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myself unworthy of a seat here if I could pander to tion. Why not have this resolution in such shape preference to other Democrats? I will do so, I my party predilections—as strong as they are-if that when the committee come to the conclusion iell my friends, because they are the organs of the I could so forget myself as to make a contract that they cannot make a reasonable contract with Democratic party. Is that plain enough? Is it that would be unreasonable, or give a compensa- Donelson & Armstrong, that they shall make it understood? I beg my friend from North Carotion to enrich my political friends at the sacrifice with some other printer without coming back to lina to let by-gones be by-gones. I will not raise of justice or of the rights of my country. What the House ?
Banquo's ghost here. I will not put the cup to would that committee do? That committee would Mr. GORMAN. I apprehend that the gentle his lips. I am willing to stand side by side with call upon Blair & Rives, as one of the members of man's interrogation does not amount to anything. my honorable friend from North Carolina to do that committee has already done upon Mr. Rives, It results only in this, that if we cannot make a battle with him for the great Democratic princiand inquire, What did you get for the printing of contract what are we then to do? The gentleman ples of my country. I do not care whether be the census in 1842 and 1843? Answer, $137,000. goes into a supposition that is not at all within voted for the compromise or not. I am not going We have had that to start upon. We would then the range of probability:
to put the test to his lips, if he sees proper now call upon Gales & Seaton, Gideon & Co., and Mr. Mr. HEBARD. It is within the range of a to march under the banner of the Democratic party Rives and others, to learn what diminution of business transaction.
as it shall be laid down by the Baltimore Convenprices had occurred since that time.
Mr. GORMAN. I will not retort upon the tion. I ask him, a veteran in the cause of DeMr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. Will the gen- | gentleman, and say as to what he would do, be- mocracy, when he comes before the country, not to teman allow me to ask him a question ?
cause I will not enier into that sort of discussion. tell the people that he is going to prescribe rules Mr. GORMAN. With great pleasure.
I shall confine myself to the facts; and, as gentle- for the party, which, if not adopted, he will sepMr. STEPHENS. I understand the gentleman men have been kind enough to listen to what I have arate himself from them. I ask him to leave a litto state that he had called upon Mr. Rives to learn said, I beg them to hear me further upon the facts tle to the generous confidence of friends with what he would do this job for, and to be governed l of the matter. It has been said here that Donel- whom he has been associated all his life-a little by his price.
son & Armstrong are partisan editors. True; to the confidence of those friends who hold the Mr. GORMAN. By all means. We would
that is to be given to country dear-who hold the perpetuation of our certainly give the contract to Donelson & Arm- some one, and I ask any gentleman upon that side institutions above all price. He should act with strong without an understanding of the former of the House, if he had the power, would he not them, and because of the declarations of an indiprices.
give it to his political friends who would do it for vidual who has thought proper to be his antagonist Mr. STEPHENS. Then another question: an equally reasonable price?
upon a political principle, he certainly is not going Why does the gentleman come in here and ask the
to stifle his voice in the cause of his country. House in advance to say that we shall give it to tion". Do I understand the chairman of the com
Mr. VENABLE. I trust that no man here Messrs. Donelson & Armstrong?
mittee on Printing to say the public printer, so will suppose that I am deserting principles, which Mr. GORMAN. I was just coming to that called, is unable to perform this printing? I have professed for more than thirty years, bepoint, which I hope to eliminate to the gentle- Mr. GORMAN. I have made no such decla- cause of my dissatisfaction with any individual. man's entire satisfaction. I stated that we had ration.
My principles are independent of individuals. consulted with printers in reference to the price of Mr. FLORENCE. That he is not entitled to They are founded upon the convictions of my unprinting. This has been all talked over in the it under his contract?
derstanding, the approbation of my conscience, committee, and I am now but recapitulating. Mr. GORMAN. Under the law.
and the cordial acceptance of my heart. From my, Why did we put Donelson & Armstrong's names Mr. FLORENCE. I want to understand the intercourse with my gallant friend, I shall be proud in here? I will tell my friend: For the very same difference between awarding patronage to a Demo- to act with him at all times; but I shall never act reason that if his party were in power, they crat with a newspaper and a Democrat without a either with or without my friends, under circumwould put the names of Gales & Seaton, or Gideon newspaper. I cannot understand why a constitu- stances by which I shall forfeit my self-respect. & Co., there.
ent of mine-and I make that declaration here- Mr. GÓRMAN. I have no fears that my honMr. STEPHENS. I have no party.
who is a Democrat, and by whose vote, in part, I orable friend will ever be called upon to act with Mr. GORMAN. The gentleman says he has hold a seat in this House, should not be as well any other organization than that great and glono party.
considered as a Democrat with a newspaper? rious Democratic pariy, that has borne the banMr. STANTON, of Kentucky. I desire sim- Several MEMBERS. That is the point.
ner of their country always. They are always ply to ask the gentleman from Indiana if it is not Mr. GORMAN. He should, by all manner of for their country. I am proud to say to-day, behis recollection, and whether it is not the recollec
fore God and my country, that I am for that tion of the House, that the preparatory printing Mr. FLORENCE. I will beg the gentleman's country right, but in the last resort, right or of the forms necessary for the taking of the cen- permission to say another word.
wrong. I hope that I may not find my honorable sus was done at the “ Republic office," and if, Mr. GORMAN. I cannot yield further. friend, who has differed with us upon certain when we had that subject under consideration, it Mr. FLORENCE. I will go behind no questions, which have agitated the country from did not appear to this House that we could not alter
centre to circumference during the last Congress, the schedules in a single particular, because the The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Penn- going up to the Washington Union and saying, "I Secretary of the Interior had caused this prelimi- || sylvania is not in order, as the gentleman from hold you responsible for your opinions--you shall nary printing to be done before we had passed | Indiana refuses to yield the floor.
not share in the patronage which I can bestow, bethe bill? While we were engaged in passing that Mr. GORMAN. My friend must excuse me, cause you differ with me upon these subjects.” bill, I made repeated efforts, and other gentlemen but I cannot yield.
My friend, when he says that he will proscribe made repeated' efforts, to change those schedules; Mr. FLORENCE. Only one word. [Laugh- such opinions, could only expect to be proscribed but we could not do it. We could not get a particu- ter.]
in turn. I hope that no such necessity may lar description of hemp growing in my State in- Mr. GORMAN. The gentleman appeals so cluded in the schedule. We had been frustrated strongly that I cannot resist. I yield.
