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Mr. McMULLIN. I am very sorry that my
ocratic party depends upon giving this job to Don- marks are in order. The gentleman from North colleague was not in the Hall. elson & Armstrong? Laughter.]
Carolina was ruled out of order yesterday. I call Mr. NABERS. I had better, then, proceed.
Mr. MEADE. I thought the gentleman was '; for the enforcement of the rules. I call ihe attendo not intend to get a great way out of order. about
tion of the Chair to the 31st rule. Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. I barely rise
Mr. SWEETSER. I call the gentleman from Mr. STUART. Is this question of order a deto say, by way of suggestion to the gentleman and Virginia (Mr. Meade) to order. My point of or- batable one? to the Chair, that I doubt if there was anything
der is, that the gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. The SPEAKER. It is not. The Chair is of said yesterday in the debate strictly out of order. Nabers) cannot yield the floor to the gentleman | the opinion that the gentleman from Mississippi
cannot under the rules discuss political contests Gentlemen seem to suppose that when in Com- from Virginia (Mr. MEADE] for a general discusmittee of the Whole they are allowed a greater sion of this question.
which the people in Mississippi have had, nor the latitude of debate than when in the House. In that
Mr. MEADE. I am not going into a discus- merits of the late compromise measures, with rethey are mistaken. The same rules govern the desion, but only to make a suggestion,
gard to the Territories, and slavery as connected bate. When in the Committee of the Whole upon
The SPEAKER. The Chair understands that with them. The Chair is bound to say that the appropriation and other bills, custom has allowed the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. MEADL) sought : gentleman is out of order. a large latitude to gentlemen, but the parliamentary the toor for the purpose of making a suggestion
Mr. CARTTER. I move that the gentleman law is the same—the rules of the House govern !: to the member from Mississippi, (Mr. NavENS,) be permitted to proceed in order. us. Now, I submit to the Chair and the House that gentleman having yielded the floor for thai The question was then taken and it was agreed to. whether everything in connection with this propo
purpose. The Chair does not think that the gen- Mr. FICKLIN. With the permission of my sition pertaining to the ability and suitableness of ieman from Virginia (Mr. MEADE) is out of or- l' friend from Mississippi, I will suggest to him, a's
der. the selection of these gentlemen to execute this
the has the floor, to make a motion to refer this of the printing, is not legitimate in discussion./ Mr. MEADE. The suggestion I make is sim- / subject to the Committee of the Whole on the am not expressing any opinion as to the merits
ply this: that the Democratic party are agreed state of the Union. It is evident that he cannot of these gentlemen, but I submit that it is a fair
in relation to the powers of the Government and debate it here. subject-matter of debate.
the rights of the States. They differ about the Mr. STANTON, of Tennessee. He cannot The SPEAKER. "The Chair on yesterday did
remedy in case those rights are invaded. Now, I debate it in Committee of the Whole, any more not feel disposed to call the gentleman from North
suggest to him whether there is any good to grow than he can here. The same rules govern the Carolina (Mr. Venable to order, when it was
out of the discussion of a question which ought il committee. the evident desire of the House that he should pro- arises, by some event that is yet to take place ? to be postponed, at least until that question ! (Cries of “Go on!” “Go on!"}]
Mr. NABERS resumed. I dislíke very much ceed. The Chair would have pursued the same course to-day with reference to the gentleman from
If we choose to make two parties out of the Demo to occupy the time of the House, and really I Mississippi, (Mr. NABERS :) but when a gentle ervation of the rights of the States, while we are
in regard to a remedy for the pres. have no very great anxiety to address it. I disman rising in his place, calls to order, it is the duty all agreed about those rights and the powers of object I have in view. My object is to put an ex:
cover that gentlemen thoroughly misconceive the of the Chair to contine gentlemen to the subject the General Government, this discussion may goinguisher upon all these fires of contention before matter under debate. Mr. NABERS. I am fully aware of that, and
If it is politic for us to reserve that question I am through. My object is not to assail any
till the time arrives, then I would suggest that it one. I believe I will heed the suggestions of my shall not complain if called to order for not stricily conforming to the rules of the House. If called
is best for us to act in harmony until it does ar- friends around me. I have no feeling about it for to order, I will feel inclined to take my seat until
myself. Representing, as I do, a most glorious the question is decided. Now, I was about to
Mr. NABERS. I think that the very point to li constituency, I should love to make a speech, proceed, on yesterday evening, to state what I
which the gentleman from Virginia has called my under the circumstances, if I were at liberty to do deemed to be the reason of the peculiar hostility before this time. In connection with the sugattention, would have been answered in my speech But being a new member, unacquainted with
the rules of the House, and subject to constant manifested by the gentleman from North Carolina [Mr. Venable) against the editors of the Wash- gestion made by the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. interruption, it is impossible for me to proceed, ington Union newspaper, I propose to give these MEADE] I will say, that there is no member of the and I therefore yield to the suggestions of my
friends. reasons briefly now, and trust they will be satis
Democratic party, entertaining views similar to
those which I hold, who has manifested the least factory to a large proportion of gentlemen occu
Mr. HOUSTON moved that the joint resoludisposition to throw a fire-brand into this Con- tion be referred to the Committee of the Whole pying seats upon this floor. Mr. ORR. I call the gentleman to order.
gress. It is my purpose studiously to avoid any. on the state of the Union; and on that motion he Mr. NABERS. I was about to talk about thing of the sort. But at the same time, whilst I demanded the previous question.
The previous question was seconded, on a diMessrs. Donelson & Armstrong. I believe they do not propose to divide, distract, or cut into fragare named in the resolution.
ments, if I could, that or any other party, I can- vision-ayes 95, noes 45—and the main question Mr. ORR. I call the gentleman to order for
not sutter myself or my friends to be assailed by was then ordered to be put. irrelevancy. The gentleman stated that he pro
others, who entertain particular views, without Mr. GORMAN. I would inquire of the Chair posed to discuss the reasons of the hostility of the
virdicating not only the sentiments which I enter- whether this motion precludes me from making an member from North Carolina (Mr. VENABLE) to
tain, but those of the newspapers, which entertain argument ? the editors of the Union. I submit that it is not
a similarity of sentiment. It was clearly indicated The SPEAKER. At this time. germane to the question now before the House for
in the speech delivered by the honorable member Mr. GORMAN. I mean now. consideration. from North Carolina, (Mr. VENABLE,) yesterday,
The SPEAKER. The motion would preclude The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks the gen- pleased, and that he would denounce any man, or that he expected to say just precisely what he | the gentleman from making a speech at this time.
