and showed him a letter which I had received that morning from William P. Rice, of which the following is a copy:

[Globe Hotel, Syracuse, N. Y., Dickinson, Austin & Bacon, proprietors.]

F. C. SHAW, Esq. :

SEPTEMBER 4, 1882.

MY DEAR SIR: I have been here several days-go farther North to-night. Will be in Washington probably next Saturday evening-by Monday morning, sure, and will arrange your matters. Hope everything is right as I left it.

Sincerely yours,

WM. P. RICE. A line here will reach me Friday morning; let me hear from you by return mail.

Dorsey told me not to answer the letter and to keep away from Rice, adding, “You keep the money you have got on account of anything that he (Rice) may owe you; keep away from him. I will settle with him." He then called Williams and told him that he (Williams) was to act as my attorney; that he would procure bail if necessary and do everything essential for my defense, and at the same time instructed me to contide fully in Williams and be governed by his advice and counsel. Since that time Williams has been my counsel and I have acted in accordance with his instructions.

On the day previous to Dorsey's departure from the city (early in October and after the trial) I went to Dorsey's house, No. 1403 K street NW., by appointment. He then and there told me that Williams would have charge of all of the details of my case in the event I was indicted, and that he would arrange matters with him to provide against expenses, &c. Dorsey further said that I could have Colonel Ingersoll, William A. Cook, Davidge, or all of them if necessary. He said that Cook was under pay from him at that time and that he expected Davidge to take the place of McSweeny. This was the last interview I had with Dorsey until meeting him at the court-house during the progress of the second trial.

F. C. SHAW.

Sworn and subscribed before me this 28th day of February, A. D. 1884. [SEAL.]

WARREN C. STONE,

Notary Public.

WASHINGTON, D. C., July 3, 1884.

HENRY D. LYMAN recalled and further examined.

By the CHAIRMAN:

Q. Mr. William P. Wood and Mr. William A. Cook were before this committee a few days ago, and Mr. Cook then denied that he had ever written a letter recommending the allowance of an extra month's pay to John A. Walsh upon route 40101, Mr. Woodward having testified that such a letter had been written and subsequently withdrawn and destroyed by Mr. Cook. Mr. Wood stated that a clerk by the name of Green had, at his request and as a personal favor to him, brought to him from the post-office files the jacket covering certain papers, and that he had taken that jacket to Mr. Totten, who was counsel for some of the star-route defendants, in order to show what action the Depart

ment had taken with regard to the remission of fines and the allowance of an extra month's pay to Mr. Walsh, and he testified that that jacket at that time did not contain the papers that they were looking for; from which he inferred that those papers had been destroyed or suppressed. Please state what action the Department did take in the matter of the allowance to Walsh, and whether such a letter as Mr. Woodward testified to, written or indorsed by Mr. Cook, was ever exhibited to you.

The WITNESS. As I understand you, Mr. Cook's denial is a denial of the statement that he ever joined with Mr. Gibson in recommending the allowance of one month's extra pay to Mr. Walsh.

The CHAIRMAN. Yes, that is it; the denial having reference to some recommendation which was said to have been made in writing.

The WITNESS. Such a letter was written. After the application by Mr. Walsh for a month's extra pay was refused, he brought suit in the Court of Claims for the amount, and testimony was taken before Mr. R. S. Boswell, a commissioner. In my testimony before the commis sioner I made no allusion to that letter, because I forgot it. Mr. Gibson subsequently testified before the commissioner, and my recollection is that he stated that he and Mr. Cook had united in a letter recommending the allowance of one month's extra pay to Mr. Walsh. As soon as I read Mr. Gibson's testimony it refreshed my recollection and brought the letter clearly back to my mind. Mr. Gibson was asked whether that letter should not be on file, and he said it ought to be; which was very proper, of course. I then made a search on the files to find the letter, but was unsuccessful. I had my clerks search for it, but they could not find it, and I thought it very remarkable that they could not find that letter. Some weeks afterwards Mr. Woodward came into the city from Connecticut, and we were discussing this Walsh case in the Court of Claims, and I said to him, "By the way, there was a letter written by Gibson and Cook recommending this extra month's pay; I distinctly remember it, but I have made search on the files and cannot find it. It is a very singular thing that it has disappeared." Mr. Woodward at once said, "I can tell you all about that letter. One day Mr. Cook asked me to go up stairs and get that letter. I went up stairs and got it and took it down to the room, and while we were there talking Mr. Cook read it and leisurely tore it up into small pieces and threw them into the waste basket. I did not think anything of it at the time, as we were talking of other matters; but I recollect his tearing up the letter. I said, "Mr. Woodward, that letter was a part of the files of the Department, and ought not to have been destroyed." He said, "That is so. I did not think of that at the time I gave it to Mr. Cook." I distinctly recollect the letter. I think I am not in error as to what Mr. Gibson testified to in the Walsh case in the Court of Claims. That testimony is now on file in the Court ofClaims, and can be examined if necessary.