Mr. VENABLE. Will the gentleman allow by the action of the Secretary of the Interior, who Mr. FLORENCE. I do not trouble the House me to say, that I proposed to open this subject to had given the job to the partisan editors of the much. I am a listener, a learner, a pupil here; free bidding everywhere. I said that they had no ti Republic.
but, sir, my whole political life will bear me out claims upon me individually. I do not proscribe Mr. GORMAN. The gentleman has fully ex- in the declaration that I go behind no man in them, but I open the bidding to the printers of the plained that matter, and I need not repeat it. I awarding what patronage I can by my personal United States, so that we may have a fair and free will tell my honorable friend from Georgia that influence and vote to Democrats.
competition. party has something to do with this matter. It Mr. GORMAN. That is exactly right. (Laugh- Mr. GORMAN. This resolution proposes to would be dishonorable in me to disguise it. Were ter.) I am willing that that sentiment shall be im- leave this matter to the committee. It is not a I in power I would give what patronage was to bodied in my speech. I ask my friends upon the question to be left to Donelson & Armstrong. be given fairly and properly to my political friends | opposite side of the House to remember that at the It is a question which our friends are called upon instead of to my political enemies.
extra session of Congress in 1842–'43 a resolution to leave to the committee which you have conMr. HEBARD. I want to make a simple in- was introduced into one of the branches of the stituted in this House. We call upon you to leave quiry. I understand the gentleman from Indiana Government in these words:
the reasonableness and propriety of that contract to state that the resolution only authorizes the Resolved, That Blair & Rives be dismissed as the public to the committee. Are you willing to do it? Have committee to make a contract with Donelson & printer or printers of the Senate.
you confidence in their integrity and purpose of Armstrong. In case they make no reasonable It was passed by a Whig party vote, and stands
character to discharge that duty? contract I would ask him what they then inten- upon your records as a living witness coming up Mr. EVANS. I will ask the gentleman before doing?
in judgment against you. That is admitted. This he is done to tell this House why it is improper Mr. GORMAN. I will answer. The contract
is not a parallel case to that at all. This I say to to let this printing by contract, and why it is the with Donelson & Armstrong for the printing of my Democratic friends is a simple question wheiher
contract system is now to be abandoned? The this matter is to be made upon such terms as the
we shall give it to our friends or not. That is all || instance the gentleman gave was in 1841, before the committee shall deem reasonable and proper, and
there is in it. What more do we propose ? contract system was entered into. Now, I want, not what Donelson & Armstrong shall deem rea- “The work to be executed under the direction of the the gentleman to state how much this printing sonable. That is my answer.
Secretary of the Interior, and to be paid for as it progresses will cost. I am informed that it will cost about
by the head of the Census Bureau, with power to abate Mr. HEBARD. That does not answer my from the amount stipulated if the work, when executed,
million of dollars. question. After the committee shall have come shall prove deficient or below the standard which may be
Mr. GORMAN, I am authorized to say, upon to their conclusion of what price will be reason- agreed upon.”
the authority of the very best printers, that it will able, and Messrs. Donelson & Armstrong will not I ask my friends what more is there in this not cost half of $500,000. These diversions upon accept the terms proposed, what do they then transaction? Donelson & Armstrong are to do it, I this occasion have led me off from some of the propose to do?
and it is complained because their names are in- facts in this case. Mr. GORMAN. There is no other remedy serted here. ' I tell you, if that contract can be Mr. EVANS. Speak to the contract. then but to report the fact to the House.
given them, so far as my influence and vote go, Mr. GORMAN. I was about to speak upon Mr. HEBÅRD. I want to ask another ques. Il they shall have it. Why will I select them in the question of the contract system. It is known
to that gentleman, as he remarked yesterday upon agree with the honorable gentleman from Virginia, Mr. GORMAN. Not at all. The gentleman the floor, that the contract system had led io diffi- [Mr. Bocock-supposing that upon the subject wants to pursuade us, that we tie our own hands culty, and frauds upon the country enormous in of State-righis he does not concur fully in some of by putting in those potent words, “ Donelson & their character. The contract system lets in every the details, I say to the gentlemen that we intend || Armstrong;” that is the bugbear. individual to come in and bid as low as possi- to put no poison in their cups.
Mr. BELL. You ask the House to tie your ble, and their ruling motive seems to have been, Mr. NABERS. The remark I intend to sub-hands for you. that after a while they were to go before Congress mit is not at all intended to interfere with the prog
Mr. GORMAN. I turned to the gentlemen on and ask that they might be released from an ress of this discussion, nor is it intended to indi- the other side of the House, and asked them if, in onerous bargain. Such is the experience-such cate that I feel injured by not being permitted to giving this job, they had to choose between a pois the language of my friend from Maryland, (Mr. address the House this morning. I wish simply litical friend and a political foe-occupying equal Evans.] He used that language then, and I pre- to know if there is any new question before the positions in society, of equal ability and integrily, sume he will use it again. I apprehend that ihis House differing from the one upon which I had and willing to take it at the same reasonable prices, system of letting this work out by contract to the the floor this morning! (Laughter.]
they would not prefer to give it to their political lowest bidder, is the ground-work of the most stu- The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from friend? The gentleman answered no. pendous system of fraud ever perpetrated upon Mississippi call the gentleman from Indiana (Mr.
Mr. BELL. That was not the question. the people of this country. GORMAN) to order?
Mr. GORMAN. I answered that the gentleMr. EVANS. Not if you furnish them with Mr. NABERS. No-I only asked for inform- man must certainly be sui generis. I did not mean paper. ation. [Laughter.]
anything personal. Mr. GORMAN. If you furnish them with Mr. GORMAN, (resuming.) I was simply Mr. BELL. Oh, I did not understand you so. paper, type, and presses, it will not do. Every saying that objections had been urged to Donelson Mr. GORMAN Well, tben, allow me to proCommittee on Printing have found at the bottom & Armstrong. That subject was my text. Why? | ceed. This resolution—to come back to it againof this contract system all sorts of private under- The honorable gentleman from North Carolina has been ordered to be referred to the Committee standings and bargains for the purpose of fleecing | [Mr. VENABLE) had asked, why? With regard of the Whole on the state of the Union. When the Government. The Committee on Printing to certain questions-certain political principles, I it gets there all these matters about the question have found this in their experience now.