Mr. JONES, of Tennessee." I would suggest tleman is in order. Mr. MEADE. Allow me to make a suggestion.
set of men, who inight chance to differ with him. to the Chair that, by the rules and practice of The gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. Nabers) is
And yet if the party assailed see proper to vindi- the House, the gentleman from Indiana, as chair
caie ihemselves, they are to be charged with in- man of the committee that reported this proposidesirous of discussing a question which must open 'troducing fire brands into the party—they are to
tion, is entitled to an hour speech at this time. a wide field of debate. I would suggest to him, if be charged with introducing disturbances into the
The SPEAKER. The Chair doubts whether he is desirous of giving himself a full latitude, and harmonious action of the Democratic party. So that rule applies to a motion of reference. There allow the powers of his mind to operate without
far as I can see, without the speech of the gentle- can be no doubt that the gentleman from Indiana being cramped by apprehensions of the rules of the House, and of being called to order, to let the
man from North Carolina, (Mr. VENABLE,] it is i would be entitled to be heard in case the motion
not so harmonious at the North as it might be. to commit did not prevail; but the Chair is of Committee of the whole. Then he will have
That is my deliberate opinion. I am aware of the opinion that he cannot be heard upon the motion
fact, that ihere are questions of peculiar delicacy lo commit, all debate having been cut off by the ample time to reply to the gentleman from North Carolina, (Mr. VENABLE.] I will suggest another growing out of this resolution incidentally, and it previous question. thing. If it is his purpose, or that of any other
is with pain that I allude to the strife and bitter- Mr. JONES. I suppose, then, that if the moman, to break up the present harmony that exists
ness that characterizes or did characterize the late | tion to commit is negatived, he will be entitled to in the Democratic party, it is very well to let this
contests in various parts of the United States. be heard before the question is taken on the resodiscussion go on, and I will tell you why. It is
Allow me to say, that the contest alluded to bylution. well known that the Democratic party arethe gentleman on yesterday—the contest which
The SPEAKER. Certainly.
Mr. GORMAN demanded the yeas and nays; Mr. STANTON, of Tennessee. I call the gen-' prevailed in my own galiani State—was not as to tleman from Virginia (Mr. MEADE) to order. He
ihe particular course pursued by any gentleman and they were ordered. is not stating his point of order. (Laughter.]
with regard to these exciting questions, or as to And the question being taken, it was decided in
, the manner in which those measures were to be Mr. MEADE. It was a suggestion I was
the affirmative-yeas 148, nays 45; as follows: about to make, that he was not going on with the received, after they became the law of the land. I
YEAS--Messrs. Abercrombie, Aiken, Willis Allen, Al1. never made war upon any living human being, in lison, John Appleton, William Appleton, Ashe, Babcock, discussion upon this bill. Mr. STANTON. I thought you had called
regard to his particular views, during the pend- Barrere, Bartlett, Bell, Bibighaus, Bocock, Bowie, Bragg, him to order. ency of these measures before Congress
Briggs, Brooks, Albert G. Brown, George H. Brown, Buell,
Burrows, E. Carrington Cabell, Caldwell, Lewis D. Camp
Mr. ORR. I again call the gentleman to order. Mr. STEPHENS. I wish to ask the gentle
bell, Thompson Campbell, C'artter, Caskie, Chandler,
Mr. VENABLE. I hope my friend will withman from Virginia (Mr. MEADE) a question.
Chastain, Churchwell, Clark, Clingman, Chicock, Conger, draw it, and let the gentleinan proceed.
Cottman, Cullom, Curtis, Daniel, George T. Davis, Dun. Mr. MEADE. I would rather reply to the gen. il., Mr. ORR. I should have no objection to hear
mick, Dockery, Doiy, Duncan, Durkee, Eastman, Edgertleman from Mississippi, [Mr. NABERS.) I cannot
ton, Evans, Ficklin, Fitch, Florence, Fowler, Henry M. the gentleman from Mississippi (Mr. Nabers) in Fuller, Gamble, Gentry, Giddings, Gilmore, Goodenow, answer a question until I have made my own sug-Committee of the Whole, if he desires to reply Goodrich, Grey, Grow, Isham G. Harris, Sampson W. gestions.
to the gentleman from North Carolina, Mr Ven- Harris, Hart. Haws, Hascall, Haven, Hébard, Hibbard, Mr. STEPHENS. I would ask the gentleman'' ABLE.) I should be gratified to hear him; but
Hillyer, Holladay. Horsford, Houston, John W. Hoxe, whether he believes that the harmony of the Dem- i upon this resolution I do not think that his re- il Johnson, James Jobuson, John Johnson, Robert W. John
Thomas Y. How. Hunter, Ives, Jackson, Jenkins, Andrew
gon, Daniel T. Jones, George W. Jones, J. Glancy Jones, ered in the Committee of the Whole on the state Lockhart, Mace, Mason, McCorkle, McLanahan, McMulGeorge G. King, Preston King, Kuhns, Kurtz, Mann, . of the Union. I see no reason for changing that
lin, McNair, Morrison, Murray, Nabers, Olds,' Andrew Humphrey Marshall, Martin, McDonald, McLanahani, McNair, Miller, Millson, Miner, Molony, Jobu Moore,
Parker, Damuel W. Parker, Penn, Polk, Price, Rantoul, practice.
Riddle, Robbins, Robinson, Russell, Savage, David L. SeyMorehead, Morrison, Murphy, Murray, Newton, Orr, Out- The SPEAKER, The Chair thinks that the
mour, Skelton, Smith, Frederick P. Stanton, Richard H. Penniman, Phelps, Rantoul, Riddie, Russell, Sackett, fixing of a time for closing the debate on a propoww, Andrew Parker, Samuel W. Parker, Peaslee, Penn, general power given to the House extends to the Stanion, Alexander H. Stephens, St. Martin, Stratton, Schoolerait, Schoonmaker, Scudder, Origen, S. Seyingur: isition in advance of its actual consideration in the
Stuart, George W. Thompson, Thurston, Wilcox, and
NAYS--Messrs. Abercrombie, Aiken, Charles Allen, Alham P. Stevens, Alexander Hl. Stephens, Stone, Strother, committee.