Mr. GIBSON. I think it is not filed. I think the stenographer gave it to Mr. Wilson, one of the counsel for the star-route defendants. The WITNESs. I think you are in error there.

Mr. GIBSON. Mr. Wilson told me he had the testimony. That is all I know about it.

The WITNESS. Mr. Boswell told me that he had, with the acquiescence of Mr. Walsh, shown the testimony to Mr. Wilson, but that it was now filed in the Court of Claims.

In relation to the testimony of Mr. Wood about the disappearance of a

paper from a remission case on route 40101, I presume he refers to a paper which was indorsed by Mr. Gibson and Mr. Woodward and Assistant Attorney-General Freeman, recommending the remission of certain fines and deductions which had been imposed upon Mr. Walsh as a contractor upon that route. Mr. Wood's testimony as to the absence of that paper from the jacket is correct. After the remission in that case was made, I took that paper out of the jacket and placed it in my safe, for the reason that I feared somebody might abstract it. It was the only paper we had to show why the remission had been made, and I took extra precautions to see that it was secure. I feared that some person might abstract it from the files. Mr. Wood says that Mr. Green did take the jacket to one of the counsel for the defense, and I think that fact goes to show that my action in taking the paper out of the jacket and taking extra precautions to preserve it was amply justified.

By the CHAIRMAN:

Q. It was for the purpose of preserving the paper that you took it out of the jacket?-A. For the purpose of preserving it, and as Mr. Green took the balance of the papers in that jacket to one of the counsel for the defense and only discovered the absence of that paper in that way, it shows, I think, that my apprehensions and precautions were well founded.

By Mr. GIBSON :

Q. Do you recollect that I asked you to look up that paper, as well as two affidavits made by Walsh ?-A. No; I do not recollect that.

Q. And afterwards got them from you?-A. I cannot recall it. It is probably one of those things that happened, but I do not recall it. By the CHAIRMAN:

Q. At any rate, whether that was suggested by Mr. Gibson or not, it was done.-A. Yes, sir. I will tell you something further that occurred about that paper. We subsequently called for Mr. Green's resignation, for reasons which I do not think it necessary to state here. We thought he was incompetent for the place, and I think the testimony of Mr. Wood amply justifies us in calling for Mr. Green's resignation, although we did not at that time know of the facts as Mr. Wood states them. In the trial of the Dorsey case a subpoena was sent up by the court calling for that jacket and all the papers. In the mean time I had had a certified copy made of the papers that I had taken out. I had done that as an additional precaution. I had put the certified copies in the jacket and placed the originals in my safe, and when the papers were called for by the court I withdrew the copies fromthe jacket and put the originals back in it, and sent them down. Since they went down to court those papers have disappeared in some mysterious manner, and I have had to have another certified copy made in the place of them.

Q. Then the originals are not now on file in the Department ?—A. I cannot find them anywhere. So you see Mr. Wood was correct in his statement that that paper was out of the jacket.

Adjourned.

WASHINGTON, D. C., July 3, 1884.

GEORGE M. SWEENEY SWorn and examined.

By the CHAIRMAN:

Question. Please state your residence and occupation.-Answer. I reside in Washington. I am chief clerk of the contract office of the Post-Office Department.

Q. How long have you been employed in the Department?—A. I was appointed in April, 1875. I resigned in July, 1882. I was reappointed in October, 1882, and have been there ever since.

Q. There has been some question before this committee and some conflict of testimony as to whether there was ever filed in the PostOffice Department a letter or communication signed by Messrs. William A. Cook and A. M. Gibson, recommending the allowance of a month's extra pay to John A. Walsh as a contractor on route 40101. Do you know anything about any such paper?-A. I have seen a paper purporting to be signed by William A. Cook and I think by A. M. Gibson. I am certain that it purported to be signed by Mr. Cook. I think it was addressed to H. D. Lyman, Acting Assistant Postmaster-General, or to the Second Assistant Postmaster-General, a paper recommending such allowance.

Q. About what time was it that you saw that paper?-A. That was in 1881 or 1882. I think in 1881, in the summer time, but I cannot fix the exact date. I should say that it was certainly after the 21st day of May, 1881, and 1 think it was before cold weather, but I am not cer tain about that.

Q. Do you know whether that paper is now on file in the Department?-A. I do not know of my own knowledge, but I have been told that it is not on file.

Q. If it has disappeared from the files, you do not know anything about the circumstances of its disappearance ?-A. Not of my personal knowledge.

Adjourned.