was giving as a reason why they ought not to of State rights and Free-Soil, and the Massachuthis matter be reconsidered? Why refer it to the have weight. I am in order, I believe; why? be- setts coalition, will be brought up; the House will Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union? cause I am directing nay remarks to the point be kept in a furor for ten or fifteen days, and What do you want to discuss? Do my friends who whether the names of Donelson & Armstrong when this resolution gets out, I expect the mildiffer with me upon the subject of this contract should be put at the head of the resolution. But iennium will come. want to get up a war between us upon the com- I am done upon the subject upon which I was Mr. HALL, (interrupting.) I do not know promise measures, whether they are proper and speaking. I leave that to the magnanimity of that I perfectly understand the resolution which is right? I do pray you, avert such an evil. I am men who have never failed to show it when they | under discussion. I do understand it to propose frank to say, that such a calamity to the Demo- have been put to the test; I leave that to the mag- to make the action of the committee definite with cratic party should be avoided; and the man who nanimity of men who are called upon on this occa- regard to this printing. Now, I ask the gentleman undertakes to arraign any one here for the pur-sion to regard the admonition which I have in an from Indiana if he will accept the amendment pose of making an additional sore, which is now humble way suggested to them,“ Peace, be still." | which I hold in my hand, and wbich is in these in a fair way of being healed, is stabbing the party Do I propose to Northern men to put any cup to words: that gives him power. I can say to my friends their lips? Do I require them to say that every Provided, That no contract made by said committee shall who voted against these measures, that I feel line, sentence, syllable, comma and semi-colon of be of any binding force or effect until the same is reported proud of their association. I feel that I went fur- the fugitive slave law is righı? Do I require my
to and approved of by both Houses of Congress. ther upon these great Southern questions than any honorable friend from North Carolina (Mr. Ven- Mr. GORMAN, The Committee on Printing man north of Mason and Dixon's line. I feel I
ABLE] to say that every line and syllable of the are to make a contract under the law of 1846. can say to gentlemen who are not with us upon Texas boundary bill is right. I do not require That law provides that it shall be a part of their the compromise measures, “ Peace, be still!"
any such thing. I do require acquiescence in | duty to attend to this portion of the public busiDoes that voice-does that warning come from a these measures; I desire peaceable acquiescence in
When the committee have made a contract Democrat who has wavered ? Does that voice them.
with Donelson & Armstrong, they will do just come from a Democrat who has ever yet thrown I come back now to the question of this print- as they have done in the case of Mr. Hamilion, a fire-brand into the midst of his Southern | ing; and I appeal to the gentlemen upon the other and in other cases. I have before me the contract friends? Does that warning come from one who side of the House to know whether, if they held with Trenholm & Belt; the committee reported it has ever turned to the right or left upon the great the power and had this contract to give, and the to this House, and it is marked “ House of Repeternal principles of non-intervention? Then I say , choice was left to them, at the same fair and rea
resentatives-Miscellaneous Documents, No. 10." to them that the prolongation of this discussion sonable rates, they would not give it to their po- | The contract is laid before the House; everybody will run my friend from North Carolina, (Mr. | litical friends?
reads it; everybody knows what it is; and if that VENABLE,) 'my friend from Virginia, (Mr. Bo- Mr. BELL. No, not without competition. contract has upon its face an unreasonable rate cock,) and my friend from Mississippi, (Mr. Mr. GORMAN. Ah! then there is a gentle- of compensation, it is within the province of this Nabers,) into a dilemma. I hope if they love the man sui generis. He belongs to a different race House at any moment to arraign that contract union, harmony, and organization of that great of men from any that I have ever yet seen. He and to know the causes-the why and the whereparty that brought them into power, that they will must belong to some party that I have never yet fore. heed the voice of warning.
heard of. (Laughter.] He would not prefer a Mr. HALL. The gentleman does not underMr. BOCOCK. I ask, what I do not often ask political friend-one possessing all the elements of stand me. I do not want to get into any difficulty upon this floor, that the gentleman will yield me qualification—to a political opponent! God save with any contractors to do the printing of this the floor for one moment. I ask this because of
me from such a political partisan as that! He House. I want the contract, when it is entered my very sincere respect and regard for the gentle is an Ishmaelite. '[Laughter.] He must have his into, to bind both us and them. I do not want man from Indiana, (Mr. GorMAN.) I do not often hand against everybody and everybody's hand, | any afterclaps, any quarrels, any difficulties of ask any gentleman who is speaking to allow me I apprehend, must be turned against him. misunderstandings; and I prefer, therefore, that the privilege of introducing one word while he is In conclusion, allow me to say to this House the action of this committee shall come to us for speaking. While the gentleman from Indiana is that I ask my friends to reconsider this question. approval. Let us have no more of these discus
Mr. BELL. Will the gentleman allow me to
sions, whether we shall set aside a contract after one subject, I ask him if he does not know ihat make an explanation ?
we have entered into it. there are other subjects upon which the Demo- Mr. GORMAN. Why, yes, with pleasure, if
Mr. GORMAN. I do understand the gentle cratic party are divided? I ask if he does not feel it is not too long.
man's amendment, and I now say that if the in that loyal and honest heart of his, that there is Mr. BELL. I will not make it long.
Speaker decides that I have a right to accept that as much need of harmony upon those other ques- Mr. GORMAN. I want to know, first, if the amendmeat, I will most cheerfully do it. I have tions as in relation to the compromise? And I
gentleman is the one who answered me just now? not the slightest objection that our contract shall be ask him, if he expects us here to say Peace, when Mr. BELL. I am the man. (Laughter.] reported to this House, and that the House shall his friends—I do not say him-proclaim peace Mr. GORMAN. I am glad to see you, sir. confirm or rejectit. My friend from Missouri must only upon one subject, and give us war to the [Renewed laughter.]
see, however, that the House will have to repeal the knife upon other vital subjects? I ask him if it Mr. BELL. I understood the gentleman to law of 1846, before we can do that. That law left will do to tell me that the friends of the Wash- | make an appeal to the members on this side of the it to the Committee on Printing. Still I have no ington Union will give us peace upon the compro- House, knowing, at the same time, that if he kept kind of objection to the amendment. I will accept mise, when they are giving us war, and war to the floor under the permission of the other gentle-it-if it is in my power to do so-if it will recon. the knife, upon the subject of State-rights? Mr. GORMAN. I apprehend that more evi
man (Mr. SKELTON) who lets it out, they would cile the feelings of any individual. But, why ask deuce has been given by the honorable gentleman
have no opportunity to reply. I may have been me to accept it unless it will do that? from Virginia, (Mr. Bocock,) and that it is the petition," but I wish it to be understood, that in it will reconcile me to the resolution, out of order in saying "No, not without com
Mr. HALL. I will say to the gentleman, that very thing to be avoided. Where is the Demo- saying that, I meant that I would not place in Mr. HAVEN,(Mr. GORMAN yielding the floor.) crat here who does not see a monster exhibiting jeopardy the interests of my country to favor an
I desire to make a suggestion or two, lest there itself here, a hydra-headed monsier, which is individual of my own party, by giving an exorbi- should be a misapprehension as to the views that stinging the very heart of the Democratic party! tant price for the work. I would do as any pru- some portion, at least, of the Committee on PrintWhere is there an individual who has witnessed dent individual would. the assault of my gallant friend from Virginia,
ing entertain upon the subject of the extent of the
Mr. GORMAN. I presume the gentleman authority conferred upon that committee by the (Mr. Bocock,) who will not agree with me in would.
joint resolution of 1846. saying, "Peace, be still.” Supposing that one of Mr. BELL. Now, I understand that by this I understand that it is the opinion of the Joint our friends, who conducts a newspaper, does not resolution you tie your own hands.
