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which it is proposed we shall pass. He seems to opinion which will be at all available, we should not authorized to print it. This resolution merely suppose that we are merely to refer this subject to get it from a full Senate. I am not at all opposed directs the Joint Committee on Printing, who are a joint committee of the two Houses; that that to the printing of these census returns. I wish it | presumed to know all about this subject, to concommittee is to take some preliminary steps; and to be done by competent persons, and I wish them tract at fair prices with the individuals named in that, after the joint resolution passes, we are to be well paid. I have no sympathy with that the resolution for printing just such matter as Conhave some control over the subject. But the effect | wretched policy which endeavors to save money gress declared in express terms should be preof it is to put the committee in the place of Con- to the Government by inducing people to come pared-nothing more and nothing less. Hence there gress as to the disposition of this printing. They | forward, and by competition make bids at ruinous is no force in the argument that we should delay are to make the contract; they are to make no re- rates, and either lose money or resort to the trick the consideration of the subject for the purpose of port to us; they are to get no further directions of foisting upon the public worthless and badly enabling this bureau to lay before us all the matter from us; their contract is not to be sanctioned by executed documents. “I think it is unbecoming which they have collected. I am willing, howus. When made by them, it is a contract of the for us to obtain from any man his time and ser- ever, that the resolution should lie over to next Gorernment. The Senator said that the census vices for anything less than a fair equivalent. But | Monday. returns ought to be published; that they are at the same time I would suggest that this resolu- After a brief conversation as to the proper course vanted-ihat they are needed. I asked the Sen- tion should not be pressed at this time, if for no to pursue, the joint resolution was made the speator for what? What we are now considering is other reason, according to the usages of the body. cial order for Tuesday week, the 6th January, at a mere question of time. Everybody admits that | The suggestion of the Senator from Connecticut, half past twelve o'clock. they ought to be published; but I desire to know and the reasons he has assigned why he has not

RECEPTION OF KOSSUTH. where is the necessity? What public purpose is heretofore had an opportunity of being heard, to be served by having them printed now? What | ought to induce us to let this measure go over

A message was received from the President of public injury will be sustained by delaying the until our next sitting day. If the publication is

the United States, by M. P. FILLMORE, Esq., his publication a week? That is all that is asked. It | delayed for ten days it will answer all the pur

Private Secretary: is impossible to assign any reason why there || poses for which it is intended.

Mr. PRESIDENT: I am directed by the President of the should be such hoc haste in the publication. Mr. GWIN. The Senator from North Caro

United States to inform the Senate that he has approved Surely, they ought to be published; and that in a lina (Mr. BADGER) speaks of hot haste.” Is it

and signed the joint resolution of the two Houses of Con

gress entitled “A resolution of welcome to Louis Kosreasonable time. But they ought to be published not known to every Senator that this subject was

suth." in such a manner as to do credit to the country, so brought to our attention near a year ago by the On the motion of Mr. SHIELDS, the President as to perpetuate in the best manner the materials President or by the head of one of the Depart- | pro tem. was authorized to supply the vacancy contained in the returns. But they ought to be ments? Is it not known that it was pressed then, | occasioned by the resignation of Mr. Foote in published with some reasonable care, that there and that we should have acted on it then? Has

the special committee appointed under a resolushall be no unnecessary expenditure; and particu- not this resolution been before us almost from the tion of the Senate, to wait upon Louis Kossuth larly in passing this joint resolution for the pub- commencement of this Congress! I do not think

on his arrival at the capital, and introduce him to firation of the census returns, we should, as has || there has been any “hot haste” about it. The the Senate of the United States. been suggested by my friend from Maryland, [Mr. question presented is, whether we shall take this The PRESIDENT appointed Mr. Cass. PRATT,] not turn the Superintendent of the Cen- | up and act upon it. If it is taken up now, as long The committee, therefore, consists of Messrs. sus Bureau into a historiographer, and biographer as it is before the Senate it will postpone other SHIELDS, SEWARD, and Cass. of the United States, and of all the counties in the special orders. The object which I have in view Mr. SHIELDS subsequently rose, and made States thereof-for I presume that this must con- is to press the business of the Senate. I am not

the following report from the special committee: tain information as to "the first families” in those anxious to press the consideration of this resolu