Jison, W. Appleton, Ashe, Averett, Barrere, Bell, Bibighaus, Taylor, Benjamin Thompson, Townshend, Tuck, Venable, Walbridge, Wallace, Walsh, Ward, Watkins, Welch: quire of the Chair, by way of suggestion to the gen- ' bell, Carrter, Caskié, Clingman, Cobb, Colcock, Conger,
Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. I would in- Rocock, Bragg, Brenton, Brooks, Albert G. Brown, George Wells, Addison White, Alexander White, Wildrick, Williams, and Woodward-148,
tleman from Tennessee, whether there is not a NAYS. Messrs. Charles Allen, Thomas H. Bayls, Bcale, special order for Thursday next, and from day to ' Dunean, Durkee, Eastman, Edgerton, Evans, Ficklin, ham, Freeman, Thomas J. D. Fuller, Gaylord, Gorman, supersede a special order already made. day thereafter? A majority of the House cannot Fitch, Florence, Fowler, Thomas J. D. Fuller, Giddings,
Goodenow, Goodrich, Grey, Grow, Hall, Harper, Haws, Green, Hall, llamilton, Hendricks, Hem, Howard, Inger
Mr. POLK. Can the gentleman from Georgia | Thomas Y. How, Hunter, Ives, Jackson, Jenkins, Andrew
Haven, lebard, Holladay, Horsford, John W. Howe, soll, Letcher, Lockhart, Mace, Mason, McCorkle, McMullin, Meade, Nabers, Olds, Polk, Price, Robbins, Robinson, inform me what was the hour fixed for that spe- : Johnson, James Johnson, John Johnson, Daniel T. Jones, Savage, Seurry, David L. Seymour, Frederick P. Stanton, cial order?
George W. Jones, George G. King, Mann, Humphrey Richard H. Stanton, St. Martin, Stratton, Stuart, Sweetser, George W. Thompson, and Wilcox—45.
The SPEAKER. For the entire day and from
Marshall, Martin, McDonald, Miller, Millson, Miner, Mo
lony, Morehead, Murphy, Newton, Orr, Outiaw, Peaslee, So the joint resolution was referred to the Com- day to day thereafter until disposed of.
Penniman, Phelps, Porter, Schoolcraft, Schoonmaker, mittee of the Whole on the state of the Union.
Mr. STEPHENS. I would suggest to the ': Scudder, $curry, Smart, Stanly, Benjamin Stanton, Stroth
gentleman from Tennessee, that he can attain hiser, Sweetser, l'aylor, Benjamin Thompson, Townshend, CLOSE OF DEBATE ON CENSUS PRINTING. object by modifying his resolution so as to read,
Tuck, Walbridge, Wallace, Walsh, Ward, Washburn,
Watkins, Welch, Wells, Addison White, Alexander Mr. POLK offered the following resolution:
that the debate shall cease in fifteen minutes, or White, Williams, and Yates--107. Resolved, That all debate in Committee of the Whole on one hour, after the committee shall take the subthe state of the Union on joint resolution No. 12, shall cease ject up.
So the House refused to lay the appeal upon the on Thursday next at two o'еlock, and they shall then pro
table. ceed to vote on such amendments as may be pending or
Mr. POLK. I will accept of that modification.
The question now being, “ Shall the decision of offered to the same, and shall then report it to the House with such amendments as may have been agreed to by the Mr. ORR. Was not an appeal taken from the the Chair stand as the judgment of the House ?” committee. decision of the Chair?
Mr. CLINGMAN called for tellers; which Mr. CLINGMAN. I submit that that resolu- The SPEAKER. There was; but the gentle-' were ordered, and Messrs. C1.Ingman, and STANtion is not in order at this time. It is not proper man from Tennessee has a right to modify his res
Ton of Tennessee, were appointed. to offer such a resolution until the matter has been olution.
Mr. SKELTON. I desire to move to reconup in the Committee of the Whole on the state of Mr. HIBBARD. Is not the question now sider the vote by which the House referred this the Union, and has been debated there. It has pending upon the appeal ?
resolution to the Committee of the Whole on the been so decided by the last Speaker. I know that The SPEAKER. It is.
state of the Union. fact. I remember it distinctly.
Mr. HIBBARD. Then I move to lay the ap- | be entertained, but the Chair thinks that the ques
The SPEAKER. Thegentleman's motion will Mr. POLK. I have not surrendered the floor i peal upon the table. yet.
Mr. POLK then modified his resolution so as tion of order must first be disposed of. The SPEAKER. The Chair thinks that the to read that the debate should cease in one hour The resolution was then again read as modified. resolution is in order.
after the committee should take up the subject. Mr. POLK. If the resolution is still under my Mr. STANLY. Then I move to lay it upon the usual resolution has been, that the debate debate in five hours, instead of one hour after the
Mr. CLINGMAN. My objection still lies. control, I desire again to modify it, so as to close the table.
Mr. POLK. The gentleman from North Caro- ! shall cease within one hour after the committee Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union lina cannot submit that motion until I yield the shall resume the consideration of the subject. shall again have entered upon its consideration. floor.
The SPEAKER. The Chair thinke it compe- The SPEAKER. The gentleman can so modThe SPEAKER: The question not being de- tent for the House to order the committee even to lify the resolution, if the decision of the Chair is batable, the gentleman from Tennessee had no be discharged from any consideration of the sub- sustained; but the question of order must first be right to retain the floor. ject.
determined. Mr. CLINGMAN. I intended to appeal from Mr. STEPHENS. There is no doubt about The question was then taken, and the tellers rethe decision of the Chair-that this resolution is that, but that is under a different rule.
ported-ayes 59, noes 96. now in order.
Mr. POLK. Will it be in order, to avoid the So the decision of the Chair was overruled, and Mr. POLK. It is very strange that gentlemen objection of the gentleman from North Carolina, the resolution of the gentleman from Tennessee upon the other side should be so anxious that the to amend the resolution so as to make it read, (Mr. Polk) was ruled out of order. debate should progress upon this question. There ** on Wednesday next at three o'clock?”
Mr. HOUSTON. Mr. Speaker, I now pro. must be some object_some purpose in it.
The SPEAKER. That would not obviate the poseMr. STANLY. There is. We desire to save objection raised by the gentleman from North The SPEAKER. The gentleman from New the public money. Carolina.
Jersey (Mr. Skelton) has the floor-if he desires The SPEAKÉR. The Chair decides that the The question was then taken on the motion to ! to claim it-upon his motion to reconsider the vote resolution offered by the gentleman from Tennes-lay the appeal upon the table, and, on a count, i by which the joint resolution was referred to the see, (Mr. Polk,] closing debate upon the joint res- there were-ayes 71.
Committee of the Whole on the state of the olution just referred to the Committee of the Mr. CLINGMAN demanded tellers; which Union. Whole on the state of the Union, is in order, and were ordered.