Committee on Printing, that the printing of these
census returns does not come within the contract tomb of the Capulets at once. In obedience to
PETITIONS, &c. with the public printer. That being so, then, I what I consider to be a pledge to the gentleman The following petitions, memorials, &c., were presented submit to the House that that committee have no from New Jersey, (Mr. SKELTON,) I now move
under the rule, and referred to the appropriate committees : Inore power over this subject than they have over the previous question, though I will withdraw it By Mr. STUART: Several petitions of citizens of Laany other subject that may interest the members if any gentleman desires to ask a question for in
porte, Indiana, and Berrien county, Michigan, for the imof the House. They are a committee to take care formation upon the subject.
provement of the harbor at New Buffalo, in said State of
Michigan. of that portion of the printing which is provided Mr. STANTON, of Tennessee. I desire to By Mr. GROW: The petition of citizens of Susquefor under the joint resolution of 1846—of that print- ask the genileman a question.
hannah county, Pennsylvania, for a mail routc from Susing, and that only. Now the gentleman from Mr. GORMAN. 'Is it for information upon
quehannah depôt, on the New York and Eric railroad, to
Lenox, in said county. Indiana says-and'I concur with him in that re- this subject? If it is, I will withdraw the call for By Mr. BABCOCK: The petition of merchants, shipspeci—that by the law under which this census was the previous question for the gentleman.
owners, millers, and others, of the city of Oswego, New taken, provision was made after providing for Mr. STANTON. It is. I desire to ask the York, praying Congress to make an appropriation to rebuild
the foundation of the light house at Oswego. the printing of the preliminary blanks--that all the gentleman this question: If the House refuse to
Also, the petition of citizens of Oswego county, New other printing was thereafter to be executed as pass this resolution, I want to know when and
York, praying that the military bounty land law of 1830 Congress should direct. Now that Printing Com- where we may expect to have this printing done? may be exter:ded to the widows of officers and soldiers enmittee, as I understand it, was raised for the pur- Mr. GORMAN. I will answer the gentleman.
titled to the benefits of said law, whether married or unmarpose of seeing that such printing as came within
ried at the time of application. If the House refuse to pass this resolution, the
By Mr. CHANDLER: The memorial of merchants, shipthe joint resolution of 1846, was executed accord- committee will then be at sea without chart or owners, underwriters, and other citizens of Philadelphia, ing to the terms of that joint resolution, and when, compass.
interested in the commerce of that port, regionstrating therefore, it is decided that the printing of this Mr. CARTTER. I desire to inquire whether
against the repeal or impairing the efficiency of the existing census does not come within the terms of the the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. GORMAN) has
law relative to expenses of proceedings in admiralty against
ships and versels, and asking for additional and definite resolution, I say it withdraws from the operation not yielded the floor?
legislation upon the subject. of the power of the committee the entire control The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Indiana By Mr. BÓWNE: The petition of citizens of New York of this business. These are the views which I is entitled to the floor, and is on the floor.
and New Jersey, for a lighi-house on Mill Reef.
By Mr. ALLEN, oliinois: The petition of J. Parkinentertain upon the subject; and while I have the Mr. GORMAN. If any gentleman desires to son and 80 other citizens of Marion couty, State of foor I will say further, with the permission of the ask any question for information upon the sub- Mlinois, praying that the mails may not be carried upon the gentleman from Indiana, that it is a little difficult ject of the public printing, I will yield the floor for
Sabbath day, for me to understand precisely, by what right this that purpose.
By Mr. JONES, of Pennsylvania: The memorial of
Hutchison & Co. and 41 others, citizens of the United resolution is here. It has never been referred to Mr. CARTTER. I desire to ask the gentle
States, creditors of Texas, praying for the enactment of a the Joint Committee on Printing by this House. man if he will be kind enough to withdraw the law to secure the payment of their claims on Texas at the It is true that the other branch of Congress did previous question. The gentleman made a long Treasury of the United States. refer a similar resolution to the joint committee speech, and closes up by moving the previous ques
On motion by Mr. SCUDDER, it was
Ordered, That the petition of Elijah Swift and others, of for consideration; and it is also true that the joint tion.
Massachusetts, asking an appropriation for the preservation committee did act upon that resolution, and report The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Indi- of the barbor of Great Hoods Hole, and the accompanying it back to the other branch of Congress. But no ana has withdrawn his call for the previous ques
papers, be taken from the files and referred to the Commit
tee on Commerce. such resolution, emanating from this House, has tion, but he is still entitled to the floor.
Also, that the petitions of William C. Starbuck and others, been referred to the committee. The resolution Mr. ORR. I desire to inquire of the gentleman Josiah Bradlee and others, Charles Holden and others, Enos has originated there, without its having been com- from Indiana whether, if the previous question Kent and others, Thomas Nickerson and others, Ezra Phinmitted to them by this House. be seconded, and the motion of the gentleman
ney and others, William V. Kent and others, and Robert I make these remarks, not because I desire to from New Jersey (Mr. Skelton) to reconsider
B. Williams and others, citizens of Massachusetts, asking
for an appropriation for a breakwater at Great Point, Nandiscuss this question in its political bearings, in the vote by which this resolution has been referred tucket, be taken from the files and referred to the Comunitany way or shape, but because I desire the House to the Committee of the Whole on the state of tee on Commerce. to understand that when I have come to the con- | the Union prevails, if we do not go back then clusion, in my own mind, that this census print- under the operation of the previous question ?
IN SENATE. ing does not come within the contract of the pub- || And I desire to inquire further, whether if, when
WEDNESDAY, January 28, 1852. lic printer, and is not, therefore, within the joint we go back under the operation of the previous resolution of 1846, I hold that it is not, conse- question, any amendment can be offered to the
Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. C. M. BUTLER. quently, within the control of the Committee on resolution?
EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS. Printing. Mr. GORMAN. I will say this, I call the The PRESIDENT
tem. laid before the SenMr. GORMAN. I spoke upon that subject previous question.
ate a communication from the War Department, before. I stated that a resolution precisely simi- Mr. CARTTER. I move to lay the motion to
transmitting, in compliance with the resolution of lar to this, to give the census printing to Donelson reconsider upon the table.
the Senate of the 26th instant, a copy of a letter & Armstrong, provided they will contract for it on Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. Upon that from Brigadier General Talcott to Colonel B. Hureasonable and proper terms, was submitted to the motion I ask the yeas and nays.
dated November 1, 1850; which was read, and Joint Committee on Printing by one of the coördi- The yeas and nays were ordered, and the
ques- referred to the Committee on Military Affairs. nate branches of the Government-the Senate. tion being taken, there were-yeas 134, nays, 51; The members of that committee, on the part of as follows:
PETITIONS. the House, coöperated in recommending that that YEAS-Messrs. Abercrombie, Aiken, Allison, John Ap
Mr. MANGUM presented the memorial of resolution should be reported back to the Senate, pleton, William Appleton, Ashe, Averett, Babcock, Bar- William Newbold, assistant marshal for taking with a recommendation that it do pass. What
rere, Bell, Bibighaus, Bocock, Bowie, Bowne, Bragg, Bren- the Seventh Census in Pasquotank County, North next? The Senate postponed action on the sub- tom. Bremen Brooks, CocopheBrown Buxon wapbciabatt Carolina, praying additional compensation; which ject for two weeks. I then proposed to the joint ter, Chandler, Chastain, Clark, Clingman, Colcock, Conger,
was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. committee that we should take up the resolution Cottman, Cullom, Curtis, Dimmick, Dockery, Doty, Dun- Mr. HUNTER presented the petitions of Ann and report it to the House, and if the House can, Durkee, Eastman, Edgerton, Evans, Faulkner, Fick- Robinson, William K. Jennings, and Aphia W. should pass it, it would expedite this printing. Now, what shall we do in order to act in good
try, Giddings, Gilmore, Goodenow, Goodrich, Grey, Grow, Jennings, the legal representatives of William
Harper, Isham G. Harris, Sampson W. Harris, Haws, Bean, praying compensation out of the fund profaith with both parties? We have reported to
Hascall, Haven, Hebard, Holladay, Horsford, Houston, vided by the treaty of Ghent for negroes carried this House the same resolution, which, with a
John W. Howe, Thomas Y. How, Jenkins, Andrew John- off by the British troops in the war of 1812; slight variation, was reported to the Seriate, and son, James Johnson, John Johnson, Daniel T. Jones, G.
which were referred to the Committee on Foreign W. Jones, J. Glancy Jones, George G. King, Preston King, we ask you to pass it. Why? It is to stop the Kuhns, Kurtz, Mann, Humphrey Marshall, Martin, McDon
Relations. clamor--it is to stop the cry that the public print.
ald, McNair, Meacham, Meade, Miller, Millson, Miner, Mr. HAMLIN presented the memorial of asing is not going on. All we ask is, that you shall Molony, John Moore, Morehead, Morrison, Murphy, New
sistant marshals for taking the Seventh Census in give into the hands of the committee the power to
ton, Orr, Outlaw, Andrew Parker, Samuel W. Parker,
Piscataquis county, Maine, praying additional make a contract with Donelson & Armstrong, if Sackett, Schermerhorn, Schoolcraft, Schoonmaker, Scud- compensation. it can be done. If it cannot be done, there is an der, Smart, Stanly, Benjamin Stanton, Alexander H.
Ordered, That it lie on the table. end of it. We ask that, and that is all we ask.
Stephens, Stone, Strother, Sweetser, Taylor, Benjamin
Thompson, Townshend, Tuck, Venable, Walbridge, Wal- Mr. SHIELDS presented the petition of the Will you give it? If you will, I see no necessity lace, Walsh, Ward, Watkins, Welch, Wells, Addison Mayor and members of the Board of Aldermen for speaking upon the subject of States-rights, se- White, Alexander White, Williams, Woodward, and and the Board of Common Council, of the city of cession, Free-Soilism, or anything else here upon
Yates--131. this question. Gentlemen want to know why we
NAYS-Messrs. Charles Allen, Thomas H. Bayly, Washington, praying that that city may be made
Breckenridge, Busby, Churchwell, Cobb, Dawsoni, Dean, a port of entry; which was referred to the Compropose to give the job to Donelson & Armstrong. Disney, Dunham, Freeman, Thomas J. D. Fuller, Gaylord, mittee on Commerce. It is because we believe they will be able to do it Gorman, Green, Hall, Hamilton, Hart, Hendricks, Henni,
Mr. DODGE, of Iowa, presented the petition as well as any one else, and as low as anybody
Hibbard, Hillyer, Howard, Ingersoll, Letcher, Lockhart,
Mason, McLanahan, McMullin, Murray, Nabers, Olds, of Charles Mason, county judge of Des Moines else, and we prefer to give it to them, because they
Penn, Polk, Price, Robbins, Robinson, Savage, Scurry, are political friends. I presume I shall not be
county, Iowa, praying the aid of the United States David L. Seymour, Origen S. Seymour, Skelton, Freder
in the construction of a court-house and jail for misunderstood in this. Now, I ask that you will ick P. Stanton, Richard H. Stanton, Abraham P. Stevens,
that county; which was referred to the Committee sustain this committee, constituted by your order,
St. Martin, Stratton, Stuart, George W. Tboinpson, Wil-
on the Judiciary.
IRISH EXILED PATRIOTS. and I ask you to reconsider the vote by which it table.
Mr. CASS. Mr. President, I hold in my hand has been referred to the Committee of the Whole Mr. POLK. It is now the usual hour. I move a copy of the resolutions adopted at one of the on the state of the Union, where every gentleman | that the House adjourn.
most respectable meetings ever assembled at Dewho has had experience in this House knows The motion prevailed, and the House adjourned troit, and at which the Governor of the State prethat if it goes, you might as well consign it to the till to-morrow at twelve o'clock.
sided, on the subject of the resolution pending
before us, for the intercession of this Government | spirit, and presented in the most unexception the resolution, that it shall not require a formal with that of England, to obtain the release of Smith | able language, and it leaves the British Gor- communication to the British Government, but O'Brien and the other exiled Irish patrieis, now ernment free to act its own pleasure, without shall be merely the expression of the deep interest suffering for political offences in a British penal giving us the slightest offence, 'should the resuit the American people feel in the fate of these exiles, colony, in the Southern ocean. I fully concur be unsuccessful. How such a course can be and our hope, that they will be speedily restored with the sentiments expressed in these resolutions, construed into improper interference, it passes to the condition of freemen. which I think have been prepared with good feel- | my powers of comprehension to perceive, as it did This course would require no formal diplomatic ing and good judgment, and in the measure it is two years ago, to understand how the refusal to correspondence, though it would make part of our desired the Government should adopt. For my make an appropriation to maintain a Minister at legislative history, testifying the feelings of the own part, I see no political objections, no indeli- the Court of Vienna could be an unjustifiable in people, and would become known to the Britisha cacy even in such a course, not of interference, terference with the Austrian Goverriment. And Government, through their Minister or through in my view, but of merciful suggestion; a just tri-aster puzzling myself upon the subject, time and our own, in an informal way, as is often the case, bute to the advancing opinions of the age. again, I am just as much in the dark as ever. It and also by the public journals of the day, and
How much nobler is the friendly expression of is best to let a little common sense into our diplo- the moral effect would be as great as a more direc! interest and hope like this,conceived and commu- matic questions, and not be too sensitive as to the application. I cannot believe that the British nicated in a proper spirit of deference and respect expression of our sentiments ouder proper circum- Cabinet would hesitate to yield to a wish of this for another power, than the angry remonstrances stances. Depend upon it, sir, we shall best pre- country so unexceptionably expressed. which crowd the pages of diplomatic history in serve our own self-respect by such a course, and Mr. President, is is surprising obat the sympaevery age of this world! Such a proceeding is an secure the respect of the world.