The special committee appointed to wait upon Louis parts of the United States where they are so fortu- tion now, because there is a thin Senate; but I Kossuth on his arrival at the capital, and introduce him nale as to have first families. I think we have a want it taken up, so that if it is not settled to-day, to the Senate of the United States, have had the same right to have some little time to inquire into this it may come up from day to day as unfinished under consideration, and recommend that the same promatter. business until it is settled.

ceedings be pursued as in the case of General Lafayette, to

wit: That the chairman of the committee introduce him But again, Mr. President, I ask you, if such a Mr. BADGER. I think the Senator from Cali- in these words: “We present Louis Kossuth to the Senate thing has ever been known since you have served fornia did not distinctly understand the Senator of the United States." Upon which the Senators are recomin the Senate-certainly it never has to my knowl. || from Connecticut, (Mr. SMITH.] He said that in

mended to rise, and the President will invite him to be seated.

JAMES SHIELDS, elge since I have been here-of a measure of con- consequence of a cold he was not able to address

WILLIAM H. SEWARD, siderable importance, involving the expenditure of the Senate to-day:

LEWIS CASS. money to the amount, as some gentlemen say, of Mr. GWIN. I certainly did not hear that. The PRESIDENT stated the question to be on a million and a half of dollars, being hurried But all that I have to say is, that I want this reso- the adoption of the report, Through this body during the Christmas holidays? | lution taken up for consideration, so that it may The report was adopted. Agaia, the Senator from Connecticut says he de- be taken up as unfinished business at the next Fires to be heard upon the subject of the resolution. meeting of the Senate.

DESTRUCTION OF THE CONGRESS LIBRARY. He gives his reasons why; though ready himself, Mr. BRIGHT. I certainly did not understand

The PRESIDENT pro tempore laid before the he has not had an opportunity heretofore of being the honorable Senator from Connecticut as objeet- Senate a letter from John S. Meehan, Librarian beard. He wishes to be heard by a full Senate, ng to the consideration of the resolution on the to Congress, communicating information of the deand ost by a body consisting of liitle more than a ground of his inability to address the Senate to

struction by fire, on the 24th instant, of the books, Constitutional quorum, and he asks the indulgence day. I should not have pressed this matter, if I paintings, statuary, medals, and other property of of the Senate for the postponement of this subject | had so understood him.

ihe Government, in the principal saloon of the endl the day following our next meeting. I ask Mr. BADGER. I understand that my state- Library of Congress; which was read, as follows: for, er, if, in your experience of the proceedings ment was a mistake. It was the Senator from

LIBRARY OF CONGRESS, December 25, 1851. of the body, such a request at this season was Kentucky, (Mr. Underwood,) and not the Sena- Sir: It is my very painful duty to communicate to Coneter denied to any Senator? This resolution is an tor from Connecticut, who pleaded indisposition.

gress the destruction of the books, paintings, statuary, important one besides and beyond the amount of Mr. BRIGHT. I am not disposed to press the

medals, and other property of the principal Saloon of their

Library, yesterday morning, by fire that originated in the publie money which it is proposed to expend. I consideration of this subject on a thin Senate. I room, in a manner to me altogether unaccountable, as no confess, that to me the amount of the expenditure | do not desire this resolution to pass unless it has

fires have been used in it for a long time, and no candles, ja not the primary consideration. If this work be merit, and unless it ought to pass. I introduced

lamps, or other lights, have ever been used in it during the

whole time that it has been under my charge. published, I wish it to be published well; I wish it at an early day of the session, believing that it I have not been able to ascertain the precise number of those who print it to be well paid for their work. was important that the work should be entered the books that were destroyed, but believe that it may bo But this involves another question-namely, as to upon. It will be a very voluminous work. It estimated at about thirty-five thousand.

