Central Committee On Radio Facilities Radio Engineering Mr. Moss. This is the highway chart. There are all of these separate committees. There are 100,000 tank trucks in the United States, 125,000 drivers. All of these committees from accident studies down to corrosion are dealing with the subject of highway transportation. The CHAIRMAN. These committees that were in that chart are subcommittees of this Central Committee on Highway Transportation? Mr. Moss. Yes, sir. Now, we have the same thing on pipelines. The CHAIRMAN. Which, in turn, is part of the Central Committee on Transportation? Mr. Moss. No; that was the first The CHAIRMAN. The division of transportation. Of what larger committee is the central committee? Mr. Moss. There is a general committee over all these central committees that tie all these central committees together. There are five of these central committees dealing with separate fields. I have already shown railroads, I have already shown highways. I am doing this rather fast. I am now showing pipelines, 194,000 miles of pipelines in the country. These are the committees dealing with the pipeline problem. The CHAIRMAN. This is all part of the division of transportation of the institute? Mr. Moss. The division of transportation of the American Petroleum Institute. The CHAIRMAN. That is only one part of the Petroleum Institute? Mr. Moss. That is right. That is just transportation. The CHAIRMAN. What are some of the other divisions of the institute? Mr. Moss. The basic ones are production, having to do with the production of oil, the refining division having to do with the refining or purification of that oil, the marketing division having to do with the marketing of that oil, and transportation. Now, I will take a little more time on these committees because these two here, pipeline accounting and engineers-accountants valuation are the committees which we are interested in. This one has to with construction practices. We have a bulletin on that. The next one developed the standard on welding which is used all over the United States. The next two are corrosion. Pipelines corrode inside and outside. The next ones have to do with hydraulics, pipelines and fittings, electrical standards, automation, pressure piping, pipeline crossings under railroads and highways, pollution, where they break and pollute the rivers, general information, safety, radio and communications, personnel training, pipeline accounting, engineers-accountants valuation, lease tank practices, where they pick it up from the producers, dispatching, filtering to get the corrosion out that takes place inside of the pipelines, evaporation loss, handling special products, storage tanks and metering. Mr. KEATING. You mean those are all subcommittees of this central committee? Mr. Moss. These are all subcommittees. Mr. KEATING. Those aren't just functions of the central committee? Mr. Moss. No, sir; separate committees with separate personnel and separate chairmen. Mr. KEATING. You have more committes than the Congress? Mr. Moss. Yes, sir; I believe that is true. Five hundred and fifty tank ships, 2,100 oil barges, one-half of the merchant marine in the United States. Here are the committees that work with the Government on that, the international load line, cargo measurement, electrical equipment on these ships can be very dangerous, a source of accidents, elevated temperature cargoes which we were asked by the Government to work on, fire protection, safety, lifesaving, gas hazards, liquefied petroleum gas, liquefied natural gas. There is something that is of tremendous importance to backward countries because there is the possibility of liquefying natural gas, dropping it to minue 258 and carrying it allover the world in ships. We were asked by the Government to put that committee together to work on it. Petrochemicals, oil pollution abatement, static and stray currents, these are corrosion committees. Corrosion costs these tankers $40 million a year. These are the three corrosion committees that take care of that work. This is the last one. This is radio, which is my problem too. The oil and gas industries use 40,000 transmitter licenses, the largest block of radio equipment in the country. If you would strike out the Bell Telephone System and the Western Union Telegraph, cut them out completely in time of war, this system would function for the armed services. They already know that and they have already made arrangements to use it. The CHAIRMAN. It strikes me you are sort of a government of yourself, aren't you? Mr. Moss. I don't know. It is very farflung. The CHAIRMAN. How many employees has the institute got? Mr. Moss. I have four. The CHAIRMAN. I don't mean you, how many have they got in toto? Mr. Moss. I think that the total is about 300, 300 individuals on the payroll. The CHAIRMAN. But you operate through the personnel of oil companies? Mr. Moss. We operate through committees. The whole thing is The CHAIRMAN. Are those committees composed of representatives of the oil companies? Mr. Moss. That's right, yes, sir. The CHAIRMAN. And I take it those committees in turn employ personnel too, do they not? Mr. Moss. No, not the committees. The CHAIRMAN. The committees do not? Mr. Moss. No, they do all the work themselves. Of these committees I have shown you, and I am now down to the end of them, there are about 70 that don't even have secretaries, except 3 of them. The chairmen do the work. These are the radio committees used under this radio organization. The CHAIRMAN. As a matter of information, has the institute ever been checked on by any congressional committee? Mr. Moss. I guess so. They have appeared before them many, many The CHAIRMAN. They have appeared, but I mean has any congressional committee made an investigation of the activities as you