thy of the whole American people is so generally intercourse of good offices honorable to the mo- If this request is granted, it would be an act that awakened by misfortunes, as deplorable as these tives of the country adopting it, and to the coun- would produce a most favorable effect upon the cases preseni, and which appeal so powerfully to try receiving it, if received, as | trust this would people of this country; and if refused, as I have the best feelings of our nature, and in an especial be, with the feelings of confidence and regard i said, there the matter would end, unless, indeed, manner to that large class of our fellow-citizens, which dictate our conduct. Of course it imposes | the British Government should so far sorget what who trace their origin to Ireland ? Wherever there no obligations upon either of the parties, though is due to itself and to us, as to give a rude answer, is political oppression in the world, the heart of an certainly its favorable issue could not fail to not justified by the circumstances, nor the manner Irishman is with the oppressed, and his head and strengthen the ties of amity between England and of the application. I have no belief, sir, that such hands too, when the suffering is within his reach.
The Government of that country well knows a gratuitous folly would be committed; and even Ireland has furnished, and yet furnishes, a great that this is not a case where our application is if it were, we should find some means of not being portion of our emigrant population, whose worth uncalled-for, or which originates in unworthy left in debt upon the occasion. National dignity and talent and industry have added largely to the motives. It knows well, that a very considerable is a good thing, but let us not be everlastingly power and resources of the country. The victims portion of our population is connected with Ire- afraid that ours is in danger.
of harsh and hard laws at home, the emigrant land, either by birth or descent, and that many of As to the encouragement that this step would from that unfortunate land, knows how to value them are connected also by the ties of blood with give to similar applications by other powers to us,
liberty here; and I believe it would be a phenomethese unfortunate exiles. They sympathize deeply, it does not occasion me the slighiest concern. non to find an Irishman who was not ardently as do indeed the whole American people, with the | When such a case occurs here, and a like interest attached to the Constitution and union of these hard fate of these banished patriots-a feeling, I is felt elsewhere, and from like circumstunces,
States. have no doubt, which prevails to a considerable and an intercession is made for a similar object, And this attachment they have sealed with their extent in England, and one which animates the and in unexceptionable language, I trust it will be blood, upon every battle-field from Quebec to MexEnglish people, and which they never fail to dis-received in the best feeling; ayê, and granted, too, ico; defending with unsurpussed valor the stand. play when such occurrences take place in other | unless there are far stronger objections to the ard of our country, from Montgomery, who fell countries.
measure than there appears to me to be in the almost under the Arctic Circle, to my friend from It is said, sir, that this proceeding will open the present instance. If there could be any fear, Illinois, (Mr. Shields,] who poured out his blood way for similar applications, and that it is an im- | which I am satisfied there would not be, of the like water beneath the northern tropic, and gave proper interference with another Government, and release of these banished sufferers, lest they might me a proof of regard, rarely offered or received it has also been feared that we might be embar- again become dangerous, let them be sent to this by man, by sending me the expression of his rassed hereafter by the very precedent, applied to great asylum of the oppressed of all nations, 1 kind recollection, when he and the friends around ourselves, which it is now sought to establish. where we shall be ready to receive them, and ad him thought the hand of death was upon him,
Mr. President, a great change has taken place mir them to all the privileges of our political sys- and from which condition his recovery was little in the opinions of the world, on the subject of po- tem as soon as the provisions of our Constitution less than miraculous. He who has no sympathy litical offences. They nowhere carry with them will permit. If England hails their departure, we
with such citizens, nor part in their sympathies, reproach or shame. They violate indeed exist- | should welcome their arrival.
has few feelings in common with me. ing laws, but they generally originate in the most One word, sir, on the subject of precedents,
As the resolution is already before us, I move praiseworthy motives, and are pursued at the whose appearance I anticipate on this occasion, as that these proceedings lie upon the table and be hazard of every earthly good, as Washington and an old enemy, always upon the alert to enforce the printed. a host of other illustrious men in ancient and in stand-still policy. For once let us put a foot down
Mr. BERRIEN. Let the resolutions be read. modern days pursued their patriotic enterprises. without first peering carefully about to ascertain The Secretary read them as follows: Nothing more distinctly marks the improved | if a foot was ever placed in ihat precise spot be.
Whereas, in the year 1848, when the people of Ireland condition of public feeling than the abolition in all fore. Let us yield to the generous sympathy of felt deeply aggrieved for their political and social condition, constitutional governments of those atrocious and our nature. Let us obey the inspirations of the and alleged that that condition was in a great mea: ure revolting punishments, once inexorably inflicted age, and try, where the trial is proper, " to set
owing to the administrative policy of the Government of
England towards that country : by power upon patriotism. To feel and express the prisoner free.". If the world 'must have precommiseration for such victims is now acknowl
And whereas Messrs. O'Brien, Mitchell, Meagher, cedents, let us make one; they have been made O'Donohue, Martin, O Dougherty, and others, deemed that edged to be consistent with every principle of the before us; and this will be a precedent for peace,
a resort to revolutionary measures was the only remedy most rigid inorality. They are recognized as and not for war; for mercy, and not for vengeance
presented by which to redress the grievances complained of: being unfortunate, but not vicious. Indeed, they
And whereas their error, if they did ert, was one of opinnor oppression; a precedent for intercession be- ion as to the best mode to be adopted to remedy the existing are often noble men, as are those whose case en
tween Governments, in favor of suffering human- evils and relieve the sufferings of the people of Ireland gages our attention, and who deserve the kind inity. Let us set an example, if there never was
which sufferings and the necessity for relief were adnitted terest of the world, both from their motives and one before.