It is truly gratifying to have it in my power to add, that our diverting from, and ultimately subverting, the will require time; and it will require the expend

about twenty thousand volumes of books that were in the spatem which has prevailed here of printing by | iture of a large sum of money, but nothing like Law Room, and in the two rooms adjoining the Saloon of contract.

the sum named by the honorable Senator from the Library, are safe. Many of these books belonged to the I agree with the Senator from Indiana (Mr. Maryland, (Mr. Pratt,) and the honorable Sen- library of the late President Jefferson, that was purchased

by Congress in the year 1815. Beirut) entirely in regard to the contract system. ator from North Carolina, (Mr. Mangum.] The They constitute the several chapters in the Catalogue of I am opposed to it. I have been willing for years cost of the printing of the last census amounted to the Library, agreeably to Mr. Jefferson's classification, unto vote for a law or joint resolution to abolish it. less than $200,000, and I feel authorized to say, on der the following beads: Ancient History; American HisOur experience in this body, as well as that of inquiry which I have made, that the cost of this

tory; Ecclesiastical History; Chemistry; Mineralogy and

Conchology; Moral Philosophy; Law of Nature and Nathe other House, has shown that under it we get || printing will amount to less than $300,000. tions; the five chapters composing the law department of documents wretchedly published upon bad paper, The honorable Senator from Maryland inquires the Library ; Religion ; Politics, (including the science of wich worse printing and still worse binding. For | what it is we are to print. He thinks the gentle | Legislation, Political Economy, Commerce, Banking Staone, I am tired and sick of it. The publications man who has charge of this subject ought to lay

tistics, &c.) part of the chapter on Architecture, and the

entire chapter on Music ; Dialogue and Epistolary; Logic; are disgraceful to the body that has them pub- on our tables the forms of the returns. I under

Rhetoric and Orations, and the Theory of Criticism. lished; and the probability is that in most of them, stood him to say that there is a great deal of his- I sincerely hope that the searching investigation Conin a few years, the ink will have destroyed the torical matter connected with the census returns

gress will give to the distressing event, which every lover miserable substitute for paper, and leave them which will be placed before us to be printed. The

of science and literature must deeply deplore, will lead to

a detection of the causes that produced it, and to the adopillegible. My mind has been made up on that answer to his inquiry is to be found in the law of

tion of means that will prevent, in all future time, a recursabject, and I agree with the Senator from Indiana | the last Congress. We are to print the enumera- rence of the sad calamity. in regard to it. When this resolution comes up, tion of the inhabitants of the United States and

With the most respectul regard, I have the honor to be, I should be glad to see a provision appended to it such statistics as shall be reported by the com

your obedient servant,

JOHN S. MEEHAN, Librarian. for repealing the joint resolution or law under mittee appointed by this body to prepare the work. To the Hon. W. R. King, which the contract system exists. But if the If the Census Bureau has collected historical mat- President of the Senaté, U. S. Congress. Senator from Indiana 'considers for a moment, he ter relating to Maryland and other States of the

A message was received from the House of Rep, will see that in order to have an expression of | Union not contemplated by the law, we clearly are resentatives by Mr. FORNEY, their Clerk:

measures it is proper to take to prevent the occurrence of a similar accident liereafter. And the said committee be also instructed to examine the proposed mode of construction of the addition to the Capitol, and ascertain whether it is intended to render the same tire-proof, and, if not, what should be done to secure it, as far as possible, from the danger of fire.

Resolved, that the Committee on the Library be instructed to exainine and report what measures should be taken immediately to procure such books as may be most indispensable; and what plan it is best to adopt to procure a library, which, in its extent and in the character of the works, shall be sufficiently useful and honorable to the country.

The Senate then adjourned to Friday next.


Mr. PRESIDENT: The House of Representatives have passed a joint resolution anttorizing an inquiry into the origin of the late fire, by which the Congressional Library was destroyed. Also a bill inaking appropriation to meet the expenses incurred in consequence of the late fire at tho Capitol; in which resolution and bill they request the concurrence of the Senate.

The resolution was read a first and second time, as follows: Joint Resolution authorizing an inquiry into the origin of

the late fire, by which the Congressional Library was destroyed.

Resolved, That the Joint Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds be instructed to inquire into the origin of the fire by which the Congressional Library was conruined, on the 24th instant, and whether the same occurred ironi the nerligence of any otħcer of Government, or person in the eruployment of either or both llouses of Congress, or from the defective construction of the furnaces or fiues, or was the act ot' an incendiary; and also the extent of injury to the building, and the best mode of reconstructing the Library Room, so as to afford perfect security in the future against the like disaster, and report the facts to the House. The said committee shall have power to send for and examnine, on oath, such persons as may have information touching the premises.

Mr. BADGER. I move to refer that resolution to the Committee on Public Buildings.

The resolution was so referred.