Mr. SKELTON. I now desire to make that from that decision the gentleman from North Car- Mr. POLK demanded the yeas aad nays; which motion; and upon that motion I wish to make one olina (Mr. ClinGMAN) appeals. were ordered.
or two remarks. Mr. CLINGMAN. I ask for the reading of the Mr. MEADE. I desire to inquire of the Speaker In voting for the reference of this resolution, I rule making a resolution of that kind in order. what is the state of the question?
did so for the purpose of obtaining additional inMr. POLK. Will the gentleman from North The SPEAKER. The Chair will state, for the formation upon the subject before it was finally Carolina state when such a resolution would be in information of the gentleman and the House, that . disposed of.' Since that reference has been made, order:
the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Polk) de- however, my views upon that subject have underMr. CLINGMAN. After the joint
resolution : sired to offer a resolution closing debate in Com- gone a change. I am satisfied that we are as well had been debated in Committee of the Whole on mittee of the Whole upon the joint resolution in prepared to vote upon this resolution now, as we the state of the Union,
relation to the Census printing. The gentleman shall be ten days or ten weeks hence, or at least Mr. POLK. For how long?
from North Carolina (Mr. Clingman] made the any future time. I am in favor of the most rigid A MEMBER. For one minute even.
point of order that the House could not close i economy in the administration of the affairs of this The SPEAKER. The rule is as follows: debate in the Committee of the Whole upon a
Government. And it is for these reasons I The House may, at any time, by a vote of a majority | subject until the committee had had the subject I desire that this subject shall not be referred to the of the members present, suspend the rules and orders for first under consideration. The Chair decided that Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union. the purpose of going into Committee of the Whole House
the resolution was in order. From that decision I believe this House is now prepared knowingly on the state of the Union ; and also for providing for the discharge of the Committee of the Whole House, and the
the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Cling-, and understandingly to vote upon this subject, Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union, Man) appeals. The gentleman from New Hamp- i and that if it is referred, the consequence will be from the further consideration of any bill referred to it, shire (Mr. Hibbard) moves to lay that appeal unnecessary delay. The interests of this House after acting without debate on all amendments pending upon the table. The question now is, therefore, I and the country demand that this subject of puband that may be offered."
"Shall the appeal from the decision of the Chair lie lic printing shall be acted upon, and acted upon The Chair is still of the opinion that the reso- upon the table?” Upon that question the yeas speedily. It is, in my opinion, a bad economy for lution is in order. and nays have been ordered.
this House to prolong the consideration of this Mr. CLINGMAN. Will the Chair allow me
The question was then taken, and there were
question from day to day, when its own business is to state that the ground upon which his predeces
suffering for want of the necessary printing, to sor based his decision was with reference to the yeas 76, nays 107; as follows: words " further consideration?"
YEAS_Messrs. W. Allen, Thomas H. Bayly, Bartlett, give the information required in the transaction of Beale, Breckenride, Briggs, Buell, Busby, Caldwell, T.
its own business. I say that is a bad economy. The SPEAKER. So the Chair understands.
Campbell, Chastain, Clark, Cottnan, Curtis, Dawson, Upon the other hand, it has been admitted, I beMr. CLINGMAN. I know that Mr. Cobb i Dean, Dimmick, Dúnham,'Edmundson, Freeinan, Gay- lieve, by all the committees which have reported decided again and again--and so did Mr. Win- lord, Gentry, Gilmore, Gorman, Green, 'Hamilton, Tshain
to this fouse upon the subject, that the printer throp---that it was not in order to offer a resolu- G. Harris, Šampson W. Harris, Hart, Hascail, Hendricks,
who contracted to do the public printing for this tion of this kind until the matter had been consid- !! Johnson, J. Glancy Jones, Preston King, Kurtz, Letcher, il Congress, has utterly failed to comply with that
Hon. R. H. STANTON.
With this state of things before us, it respects more than we lose in dollars and cents in i gressional Globe; and if you leave off this histori. becomes our duty to adopt some other system, by
this. For while I am an advocate of economy in cal part, it will make about thirty per cent. less. which the business of this House and of the the matter of dollars and cents, I am an equal ad- | Am I right? country may be promoted. It becomes us to vocate of economy in other matters, and I call the Mr. EVANS. If the honorable gentleman will order, in some manner, the public printing neces- attention of the House to the subject. I would | allow me, the Superintendent of the Census has sary to accomplish our purposes, to be done as not save money in the action of this House at the shown me the book. The gentleman is perfectly speedily as possible. The question, then, arises, expense of intelligence. Every farthing we spend correct. He says it will make two volumes about Shall we delay this matter from day to day, as we for the promotion of intelligence through our wide- | the size of the American Archives. If the Comhave done since the commencement of this session? spread and prosperous country, will return to us a pendium of Maryland will make one hundred Shall we allow the interests of the country to suffer hundred-fold, though it may appear to cost us a pages, I argue from it that the whole will make for the want of expeditious printing? I think large sum in dollars and cents. The census re- about four volumes, and not thirty volumes, as not. I think it is our duty, and the public interests turns should be printed as speedily as possible, stated yesterday. demand it, that we should act upon the present and given forth to the country, to stimulate the in- Mr. STANTON, of Kentucky. If the gentleoccasion upon this subject, in a manner that shall telligence, the industry, and enterprise of our cit- man will allow me, I have a letter from Mr. Kenexpedite the business before the House. It is not izens, and it will return to the cotlers of the nation nedy, the Superintendent of the Census, and will only necessary that we should have the printing a hundred-fold. I will not occupy the time of this send it to the Speaker's table to be read. done in time, but it is necessary that we should House in a lengthy and elaborate discussion of Mr. GORMAN. Certainly. have it done in a proper manner. Heretofore the this subject, for I am aware that these topics were | Mr. EVANS. I will further state, that the printing for this body has been performed in a discussed when this subject was before under con- Superintendent of the Census told me that the spemamer that is not creditable to us. It has been sideration. I wish merely to give my views, and cimen-work for Maryland will be laid on every printed upon bad paper, and badly printed upon my reasons for changing my vote upon this ques- member's table on Saturday next; and from that the paper used. tion. I desire the question shall be speedily settled,
every one can judge for himself, if Maryland Mr. FLORENCE. I desire that the gentleman and so settled that the printing of the House may. makes one hundred pages how much the whole from New Jersey (Mr. SkelTON] will specify be done in the most expeditious and correct man- Union will make. what printer it is who has performed his work ner, and at the same time we shall be able to give The communication from Mr. Kennedy was thus badly. I desire to know whether he refers to the people of this country that information
then read, as follows: to the present contractor or the contractors for a which the circumstances of the present time seem
Census BUREAU, January 27, 18.12. former Congress?
to demand. I hope, sir, that this resolution will Sur: The census returns, as I propose to arrange them, Mr. SKELTON. I will state to the gentleman be reconsidered, and that this question will be re- will make two volumes (not quite so much) of the size of that, so far as my observation has extended, the tained in this House and speedíly acted upon; and
the American Archives. The second voluine of the fourth
series is a fair sample of the size. If my comments are public printing not only for previous Congresses, for the purpose of bringing this question to an is
omitted, it will reduce the size thirty per cent. but for this House since the commencement of sue, I more the previous question.