by the Government of England: their character, and also from the position, once There have been examples enough of folly and
And whereas the means adopted by these political oflend
ers against the existing authorities of the British Empire high, but now low, to which they have fallen, and cruelty in national intercommunications. We resulted in their condemnation and banishment to a penal in consequence of an effort made not for them- shall lose, neither in position nor character, by
colony: selves, but for their country. It cannot be--there endeavoring to furnish some of wisdom and mer
And whereas we deeply deplore their present sufferings, is not the slightest danger of it—that such a na
and anxiously desire their release and restoration to their cy. If success follows the effort it would be a families and to society : tional application will ever be made in any case but | brighter page in our history, than is supplied by And whereas a resolution is now pending before the Conin one like this, which is as far from moral guilt the bloodiest and most renowned of our battle. gress of the United States in the following words, to wit: as innocence is from crime. Let no one fear that fields. I shall vote for the original resolution,
“Be it resolved, &c., That in consideration of the general this example will ever be used or abused for the
sympathy felt by the people of the United States for Smith even if it is not modified, because, though the O'Brien, Thomas F. Meagher, and their iminediale assopurpose of intermeddling with the ordinary crim- President has declined to enter into a diplomatic cintes, (exiled Irisli patriots,) and the warm sympatvira inal proceedings of other powers. The vicious correspondence with the British Government upon
felt by the countrymen of these distinguished sufferers, who will lind no commiseration for their punishment, i. this subject, on an application recently made to
have become citizens of the United States, the President nor will any friendly hand be stretched forth to
of the United States be requested to authorize a corre him, I do not understand that he would have any spondence to be opened with the Government of her Majesaid them. And even in this case, however much objections to such a measure, if Congress should ty, the Queen of Great Britain and Ireland, appealing to our interest might have been excited, it would have probably led to no action, had we not found take upon itself the responsibility of inviting his
the magnanimity of the British Government and people in action; and I feel assured that the President would
their behalf, and respeetfully requesting the liberation of a justification in the circumstances I have stated.
these personages from their present confinement, with an be gratified to see the accomplishment of the obThere is, therefore, no ground to apprehend that
offer to receive them upon the hospitable shores of the Uniject, by means, that might appear to him proper, nations might become embarrassed by such appli- as he expressed upon that occasion, the sympa
Resolved, That we deeply sympathize with Messrs. cations, or that they would lead to ill will or misthies, that an American citizen and an American
O'Brien, Mitchell, Meagher, and their associates in exile, understanding. As to improper interference, it
and heartily respond to the sentiments contained in, and the Chief Magistrate ought to feel, under such cir- | objects contemplated by, the foregoing resolution, and reappears to me an entire misconstruction of the
cumstances. But, sir, there is a mode, in which spectfully recommend to our Sepators and Representatives term to apply it to a case like this. It is not in- this expression of national feeling may be ob
in the Congress of the United States, that they each give terference at all; it is intercession. It is a simple tained, and this difficulty and others too, that have
to the same an earnest, cordial, and efficient support. request, made from the best motives in the best li been urged, avoided, and that is, by so modifying
Resolved, That we do not assume for our Government the right to dictate to, or in any wise interfere with, the ac
tion of any foreign power, in relation to its domestic policy, I sponsive ear to the interposition which we propose matter; but I have been perfectly willing to join but as a member of the great family of nations, desirous of cultivaung in the hearts of goveroments a care for the hap
to make or not, it will have its moral effeci, and it with others to approach the British Governnient piness of individuals, a solicitude for their improvement,
will reach and cheer the hearts of these victims of in such a way as to procure their pardon. I beand a sympathy for their sufferings, we wish to express in oppression in their lonely and desolate place of lieve it might have been done, or that something this form our painful sense of the condition of the individ- exile. Sir, it will do that if it does nothing else; might have been done towards it; but I cannot vals in question, and ask such respect for our application
and it will teach another lession-it will teach the countenance a proceeding of this kind, which I as may comport with the dignity and policy of Great Britain, and the humane and liberal sentiment of the age, be
oppressed the world over that the nations of the think must result in utter failure. hieving that the advancernent of civilization and christian earth have exploded and are exploding the notions Mr. SHIELDS. I do not mean to speak on this morality has induced an international sympathy which we that corporations, great and small, have no souls, subject at present; but I do wish to say to iny friend feel fully justifies such a procedure on our part. Resolred, That the strength of the British Empire and
and that they have learned that the men of which from South Carolina that I feel there is great force the present tranquillity of Ireland, forbid the idea that these they are composed have souls, and have hearts, in the remarks he has made this morning. I feel political offenders cannot be set at liberty with safety to and that they do not forget the promptings which that the object cannot be accomplished by an atthe Government, and that when the public security or the spring from those hearts; that they assume the tack upon the British Government. My object in retorination of the sufferer is not the purpose or the apparent tendency of punislıment, but the reflection of terror
responsibilities which belong to them as Senators. rising at this time was to ask the Senate to take and the grautication of resentment, it only tends to exas
Having said thus much I leave the subject, with up the resolution which is now on the table, in reperate its vieiims, corrupt its authors, and deaden the moral the earnest hope that the Senate will consent to gard to this subject, in order that some future day sense of the community which it affects. act favorably in relation to it.
may be assigned for its consideration. I leave Resolred, That the exercise of this act of clemency and
Mr. BUTLER. I would like to say a single merey on the part of the British Government, in obedience
that day at the discretion of the Senate; but I to the request of America, would tend to efface the asperity word in connection with this subject.
wish the resolution to be taken up at as early a which became interwoven with the early bistory of the The PRESIDENT. There is no question be- day as possible. When it shall be taken up I Republic, and establish more plainly the relations of' ainity
fore the Senate, but by unanimous consent the wish to say a few words on this subject. I would and peace, which now so happily exist between the two Governments. Senator can proceed.
state that I wish the resolution to be taken up for Resolved, That a copy of the foregoing preamble and res
Mr. BUTLER. There are many reasons the purpose of offering an amendment so as to olutions be forwarded by the president of this meeting to which would induce me to take an active part for avoid making it a diplomatic measure. My obthe President of the United States, the President of the UniIrd States Senate, and each of our Senators in that body,
the release and pardon of these patriots who have ject is so to modify the resolution as to avoid the and the Speaker of the House of Representatives, and each
been made so much the subject of eloquent eulogy. possibility of a repulse on the part of the English of our Representatives in that body.