The bill was read the first and second time, as follows: An Act inaking an appropriation to meet the expense in

curred in consequence of the late fire at the Capitol. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the sum on tive thousand dollars be, and the same is hereby appropriated, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, to be expended, or so much thereof as may be necessary, under the direction of the Conimissioner of Public Buildings, in discharge of expenses incurred in the extinguishment of the late fire in the Library Room, the removal oi tie rubbish, and the preservation of such books and other articles as may bave been saved, and the construction of a tin roof for the preservation and protection of the public building now exposed.

Mr. CASS. I have another section which I wish to add to the bill. It is a short section, simply that the sum of - -(say ten thousand dollars) be appropriated to the purchase of a new library.

The amendment is as follows:

And be it further enacted, That the sum of -dollars be and the same is hereby appropriated for the purchase of books for the Library of Congress, to be expended under the direction of the Joint Committee on the Library.

On the motion of Mr. BADGER, the bill and amendment were referred to the Committee on Finance.

Mr. WHITCOMB, from the Committee on Public Buildings, to whom was referred the resolution authorizing an inquiry into the origin of the late fire, by which the Congressional Library was destroyed, reported it without amendment.

On the motion of Mr. WALKER, the Senate proceeded to consider the said resolution as in Committee of the Whole.

Mr. CASS. I regret that the resolution does not contain any provision about constructing the wings of the Capitol so as to render them indestructible. Our public buildings are constructed in a shameful manner. I wish to have an amendment inserted as to the construction of the wings, but I suppose that cannot be done without delaying the investigation. I am therefore willing to postpone it.

The resolution was reported to the Senate without amendment.

Mr. BADGER. I wish to ask whether if that joint resolution should pass in its present form, it would have to go to the President of the United States for his signature?

The PRESIDENT. If the resolution shall be passed in its present shape, it will require the concurrence of the President. The usual mode is to pass a concurrent resolution—the House to appoint a committee to act jointly with such committee as may be appointed by the Senate.

Mr. BADGER.' That thought occurred to me. It seems to me to be a very great outrage that we should pass a resolution to inquire into a fire in our building in such form that it cannot go into effect without the signature of the Presideni of the United States. The resolution ought to be amended. It should not pass in its present form. 1 move to lay it on the table for the present.

The motion was agreed to.

Mr. CASS submitted the following resolutions for consideration:

Resolved, That a committee be appointed, jointly with such committee as they be appointed on the part of the House of Representatives, to inquire into and report the cause of the recent fire in the Capitol; and also, what


TUESDAY, December 30, 1851. The House met at twelve o'clock, m. Prayer by the Rev. Mr. Butler.

The Journal of Friday last was read and approved.

Mr. Gilmore, of Pennsylvania, appearedgo day, and, after taking the usual' oath to support the Constitution of the United States, took his seat.

RECEPTION OF KOSSUTH. Mr. CARTTER. I move that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union, with a view of proposing a resolution in the committee. I hope the House will permit me, at least, to make a single remark. I wish to say that the friends of the resolution do not contemplate any action of the committee or the House towards opening this Hall to any harangues, but simply to carry out quietly an act of courtesy, the initiative of which the nation has already taken.

The resolution was then read, as followe: Resolved, That a committee of five be appointed by the Speaker, to wait upon Louis Kossuth, and introduce him to the House of Representatives.

Mr. McMULLIN'objected.

Mr. CARTTER moved that the rules be suspended for the purpose, and on that motion demanded the yeas and nays; which were ordered.

Mr. BAYLY, of Virginia. I would suggest, that if the motion of the gentleman from Ohio prevails, the Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union cannot take up that resolution. They can entertain no subjeci but such as has been referred to it.

The SPEAKER. That question is not now before the House.

Mr. McMULLIN. - Is it in order to move a call of the House?

The SPEAKER. It is in order.

Mr. McMULLIN. Then I make such a motion.

The question was put, whether there should be a call, and determined in the negative.