Respectfully, your obedient servant, the present session, has been done very badly, Mr. GORMAN. I hope the gentleman will
J. C.'G. KENNEDY, and upon very bad paper. Will that satisfy the withdraw his call for the previous question for a
Superintendent Census Bureau. gentleman from Pennsylvania? I do not know short time. who has done this printing, but, by whomsoever
Mr. SKELTON. As the chairman of the Com- Mr. GORMAN, (resuming.) That letter from it has been done, I do know that it has not been mittee on Printing desires it, I will withdraw the Mr. Kennedy says, that if the printing proceeds done according to the contract. call, upon condition that he renews it.
as suggested by the Secretary of the Interior, and Mr. FLORENCE. It satisfies me so far as Mr. ORR. I desire to know whether the pre- by the Superintendent of the Census, it will make the gentleman's declaration is concerned, but no vious question can be demanded upon a motion to two volumes something less than the size of the further. I have my own opinion as to the conreconsider?
American Archives—that is about the size of the clusion which he arrives ai, as to wbether the The SPEAKER. There is no question of that. Congressional Globe substantially, public printing for the present Congress has been The gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Gorman) is Now, the next thing is, will this House order well executed or not. I have some of it before entitled to the floor.
the printing of the historical part? I will consent me, and as far as my experience goes, and accord- Mr. GORMAN. The confusion upon this sub-1-and my colleagues upon the committee will coning to my own judgment, I have no hesitation in ject has created some little excitement, and if I sent, I understand—that you strike off this historsaying, that it is the best public printing I ever
could be heard I am well satisfied that I can sat- ical part. Then it will make two volumes—hirty saw, and qui'e as good as any I ever saw either isfy this House-I care not to what party gentle- per cent. less than the two volumes I have deby contract or by the publisher of any newspaper men belong—that this question need not, and ought scribed. It is in such a state of forwardness at in the country:
not, for the public good, to be referred to the Com- || this time, that it can be left off without interruptMr. SKELTON. I will say, for the informa- mittee of the Whole on the state of the Union.ing the printing at all. Do you desire to leave off tion of this House and the country, that the gen.
Gentlemen upon both sides of the House are call- the historical part? tleman who has the contract for the public printing ing upon the Committee on Printing-I am be
A VOJCE. No! no! is a stranger to me, and I have, therefore, no per- sieged upon the right hand and left--to have the pub- Mr. G. If you do, I will propose an amendsonal feelings in the matter whatever. I do not lic printing done, and have it laid before the coun- ment, or will accept one, that it shall be left off, even know the politics of the gentleman, and try. You ask me, my friends ask me, what are and let the printing proceed, as is the earnest detherefore I have no political feelings to gratify in you doing upon this subject? The point first be- sire of the Secretary of the Interior, the Superinthis matter. My only object is to have the print- fore the House-and I stated it briefly when I gottendent of the Census, and of you all. Strike it ing of this House and of Congress done in time, up-is, Does this printing come within the contract
out, then. and properly done. That is my only motive. 1 of the public printer? By reference to the law, it A Voice. Oh no! let us have it all. leave the quality of the paper heretofore used, and
will be seen that this species of printing was ex- Mr. G. Now, whether it is struck out or not, the printing heretofore done, for the consideration pressly reserved from the contract. Every yen- why delay? The next thing, Mr. Speaker, is, of the members of this House. I have given my ileman upon that committee—the distinguished why is this resolution introduced with the name opinion, and the gentleman from Pennsylvania has
Senator from Connecticut, (Mr. Smith,) and the of 'Donelson & Armstrong? Will my friends given his, and it is for the House to decide be- gentleman from New York, (Mr. Havens,] being hear me? and I will tell you the reason. Here is
I presume a majority of the gentlemen members of that committee upon that side of the a job, reserved from the public printer's contract in this House will admit that the printing has not House-every gentleman was clearly of the opin- by the letter of the law, to be done by your orbeen done according to the contract entered into ion that there was no legal doubt upon the ques- der. Who will you give it to? You have organby the public printer. I believe that this contract tion at all. Then that being settled, what next? ized a committee in this House, and the coördisystem has failed; and that having failed, it be- Here is a job-if you may so call it-of census nate branch of the legislative department of the comes indispensably necessary that we should printing. It has io be done, and by somebody. Government has organized another committee. adopt some other method by which we can have In the first place, the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. The Democratic party of the country are in the this work done expeditiously. We have now a Vinton) introduced this census law in the last , ascendency here. You have organized those comresolution before the House which looks to the Congress, and he put into that census law, at the mittees with Democratic majorities. You direct accomplishment of this object. I do not believe request of the authorities of Government-I am them, by a resolution, that they shall have this it is necessary to refer this resolution to the Com-authorized to say so-and at the request of some census printing done. You direct it. And I am mittee of the Whole on the state of the Union. of the members of the Administration, that this inquired of, occasionally, by a timid friend, Why
I shall insist, when the work of this House is to preparatory part of the census printing should be do you introduce this resolution here? Because be done, that it shall be done in a proper manner; left under the control of the Superintendent of the
you told me to. You demanded action. I have and while I insist upon the most rigid economy in
Census Board and the Secretary of the Interior. given you action. I submitted it to a committee giving out the public printing, I will say—and I That law so stipulated that it should be so left composed of a majority of Democrats. Gales & believe the members ofthis House are willing to take there. They have had all the preparatory print- Seaton, Gideon & Co., Rives, Hamilton, and the same ground—that I am in favor of giving a ing done as fast as they could.' Then there was Donelson & Armstrong, are printers in this city. fair compensation for such labor,so that men shall another part of the printing which Congress When we come forward to act, the resolution says not, after the work has been done, come before us said should be reserved, to be done according as we shall have this printing done. I make a conand say they have not been paid for their work, you might direct hereafter. Whal printing is tract with Donelson & Armstrong upon such and have lost by their jobs. 1 say this is all ihat? li is the compendium, making—if you terms as may be considered proper and reasonawrong. We should give them a fair compensa- publish this historical account--about two vol ble. I then put the question, Are you willing to tion, and insist upon the work being done in a umes of the size of the Congressional Globe. And trust the joint committee of the Senate and House proper manner and at a proper time. If the it was shown to my friend from Maryland, [Mr. to make a contract that will be fair and honorprinting of this House costs us a little more in Evans,] who made a speech yesterday, not an able? We are told that there will be fraud. money, under the arrangement proposed to be en- hour ago, by the Suprintendent of the Census, | Why, gentlemen must remember, that when tered into by the committee who have the special that the size of this historical part, if published, they say that, they impugn the character and charge of ihis matter, we shall gain in other I would only make a volume of the size of the Con- il integrity of that committee. Sir, I should feel
myself unworthy of a seat here if I could pander to tion. Why not have this resolution in such shape preference to other Democrats? I will do so, I my party predilections—as strong as they are-if that when the committee come to the conclusion iell my friends, because they are the organs of the I could so forget myself as to make a contract that they cannot make a reasonable contract with Democratic party. Is that plain enough? Is it that would be unreasonable, or give a compensa- Donelson & Armstrong, that they shall make it understood? I beg my friend from North Carotion to enrich my political friends at the sacrifice with some other printer without coming back to lina to let by-gones be by-gones. I will not raise of justice or of the rights of my country. What the House ?