Permit me to say, however, that if the object of Government. I should be very sorry to see this Mr. HALE. I do not propose to detain the gentlemen be to procure the release and pardon of Government make an application, officially, to the Senate but a moment; but I rise to express my
John Mitchell and Wm. Smith O'Brien, I believe British Government, which that Government cordial approbation and assent to every word they are taking the very worst course that could would be authorized to treat with contempt. As which has so eloquently fallen from the lips of | be suggested to accomplish the object. If a prop- a citizen of this country, I should be one of the the bonorable Senator from Michigan. It is er application were to be made to the British last to seek to place this Government in that conrarely that I allow myself to throw a considera- | Queen, by an appeal to the British Minister, er dition. My object, therefore, is to put the resolution personal to myself upon this body, or upon in some other mode that would be likely to be ac- tion into such a form as that, while, indirectly, it any body which I have the honor to address; || ceptable, as an appeal to her clemency, perhaps will accomplish the object, as I trust it will, we but upon this occasion I hope the Senate will in. the objece might be attained. But if in applying shall at the same time preserve the dignity of this dulge me for a moment, if I suggest a single fact for the pardon of these patriots, you use the lan- Government under all circumstances, and give no that may excuse somewhat the warmth which I guage of reproach to the British Government, you earthly or reasonable cause of offence whatever to feel on this subject.
might as well expect to release a victim with his the British Government. When the resolution Sir, my mother, many years dead, was the only hand in the wolf's mouth, by irritating the wolf. shall be called up. at some future day, I hope child of an Irish exile. His name was O'Brien. If you expect to attain the object contemplated- to be able to put it into that shape; or if I should And I should feel, if in this place, or in any place, and I am sincerely disposed to take every reason- not be able to accomplish it, I hope the honorable whenever and wherever a word of sympathy is able measure to effect it-it is not to be done by Senator from Michigan, who has already made the to be expressed for an Irish exile and an O'Brien, reproaching the British Government.
suggestion, and other Senators more experienced that I should be false to every pulsation of my There are many considerations which would in- than I am, will aid me in the accomplishment of heart, to every drop of blood ihat flows in these duce me to take a special interest in the fate of that end. veins, and to that which no man can be false to, these gentlemen, particularly in the fate of one of
Mr. CASS. I would suggest to the Senator the memory of a deceased mother, if I did not ex- them. I allude to Mr. Mitchell. I have thought
that he had better lay his amendment on the tapress it. No, sir; let whatever consequences, per- that something might be done, but not in this way ble, and let it be printed. sonal or political, stand in the way, so long as the -not by making it a subject of political discus- Mr. SHIELDS. I would like to have as'early blood of my mother flows in my veins, and so sion-(by that course we might cheer the Irish a day as possible fixed for the consideration of the long as I remember who I am, and what I am, and rouse them, and obtain their applause and
resolution. whatever words of sympathy, of counsel, or of support, for ought I know, but we shall not sub- Mr. BADGER. Why not to-morrow? encouragement, an Irish exile can have, that he serve the end contemplated of procuring the par- Mr. SHIELDS,(after consultation with several shall have from me.
don and release of these prisoners)—for, by that Senators.) I will say Monday, as I believe there These are the reasons and the motives which course, we shall defeat the very object in view. is no special business before the Senate for that impel me, and they are powerful beyond and over Why, do you suppose that you can approach the day. In accordance with a suggestion of the Seneverything else. I confess that if I have an im- | British Government and tell them that this is our ator from Michigan, I will not call up the resolupulse and a passion, which is reckless and uncal | opinion, and that it must yield to the demonstra- tion until to-morrow; and I will prepare my culating as to consequences, it is when an appeal tions of public feeling in America, upon the sub- amendment in the mean time. is inade to my heart for an Irish exile, more par- ject of their government? I will answer for it, The PRESIDENT. The Chair will state that, ticularly and emphatically when that exile is an that John Bull has resentment enough to hurl back inasmuch as there is no question before the SenO'Brien. Sir, I go with the honorable Senator upon you any such attempt to influence his policy ale, and as the resolution to which the Senator from Michigan-I go for this movement with all by a legislative demonstration of this kind.' No, from Illinois refers is on the table, this discussion my heart; and I yield to the truth of another dec- sir; it is a false step-permit me so to say. is altogether out of order. It has only been tollaration of the honorable Senator and that is, that I willing to vote for any resolution in favor of these erated by unanimous consent. the heart of the Irishman is with the oppressed. patriots, who have been banished from their coun- Mr.-BADGER. I merely wish to remind the I do not want to give that a technical, local, or iry because they loved it; and who were willing Chair that there is as much a subject of discussion fanatical meaning. It is true there is an old max- to run the hazard of measures of redress for now before the Senate as there was when the Senim of the common law, that “corporations have wrongs, which they supposed, at least, they were ator from Michigan made his speech. no souls;' and hence it is inferred, that having no suffering under. Surely. something must be par
The PRESIDENT. The Chair is aware of souls they have no sympathies, no affections, and doned to the spirit of liberty, under which they that; but he did not know, until the resolutions no hearts. It may have been true; but I trust acted. My sympathies are with them. But to were handed up by the Senator from Michigan, that this great corporation of States and commu- make my views effective, I am not going to take what that Senator was about to bring before the nities may come forward and demonstrate to-day a step of this kind, which I know must result in Senate. that that exploded idea of the common law is not failure. If we are to do things of this kind, when- Mr. CASS. I held the resolutions in my hand true as relates to this great corporation of munici- ever we may think it convenient, in relation to while I was speaking: palities and States; and that we shall demonstrate foreign Governments, we may involve ourselves in Mr. BADGER. I believe that, under the rules, ihat we have souls and hearts that can feel. the predicament of making a demonstration when no Senator can make a speech unless there is some
If, from motives of State policy, the President we cannot back it by any legislative act whatever. l subject before the Senate. There must either be of the United States shall decline to interfere, it || I am not willing to see the American Senate or a motion pending, or he must make a motion bewill be none the less true that the resolution of the the American Government place itself in the situa-fore he can make a speech. American Senate has been spoken, and that it has | tion which it cannot maintain. If you intend to
The PRESIDENT. The Chair did not know, spoken and echoed and reëchoed the sentiments take this position for the purpose of procuring the until he saw the resolutions presented by the Senof the great American people, and that will carry pardon of these exiles, you are not to do it by ator from Michigan, whether there was any subwith it all the moral force that it is entitled to. menaces and reproaches; you are not to do it by ject properly before the Senate. So far as that is concerned-the moral force that mere vain declarations, that the institutions of The resolutions were laid upon the table. is to be attached to the declaration of the senti- Great Britain are rotten, and that we intend to
PAPERS WITHDRAWN AND REFERRED. ments of the American Senate—with all respect correct them by our interference, and rescue Ire
On motion by Mr. SOULE, it was to the President of the United States, I tell him it || land. The object will not be attained by declara
Ordered, That the memorial of the corporate authorities is of very little consequence whether his name is | lions of this kind.
of Shreveport, Louisiana, on the files of the Senate, relaaffixed to it or not. The resolution will have been I would to God I could take some step for the ting to a Marine Hospital at that place, be referred to the entertained, the Senate will have spoken, and release of John Mitchell and Smith O'Brien. I Committee on Commerce. whether the British Government shall lend a re- will not state all that I have done in relation to this On motion by Mr. DOWNS, it was