The question was then taken upon Mr. Cartter's motion, and resulted-yeas 103, nays 49; as follows:

YEAS--Messrs. Willis Allen, Allison, John Appleton, William Appleton, Babcock, Bartlett, Beale, Bissell, Bowie, Bowne, John H. Boyd, Brenton, Briggs, Buell, Busby, Joseph Cable, Lewis D. Campbell, Cartier, Chapman, Chastain, Cleveland, Clingman, Conger, George T. Davis, John G. Davis, Dean, Disney, Doty, Durkee, Eastman, Ficklin, Floyd, Fowler, Henry M. Fuller, Thomas J. D. Fuller, Gaylord, Gentry, Giddings, Gilmore, Gorman, Green, Grow, Hascall, Hendricks, Horsford, John W. Howe, Thomas M. Howe, Hunter, Ingersoll, Ives, Jolm Johnson, Robert W. Johnson, Daniel T. Jones, George G. King, Preston King, Kuhns, Letcher, Mace, Mann, Edward C. Marshall, McDonald, Meachain, Miner, Molony, John Moore, Nabers, Newton, Olds, Peaslee, Penniman, Perkins, Rantoul, Richardson, Riddle, Robie, Robinson, Sackeu, Schermerhorn, Scudder, David L. Seymour, Origen S. Seymour, Skelton, Smart, Snow, Benjamin Stanton, Frederick P. Stanton, Richard H. Stanton, Stratton, Stuart, Sutherland, Sweetser, George W. Thompson, Thurston, Townshend, Tuck, Walbridge, Walsh, Ward. Washburn, Welch, Addison White, Wildrick, and Yates-103.

NAYS-Messss. Abercrombie, Aiken, Ashe, Averett, Barrere, Thomas H. Bayly, Bocock, Bragg, A. G. Brown, E. C. Cabell, Caldwell, Churchwell, Clark, Cullom, Dockery, Edmundson, Ewing, Fitch, "Goodenow, Hall, Hamilton, Harper, Isham G. Harris, Sampson W. Harris, Haven, Hebard, Henn, Hillyer, Jackson, Andrew Johnson, James Johnson, George W. Jones, Humphrey Marshall, Martin, McMullin, Millson, Morehead, Murphy, Orr, Powell, Savage, Scurry, Smith, Stanly, Taylor, Venable, Walace, Watkins, and Williams-49.

So the rules were suspended, and the House resolved itself into Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union, (Mr. Jones, of Tennessee, in the chair.)

Mr. CARTTER. I move that the committee take up the resolution which I send to the Clerk's desk; and I ask that it may be reported.

The CHAIRMAN. The first business in order is the resolutions proposing to refer the President's message to the appropriate committees.

Mr. CARTTER. Did the Chair hear my motion?

The CHAIRMAN. What was the gentleman's motion?

Mr. CARTTER. My motion was to take up a resolution which I sent to the Clerk's table for the consideration of the committee as its first busi

The CHAIRMAN. The rule requires that the business shall be taken up in the order in which it stands on the calendar.

Mr. CARTTER. I move, then, to lay aside all other business, and take up my resolution.

The CHAIRMAN. The first business is the resolutions referring the President's message.

Mr. CARTTER. One of the subjects referred to in the President's message is the subject of my resolution. I move to take up that subject in the form of my resolution, and as upon it.

The CHAIRMAN. That motion is not in order.

Mr. CARTTER. Do I understand the Chair to decide that it is not in order to take up a subject embraced in the President's message which has been referred to this committee, and which is imbodied in the proposed resolution?

The CHAIRMAN. It is not in order to make that motion, as it is not the first business in order upon the calendar.

Mr. CARTTER. Well, then, I move to lay aside the resolutions relating to the President's message, with a view to take up my resolution.

The question being taken, the motion was agreed to, and the resolutions were laid aside.

The CHAIRMAN stated the next business in order to be the joint resolution authorizing the Architect of the Capitol to continue in employment the mechanics, laborers, and others employed upon the two wings thereof.

Mr. CIRTTER moved to lay that resolution aside.

Mr. WALSH. I hope that resolution will not be laid aside, but will be acted upon at once. I am perfectly willing to do every appropriate honor to Louis Kossuth, and to extend to him a hearty welcome; but I think that our own people who are suffering, are entitled to precedence. I hope, therefore, that the motion will not prevail

Mr. RICHARDSON demanded tellers; which were ordered; and Messrs. Stanton, of Tennessee, and CARTTER were appointed.

The question was then taken, and there were ayes 85, noes 58. So the resolution was laid aside.

Mr. CARTTER. I would now inquire of the Chairman, what orders have precedence of the resolution which I have submitted ?