Banquo's ghost here. I will not put the cup to would that committee do? That committee would Mr. GORMAN. I apprehend that the gentle his lips. I am willing to stand side by side with call upon Blair & Rives, as one of the members of man's interrogation does not amount to anything. my honorable friend from North Carolina to do that committee has already done upon Mr. Rives, It results only in this, that if we cannot make a battle with him for the great Democratic princiand inquire, What did you get for the printing of contract what are we then to do? The gentleman ples of my country. I do not care whether be the census in 1842 and 1843? Answer, $137,000. goes into a supposition that is not at all within voted for the compromise or not. I am not going We have had that to start upon. We would then the range of probability:
to put the test to his lips, if he sees proper now call upon Gales & Seaton, Gideon & Co., and Mr. Mr. HEBARD. It is within the range of a to march under the banner of the Democratic party Rives and others, to learn what diminution of business transaction.
as it shall be laid down by the Baltimore Convenprices had occurred since that time.
Mr. GORMAN. I will not retort upon the tion. I ask him, a veteran in the cause of DeMr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. Will the gen- | gentleman, and say as to what he would do, be- mocracy, when he comes before the country, not to teman allow me to ask him a question ?
cause I will not enier into that sort of discussion. tell the people that he is going to prescribe rules Mr. GORMAN. With great pleasure.
I shall confine myself to the facts; and, as gentle- for the party, which, if not adopted, he will sepMr. STEPHENS. I understand the gentleman men have been kind enough to listen to what I have arate himself from them. I ask him to leave a litto state that he had called upon Mr. Rives to learn said, I beg them to hear me further upon the facts tle to the generous confidence of friends with what he would do this job for, and to be governed l of the matter. It has been said here that Donel- whom he has been associated all his life-a little by his price.
son & Armstrong are partisan editors. True; to the confidence of those friends who hold the Mr. GORMAN. By all means. We would
that is to be given to country dear-who hold the perpetuation of our certainly give the contract to Donelson & Arm- some one, and I ask any gentleman upon that side institutions above all price. He should act with strong without an understanding of the former of the House, if he had the power, would he not them, and because of the declarations of an indiprices.
give it to his political friends who would do it for vidual who has thought proper to be his antagonist Mr. STEPHENS. Then another question: an equally reasonable price?
upon a political principle, he certainly is not going Why does the gentleman come in here and ask the
to stifle his voice in the cause of his country. House in advance to say that we shall give it to tion". Do I understand the chairman of the com
Mr. VENABLE. I trust that no man here Messrs. Donelson & Armstrong?
mittee on Printing to say the public printer, so will suppose that I am deserting principles, which Mr. GORMAN. I was just coming to that called, is unable to perform this printing? I have professed for more than thirty years, bepoint, which I hope to eliminate to the gentle- Mr. GORMAN. I have made no such decla- cause of my dissatisfaction with any individual. man's entire satisfaction. I stated that we had ration.
My principles are independent of individuals. consulted with printers in reference to the price of Mr. FLORENCE. That he is not entitled to They are founded upon the convictions of my unprinting. This has been all talked over in the it under his contract?
derstanding, the approbation of my conscience, committee, and I am now but recapitulating. Mr. GORMAN. Under the law.
and the cordial acceptance of my heart. From my, Why did we put Donelson & Armstrong's names Mr. FLORENCE. I want to understand the intercourse with my gallant friend, I shall be proud in here? I will tell my friend: For the very same difference between awarding patronage to a Demo- to act with him at all times; but I shall never act reason that if his party were in power, they crat with a newspaper and a Democrat without a either with or without my friends, under circumwould put the names of Gales & Seaton, or Gideon newspaper. I cannot understand why a constitu- stances by which I shall forfeit my self-respect. & Co., there.
ent of mine-and I make that declaration here- Mr. GÓRMAN. I have no fears that my honMr. STEPHENS. I have no party.
who is a Democrat, and by whose vote, in part, I orable friend will ever be called upon to act with Mr. GORMAN. The gentleman says he has hold a seat in this House, should not be as well any other organization than that great and glono party.
considered as a Democrat with a newspaper? rious Democratic pariy, that has borne the banMr. STANTON, of Kentucky. I desire sim- Several MEMBERS. That is the point.
ner of their country always. They are always ply to ask the gentleman from Indiana if it is not Mr. GORMAN. He should, by all manner of for their country. I am proud to say to-day, behis recollection, and whether it is not the recollec
fore God and my country, that I am for that tion of the House, that the preparatory printing Mr. FLORENCE. I will beg the gentleman's country right, but in the last resort, right or of the forms necessary for the taking of the cen- permission to say another word.
wrong. I hope that I may not find my honorable sus was done at the “ Republic office," and if, Mr. GORMAN. I cannot yield further. friend, who has differed with us upon certain when we had that subject under consideration, it Mr. FLORENCE. I will go behind no questions, which have agitated the country from did not appear to this House that we could not alter
centre to circumference during the last Congress, the schedules in a single particular, because the The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Penn- going up to the Washington Union and saying, "I Secretary of the Interior had caused this prelimi- || sylvania is not in order, as the gentleman from hold you responsible for your opinions--you shall nary printing to be done before we had passed | Indiana refuses to yield the floor.
not share in the patronage which I can bestow, bethe bill? While we were engaged in passing that Mr. GORMAN. My friend must excuse me, cause you differ with me upon these subjects.” bill, I made repeated efforts, and other gentlemen but I cannot yield.
My friend, when he says that he will proscribe made repeated' efforts, to change those schedules; Mr. FLORENCE. Only one word. [Laugh- such opinions, could only expect to be proscribed but we could not do it. We could not get a particu- ter.]
in turn. I hope that no such necessity may lar description of hemp growing in my State in- Mr. GORMAN. The gentleman appeals so cluded in the schedule. We had been frustrated strongly that I cannot resist. I yield.