outlined them here this afternoon in a most interesting fashion? Mr. Moss. I think back some years ago, but it was before my time, Mr. Chairman, they had the organization and all of the organization charts. They went into the whole thing, and this work is simply representative of the problem that the industry faces. Now this transportation is regulated by 400,000 words in the statutes, and 350,000 words in regulations written under those statutes, and having the force of law. Mr. KEATING. What statute is that? Mr. Moss. All of the statutes relating to transportation-400,000 words in the law and 350,000 words in the regulations written under that law. Now, most of that is for safety. Most of this work is for safety, and as a result, as an evidence of the accomplishment, the safety work in moving petroleum has resulted in a safety rate which is substantially better than industry generally, notwithstanding the fact that the Government has designated our products as dangerous. This group will move 1 million tons of petroleum per day-the transportation people in this country-1 million tons of petroleum every 24 hours 1,000 miles. That is 1 billion ton-miles of transportation every day. The CHAIRMAN. Does that include operations outside of the country? Mr. Moss. No, sir; we have nothing to do with the traffic over these transportation facilities. The CHAIRMAN. You spoke of marine transportation. You have control over tankers, haven't you? Mr. Moss. Well, to the extent that they are American-flag tankers. There are very few of those running offshore, but to the extent that they do we are dealing with their problems; but I wish to make it very clear that we deal with nothing having to do with traffic. The CHAIRMAN. Having to do with what? Mr. Moss. Traffic, what is moving, where it moves, whose it is. We are dealing with the facility only, and particularly with the safety of it. Mr. KEATING. You don't have any foreign corporations as members? Mr. Moss. No, sir. I think that would only be through some affiliate. We have none as members. Mr. KEATING. Some foreign company wholly owned by an American member as a subsidiary might be in turn a member of your organization. Mr. Moss. I have been at this work in Washington for about 11 years, since this division has been formed. These records go back about a quarter of a century, so I had to go back and read them. I was entirely unfamiliar with them. My problem here in Washington requires I spend one-third of my time answering questions of the Government, particularly of the Armed Forces. We are so flooded with questions that we can hardly keep up with it. You will be interested in the nature of the questions. The CHAIRMAN. Suppose you go back to your statement, Mr. Moss. Mr. KEATING. You are probably going to get some more questions now. Mr. Moss. I didn't hear you. Mr. KEATING. Another way of putting it, you haven't heard anything yet. Mr. Moss. 7. Completion of initial valuation of pipelines: The first fieldwork in pipeline valuation began in 1935 and was completed in about a year. On November 11, 1936, Col. H. T. Klein, Chairman, Committee on Pipeline Valuation, was able to report to the central Committee on Pipeline Transportation that through cooperation of his committee with the Interstate Commerce Commission, very substantial saving over the Commisison's estimates for the cost of the valuation work to the Government had been realized. Colonel Klein stated that the Commission's original estimate of the cost of the pipeline valuation work was $5 per $1,000 of valuation or $3,820,688.54, whereas the actual cost had been $0.92 per $1,000 of valuation or $706,459.57, which was only 18.49 percent of the original estimate. Mr. Chairman, I would like to add this personal observation, and I would add it if I were under oath. I have found nothing in the 28 days' study of this record, records going back a quarter of a century which I consider in any way reflects on these committees or on the work of the American Petroleum Institute in cooperating with the Interstate Commerce Commission as required by law. Thank you, sir. The CHAIRMAN. I want to thank you for your cooperation and we shall go into more detail on your statement. Mr. Moss. Thank you, sir. The CHAIRMAN. Mr. Singman? Mr. SINGMAN. Mr. Moss, as has been established earlier, you are the director of the division of transportation of the American Petroleum Institute; is that correct? Mr. Moss. I am the director; yes, sir. Mr. SINGMAN. And you have indicated that under the division of transportation are these committees that are set forth in the charts you have submitted for the record; is that correct? Mr. Moss. That is correct. Mr. SINGMAN. What art the functions of the division of transportation, if any, aside from coordinating the activities of those committees and subcommittees? Mr. Moss. Their principal function-you mean now the division staff? Mr. SINGMAN. The division itself, that's right, you as director and your staff? Mr. Moss. The principal function is to coordinate the work of the committees, to be certain that they take steps to see that they are representative, to publish their minutes and their reports, to exchange records between them, to receive requests from the Government of the United States or from the States for information, principally technical in dealing with safety, and refer it to the proper committee chairman for his thoughts or action. In other words, bring the Government on the one hand in contact with the best expert we have on the other, work of that general nature. Mr. SINGMAN. Are you familiar, sir, with this blue-backed volume entitled "American Petroleum Institute-Division of Transportation-Register of Committees," January 1957? Mr. Moss. Yes, sir; I am. I think it is the one I gave you when you were up there. |