The CHAIRMAN. Nothing. The committee has disposed of the business referred to it by the House and now has nothing before it.

Mr. CARTTER. I now move the resolution which I have sent to the Clerk's table, and ask that it may be reported!

The CHAIRMAN. It is not in order. The committee has no business before it.

Mr. CARTTER. But I move this resolution as business, and I again

call for its reading. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair has informed the committee that, having disposed of the business referred to it by the House, there is no business before it, and it is the opinion of the Chair that the Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union cannot originate business.

Mr. CARTTER. I appeal from that decision, and I ask that my resolution may be read, in order that the committee may vote intelligibly on that appeal.

Mr. FICKLIN. I desire to inquire of the Chair, if a resolution cannot as well be offered before the Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union, as before a standing committee or any other committee?

Several MEMBERS. Certainly.

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair has before stated that the Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union has charge of, and jurisdiction over, only such business as may have been referred to it by the House.

In reference to the standing committees of the House, the Chair is aware that the rule is different. The rules of the House prescribe the duties

to it.

and jurisdiction of each of the standing commit- petent for us to take up any business which has to Kossuih, in connection with that part of the tees, but do no! prescribe the duty of this commit- been submitted to the committee. The fact that it message relating to him, would be in order. tee. The Chair, therefore, decides that this com- has once been laid aside is no reason why we may Mr. STANTON, of Tennessee. I do not think mittee can originate no business. From this not take it up again.

there can be any difficulty in regard to this quesdecision the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. CARTTER] A MEMBER. We have not laid aside the Pres- tion. It seems io be admitted on all sides that the appeals.

ident's message; we have only laid aside one reso- President's message is before the committee. This Mr. BAYLY, of Virginia. I would suggest lution connected with that message; it is in our resolution is pertinent to that message, and is another reason why the decision just given by ihe power to take up any other resolution relating therefore in order. Now, sir, the President's Chair is a correct one, besides the conclusive one

message is still before the committee, and we canwhich the Chair has given.

Mr. CLINGMAN. That was precisely my not discharge ourselves from the consideration of Mr. CLINGMAN. I object, unless there is io ' understanding. If the facts are as stated by the it. We have not attempted to do so. We have be an opportunity granted for reply.

gentleman from Virginia, [Mr. Bayly,) we can merely laid aside the consideration of particular Mr. BAYLY. I rise to a point of order. take up the subject again; but if it is already be- resolutions in reference to that message, for the

The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman is out of fore the committee, why so much the better. express purpose, as understood by everybody, of order. There is nothing before the committee ex- Mr. GORMAN. I desire to say just one word. taking up this very resolution in reference to Koscept the appeal from the decision of the Chair. It seems to me that the practice of the House jus-suth-a subject which is referred to in that mes

Mr. BAYLY. Well; I meant to debate that tifies the introduction of this resolution. I under- sage. The message is still before the committee, appeal.

stand that it has been the practice in Committee of and we can take up this resolution, or any other Mr. CLINGMAN. I object to its being de- the Whole on the state of the Union, on the prin- which is equally pertinent to the President's mesbated.

ciple of right, to report a resolution asking to be sage. That is what we propose to do. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair decides that in discharged from the further consideration of any Mr. STEPHENS. That is not the question at the present case the appeal is debatable, although subject. I understand the President's message all. I understand that the President's message the Chair is aware it is departing from the general at least, the general subjects contained in it-is has been laid aside. rules which govern the committee.

suill before the committee. If so, it seems to me Mr. STANTON, of Tennessee. Not at all. Mr. CARTTER. I appeal from the last de- l that a resolution relating to it, but contemplating But if it had been, we could take it up again for’the cision of the Chair.

no action in committee further than a report to the purpose of passing this resolution, which is perThe CHAIRMAN. The appeal is not in order. House, can be originated here. It seems to me tinent. Mr. BAYLY. I do not intend to detain the it may be introduced (if I may be permitted to use Mr. STEPHENS. When we take up the mescommittee, but I do intend to say that I think the the expression) by common right. As I under- sage, then this resolution will be in order. decision of the Chair is clearly right. This reso- stand it, this resolution, which the gentleman Mr. STANTON, of Tennessee. The Presilation proposes to raise a select committee. Now, from Ohio (Mr. Cartter) proposes, is simply to dent's message is still before the committee. This the Committee of the Whole on the state of the refer the matter to the House." It is not to origin- | resolution is pertinent to it, and in taking it up, Union cannot raise such a committee. It is, of ate any new business—it is not a subject of legis. we take up that particular branch of the message. itself, only a committee. Such a committee as the lative business to which it refers: it is a matter It is therefore perfectly in order, and in the hands resolution contemplates can only be raised by the entirely within the jurisdiction of the committee, of the committee. House itself.