Mr. VENABLE. Will the gentleman allow by the action of the Secretary of the Interior, who Mr. FLORENCE. I do not trouble the House me to say, that I proposed to open this subject to had given the job to the partisan editors of the much. I am a listener, a learner, a pupil here; free bidding everywhere. I said that they had no ti Republic.
but, sir, my whole political life will bear me out claims upon me individually. I do not proscribe Mr. GORMAN. The gentleman has fully ex- in the declaration that I go behind no man in them, but I open the bidding to the printers of the plained that matter, and I need not repeat it. I awarding what patronage I can by my personal United States, so that we may have a fair and free will tell my honorable friend from Georgia that influence and vote to Democrats.
competition. party has something to do with this matter. It Mr. GORMAN. That is exactly right. (Laugh- Mr. GORMAN. This resolution proposes to would be dishonorable in me to disguise it. Were ter.) I am willing that that sentiment shall be im- leave this matter to the committee. It is not a I in power I would give what patronage was to bodied in my speech. I ask my friends upon the question to be left to Donelson & Armstrong. be given fairly and properly to my political friends | opposite side of the House to remember that at the It is a question which our friends are called upon instead of to my political enemies.
extra session of Congress in 1842–'43 a resolution to leave to the committee which you have conMr. HEBARD. I want to make a simple in- was introduced into one of the branches of the stituted in this House. We call upon you to leave quiry. I understand the gentleman from Indiana Government in these words:
the reasonableness and propriety of that contract to state that the resolution only authorizes the Resolved, That Blair & Rives be dismissed as the public to the committee. Are you willing to do it? Have committee to make a contract with Donelson & printer or printers of the Senate.
you confidence in their integrity and purpose of Armstrong. In case they make no reasonable It was passed by a Whig party vote, and stands
character to discharge that duty? contract I would ask him what they then inten- upon your records as a living witness coming up Mr. EVANS. I will ask the gentleman before doing?
in judgment against you. That is admitted. This he is done to tell this House why it is improper Mr. GORMAN. I will answer. The contract
is not a parallel case to that at all. This I say to to let this printing by contract, and why it is the with Donelson & Armstrong for the printing of my Democratic friends is a simple question wheiher
contract system is now to be abandoned? The this matter is to be made upon such terms as the
we shall give it to our friends or not. That is all || instance the gentleman gave was in 1841, before the committee shall deem reasonable and proper, and
there is in it. What more do we propose ? contract system was entered into. Now, I want, not what Donelson & Armstrong shall deem rea- “The work to be executed under the direction of the the gentleman to state how much this printing sonable. That is my answer.
Secretary of the Interior, and to be paid for as it progresses will cost. I am informed that it will cost about
by the head of the Census Bureau, with power to abate Mr. HEBARD. That does not answer my from the amount stipulated if the work, when executed,
million of dollars. question. After the committee shall have come shall prove deficient or below the standard which may be
Mr. GORMAN, I am authorized to say, upon to their conclusion of what price will be reason- agreed upon.”
the authority of the very best printers, that it will able, and Messrs. Donelson & Armstrong will not I ask my friends what more is there in this not cost half of $500,000. These diversions upon accept the terms proposed, what do they then transaction? Donelson & Armstrong are to do it, I this occasion have led me off from some of the propose to do?
and it is complained because their names are in- facts in this case. Mr. GORMAN. There is no other remedy serted here. ' I tell you, if that contract can be Mr. EVANS. Speak to the contract. then but to report the fact to the House.
given them, so far as my influence and vote go, Mr. GORMAN. I was about to speak upon Mr. HEBÅRD. I want to ask another ques. Il they shall have it. Why will I select them in the question of the contract system. It is known
to that gentleman, as he remarked yesterday upon agree with the honorable gentleman from Virginia, Mr. GORMAN. Not at all. The gentleman the floor, that the contract system had led to difi- || [Mr. Bocock)-supposing that upon the subject || wants to pursuade us, that we tie our own hands culty, and frauds upon the country enormous in of State-rights he does not concur fully in some of by putting in those potent words, " Donelson & their character. The contract system lets in every the details, I say to the gentlemen that we intend || Armstrong;" that is the bugbear. individual to come in and bid as low as possi- to put no poison in their cups.
Mr. BELL. You ask the House to tie your ble, and their ruling motive seems to have been, Mr. NÅBERS. The remark I intend to sub- || hands for you. that after a while they were to go before Congress | mit is not at all intended to interfere with the prog- Mr. GORMAN. I turned to the gentlemen ou and ask that they might be released from an ress of this discussion, nor is it intended to indi- | the other side of the House, and asked them if, in onerous bargain. Such is the experience-such cate that I feel injured by not being permitted to giving this job, they had to choose between a po is the language of my friend from Maryland, [Mr. address the House this morning. I wish simply litical friend and a political foe-occupyiug equal Evans.] He used that language then, and I pre- to know if there is any new question before the positions-in society, of equal ability and integrity, sume he will use it again. I apprehend that this House differing from the one upon which I had i and willing to take it at the same reasonable prices, system of letting this work out by contract to the the floor this morning? [Laughter.]
they would not prefer to give it to their political lowest bidder, is the ground-work of the most stu- The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman from friend? The gentleman answered no. pendous system of fraud ever perpetrated upon Mississippi call the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Mr. BELL. That was not the question. ihe people of this country. GORMAN) to order?
Mr. GORMAN. I answered that the gentleMr. EVANS. Not if you furnish them with Mr. NABERS. No-I only asked for inform- man must certainly be sui generis. I did not mean paper. ation. (Laughter.]
anything personal. Mr. GORMAN. If you furnish them with Mr. GORMAN, (resuming.) I was simply Mr. BELL. Oh, I did not understand you so. paper, type, and presses, it will not do. Every | saying that objections had been urged to Donelson Mr. GORMAN. Well, tben, allow me to proCommittee on Printing have found at the bottom & Armstrong. That subject was my text. Why? || ceed. This resolution—to come back to it againof this contract system all sorts of private under- The honorable gentleman from North Carolina | has been ordered to be referred to the Committee standings and bargains for the purpose of fieecing [Mr. Venable] had asked, why? With regard of the Whole on the state of the Union. When the Government. The Committee on Printing to certain questions-certain political principles, I ll it gets there all these matters about the question have found this in their experience now. Shall
was giving as a reason why they ought not to of State rights and Free-Soil, and the Massachuthis matter be reconsidered? Why refer it to the have weight. I am in order, I believe; why? be- setts coalition, will be brought up; the House will Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union? cause I am directing my remarks to the point | be kept in a furor for ten or fifteen days, and What do you want to discuss? Do my friends who whether the names of Donelson & Armstrong when this resolution gets out, I expect the mildiffer with me upon the subject of this contract should be put at the head of the resolution. But lennium will come. want to get up a war between us upon the com- I am done upon the subject upon which I was Mr. HALL, (interrupting.) I do not know promise measures, whether they are proper and speaking. I leave that to the magnanimity of that I perfectly understand the resolution which is right? I do pray you, avert such an evil. I am men who have never failed to show it when they under discussion. I do understand it to propose frank to say, that such a calamity to the Demo- have been put to the test; I leave that to the mag- to make the action of the committee definite with cratic party should be avoided; and the man who nanimity of men who are called upon on this occa- regard to this printing. Now, l ask the gentleman undertakes to arraign any one here for the pur- sion to regard the admonition which I have in an from Indiana if he will accept the amendment pose of making an additional sore, which is now humble way suggested to them, “ Peace, be still.” || which I hold in my hand, and which is in these in a fair way of being healed, is stabbing the party | Do I propose to Northern men to put any cup to words: that gives him power. I can say to my friends their lips? Do I require them to say that every Provided, That no contract made by said committee shall who voted against these measures, that I feel line, sentence, syllable, comma and semi-colon of | be of any binding force or effect until the same is reported proud of their association. I feel that I went fur- || the fugitive slave law is right? Do I require my
to and approved of by both Houses of Congress. ther upon these great Southern questions than any honorable friend from North Carolina (Mr. VEN- Mr. GORMAN. The Committee on Printing man north of Mason and Dixon's line. I feel ABLE] to say that every line and syllable of the are to make a contract under the law of 1846. can say to gentlemen who are not with us upon Texas boundary bill is right. I do not require | That law provides that it shall be a part of their the compromise measures, “ Peace, be still!" any such thing I do require acquiescence in duty to attend to this portion of the public busiDoes that voice-does that warning come from a these measures; I desire peaceable acquiescence in ness. When the committee have made a contract Democrat who has wavered? Does that voice | them.