totally irrespective of any legislative action. That The CHAIRMAN. The President's message Mr. CLINGMAN. I must say that it seems is my view of it.

was first before the committee. The committee to me the position taken by the gentleman from Mr. OLDS. It seems to me that we have fallen by a vote laid the message aside, and it is not now Virginia (Mr. BAYLY) is a very singular one. It into error in not considering the condition which under consideration. After all the business upon is true that the Committee of the Whole on tlie this committee is now in. According to parlia- | the calendar was disposed of by the committee, a state of the Union cannot appoint a committee..mentary law, the Committee of the Whole can proposition was made by the gentleman from Ohio This resolution, however, proposes no such thing. act only with reference to such matters as are re- Mr. Cartter] to introduce a resolution. The It proposes only to recommend to the House the ferred to it by the House; but the Committee of Chair decided that the Committee of the Whole appointment of the committee.

the Whole on the state of the Union is not subject on the state of the Union could originate no subA message was here received from the Presi- to such restrictions, because it has under consid- | ject within itself. It could only act upon such dent of the United States, announcing that he had eration the state of the Union, and it is raised for questions as had been referred to it by the House. approved and signed a joint resolution providing the purpose of taking into consideration every- From that decision the gentleman from Ohio took for the printing of additional copies of the Jour- thing pertaining to the Union. And when you, an appeal. The Chair, for reasons first assigned, nals and other documents.]

Mr. Chairman, leave that chair, you are compelled is still of opinion that the decision is correct; and Mr. C. continued: I was about to say that the to make a report to the Speaker different from that for other reasons, he is confirmed in that opinion, Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union which you would make if you were chairman of and more strongly than before. By referring to can recommend to the House the passage of any the Committee of the Whole-not on the state of the 134th rule, it will be found that it is provided resolution or bill which any other committee can the Union. You are compelled to report that the that the rules of proceedings in the House shall be recomiend; and it can originate a resolution such Committee of the Whole have had under consid- | observed in a Committee of the Whole House, so u any other committee might originate for the eration the state of the Union generally, and spe- far as they may be applicable-except the rule appointment of a committee, or for any particular | cially the subject upon which the committee had i limiting the times of speaking--and no member purpose. We have repeatedly had recommenda- been engaged. Let me refer to precedent. If I shall speak iwice to any question, until every memtrots for the appointment of committees upon recollect aright, during the last Congress a gentle ber choosing to speak shall have spoken. Now particular subjects, emanating from the standing man from Wisconsin was allowed to introduce one of the standing rules of this House is, that no committees of this House. They report their rec- into the Committee of the Whole a bill to admit | member shall introduce a resolution or make a of mendations to the House, but the House adopt | California into the Union, and he was sustained proposition except by unanimous consent, or when. the resolations and appoint the committees. If by the House. If you will go back and examine ihe States are called for resolutions. That rule, the Committee of the Whole should pass this res- the practice of this House, you will find that in then, is applicable to the Committee of the Whole okation, it will not undertake to appoint the spe

Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union, on the state of the Union. Suppose that this rescial committee. The resolution, in the event of some of the most important war measures have olution had been offered to the House, and objected its passage, will be reported to the House; and if been originated, and have been reported from that to: no motion could have been made, under the the House then adopt it, the Speaker will appoint committee to the House for its action. It is dif- rules, to suspend them for its admission, consethe committee. Its appointment will be the action ferent from the Committee of the Whole; it is the quently it could not have been introduced. A moof the House, and not of the Committee of the Committee of the Whole upon the state of the tion could only be made on Monday to suspend Whole on the state of the Union. I think, there- Union; and you have under consideration every- the rules, and this would be the only way, in the fore, that the Chair will not hesitate to decide this thing pertaining to the state of the Union; and House, in which this resolution could be intro-, question—if it be a matter of division-that the therefore you can originate measures of this kind duced upon any other day than Monday, except emmittee have the right to recommend this reso- in it, and report them to the House for its action by unanimous consent. urn to the House. This very subject (I mean thereon.