with Donelson & Armstrong, they will do just come from a Democrat who has ever yet thrown I come back now to the question of this print- | as they have done in the case of Mr. Hamilion, a fire-brand into the midst of his Southern | ing; and I appeal to the gentlemen upon the other and in other cases. I have before me the contract friends? Does that warning come from one who side of the House to know whether, if they held | with Trenholm & Belt; the committee reported it has ever turned to the right or left upon the great the power and had this contract to give, and the to this House, and it is marked - House of Rep: eternal principles of non-intervention? Then I say choice was left to them, at the same fair and rea- resentatives Miscellaneous Documents, No. 10." to them that the prolongation of this discussion sonable rates, they would not give it to their po- The contract is laid before the House; everybody will run my friend from North Carolina, (Mr. litical friends?
reads it; everybody knows what it is; and if that VENABLE,) 'my friend from Virginia, (Mr. Bo- Mr. BELL. No, not without competition. contract has upon its face an unreasonable rate cock,) and my friend from Mississippi, [Mr. Mr. GORMAN. Ah ! then there is a gentle of compensation, it is within the province of this NABERS,) into a dilemma. I hope if they love the man sui generis. He belongs to a different race House at any moment to arraign that contract union, harmony, and organization of that great of men from any that I have cver yet seen, He and to know the causes-the why and the whereparty that brought them into power, that they will heed the voice of warning.
must belong to some party that I have never yet || fore.
heard of. [Laughter.] He would not prefer a Mr. HALL. The gentleman does not underMr. BOCOCK. I ask, what I do not often ask political friend-one possessing all the elements of stand me. I do not want to get into any difficulty upon this floor, that the gentleman will yield me qualification to a political opponent! God save with any contractors to do the printing of this the floor for one moment. I ask this because of
me from such a political partisan as that! He House. "I want the contract, when it is entered my very sincere respect and regard for the gentle is an Ishmaelite. [Laughter.] He must have his into, to bind both us and them. I do not want man from Indiana, [Mr. Gorman.) I do not often hand against everybody and everybody's hand, | any afterclaps, any quarrels, any difficulties of ask any gentleman who is speaking to allow me I apprehend, must be turned against him. misunderstandings; and I prefer, therefore, that the privilege of introducing one word while he is In conclusion, allow me to say to this House the action of this committee shall come to us for speaking: While the gentleman from Indiana is that I ask my friends to reconsider this question. approval. Let us have no more of these discusproclaiming peace to the Democratic party upon Mr. BELL. Will the gentleman allow me to sions, whether we shall set aside a contract after one subject, I ask him if he does not know that make an explanation ?
we have entered into it. there are other subjects upon which the Demo- Mr. GORMAN. Why, yes, with pleasure, if
Mr. GORMAN. I do understand the gentlecratic party are divided? I ask if he does not feel it is not too long.
man's amendment, and I now say that if the in that loyal and honest heart of his, that there is Mr. BELL, "I will not make it long.
Speaker decides that I have a right to accept that as much need of harmony upon those other ques- Mr. GORMAN. I want to know, first, if the amendmeat, I will most cheerfully do it. I have tions as in relation to the compromise? And I gentleman is the one who answered me just now? | not the slightest objection that our contract shall be ask him, if he expects us here to say Peace, when Mr. BELL. I am the man. (Laughter.] his friends—I do not say him--proclaim peace
reported to this House, and that the House shall
Mr. GORMAN. I am glad to see you, sir. confirm or rejectit. My friend from Missouri must only upon one subject, and give us war to the [Renewed laughter.]
see, however, that the House will have to repeal the knife upon other vital subjects ? I ask him if it Mr. BELL. I understood the gentleman to law of 1846, before we can do that. That law left will do to tell me that the friends of the Wash- make an appeal to the members on this side of the it to the Committee on Printing. Still I have no ington Union will give us peace upon the compro- House, knowing, at the same time, that if he kept kind of objection to the amendment. I will accept mise, when they are giving us war, and war to the floor under the permission of the other gentle- it—if it is in my power to do so-if it will reconthe knife, upon the subject of State-rights? Mr. GORMAN. I apprehend that more evi
man (Mr. Skelton) who lets it out, they would cile the feelings of any individual. But, why ask deuce has been given by the honorable gentleman
have no opportunity to reply. I may have been me to accept it unless it will do that? from Virginia, (Mr. Bocock,) and that it is the
out of order in saying "No, not without com- Mr. HALL. I will say to the gentleman, that
Mr. HAVEN, (Mr. GORMAN yielding the floor.) , stinging the very heart of the Democratic party? tant price for the work. Ywould do as any pru- | some portion, at least, of the Committee on Printe
individual of my own party, by giving an exorbi- | should be a misapprehension as to the views that Where is there an individual who has witnessed dent individual would. the assault of my gallant friend from Virginia, Mr. GORMAN. I presume the gentleman authority conferred upon that committee by the [Mr. Bocock,] who will not agree with me in would,
joint resolution of 1846. saying, "Peace, be still." Supposing that one of our friends, who conducts a newspaper, does not
Mr. BELL. Now, I understand that by this I understand that it is the opinion of the Joint resolution you tie your own hands.
Committee on Printing, that the printing of these
crat here who does not see a monster exhibiting jeopardy
the interests of my country to favor an 1 desire to make a suggestion or two, lest le