Mr. STUART. I wish to inquire of the Chair that of Kossuth) has been referred to this com- Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. Do I under- how his decision, that this appeal is debatable, mittee, among various others, in the President's stand the gentleman to say that the Committee of can be sustained; it being an appeal founded upon message. We all know that it is the practice of the Whole upon the state of the Union have ori- the order of business? this committee, when various subjects are re- ginated any proposition?

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair stated, when ferred to it in the President's message, to report

Mr. OLĎS. I so understand it. Certain it is this appeal was taken, that it was a new question, upon one part of that message on one day, and that during the last Congress the gentleman from and for that reason he would decide that it was upon another part on another day. We are not Wisconsin introduced a bill into that committee debatable. The Chair is now perfectly clear that pbliged to make one report only upon that message. for ihe admission of California into the Union. the decision appealed from is right. The Chair I submit, therefore, that, as the President's Mr. STEPHENS. That bill was introduced has no pride of opinion about it, and is perfectly message is now before us, and as this subject is in connection with the President's message. It willing that the committee should overrule it, and

was never reported to the House as an original say what shall be done. iake this subject up, and report this resolution to proposition; if it had been I undertake to say that (Cries of' “ Question !” “ Question !”]

it would never have been sustained by this House. Tellers were demanded and ordered, and Messrs. A MEMBER. It is not before the committee. There is not in the history of this country, a case VENABLE and CARTtEr were appointed. MT.CLINGMAN. I understood the Chairman in which the Committee of the Whole on the state The question was then taken, and the tellers reto decide that it was before the committee. of the Union originated any matter. They could ported-ayes 68, noes 80. Mr. BAYLY. It has been laid aside.

not do it, and have no power to do it. The com- So the decision of the Chair was overruled. Mr. CLINGMAN. Then we can take it up mittee has already laid aside the consideration of Mr. CARTTER. I now offer the resolution,

that a committee of five be appointed by the Chair business regularly before the committee, it is com li now under consideration, the resolution in relation to wait upon Louis Kossuth, upon his arrival at


the House.


the capital, and introduce him to the House of without rules, as they intend to get the subject before he reached the shores of England, became Representatives. before the committee. (Laughter.]

a propagandist. At Southampton, almost in hearMr. BAYLY, of Virginia. I rise to a question Mr. STEPHENS. It then amounts to this, |ing of the coast of Ireland, where the shrieks of of order. The point I make is, that special com

that we are in the midst of revolution. [Laughter.] || the families of Mitchell and O'Brien had but lately mittees can only be appointed by the Speaker,

Mr. BAYLY, of Virginia. From that decision rent the air, he eulogized the British Government, unless the House order otherwise. This is a propof the Chair I take an appeal.

who had awarded to those patriots the fate from osition to appoint a special committee by the Mr. CARTTER. I rise to a question of order. which the intervention of our Government had reschairman of the Committee of the Whole on the I understood the Chair to state that the resolution || cued him. Believing that there are no degrees in state of the Union. I submit it cannot be done. was before the committee for their action. After || despotism, I did not comprehend the propriety or

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair is of opinion that decision of the Chair, and without an appeal || admire the taste of that eulogy. Since he has that the point of order raised by the gentleman being taken from it, the gentleman from Georgia | landed on our shores he has disavowed the charfrom Virginia is well taken.

[Mr. STEPHENS] first, and then afterwards the acter of an emigrant seeking an asylum in our Mr. CÅRTTER. I will modify it by inserting gentleman from Virginia, (Mr. Bayly,] rise to ques- || country, but is an avowed propagandist of political the word “Speaker” in the place of the word tions of order as to the reception of the resolution heresy, so far 'as we are concerned -harnıless, I « Chair.

in committee. Now, is it in order to do this after | admit, unless made mischievous by our indorseMr. FICKLIN. Change the phraseology so the committee have received it?

ment. The coolness with which he announced in that it shall read that it be recommended to the The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Vir- his speech to the New York Bar, that if Russia Speaker to appoint a committee, &c.

ginia [Mr. BAYLY) appeals from the decision of should disregard the policy of non-intervention Mr. RICHARDSON. I want to make a single the Chair, deciding that the resolution was before which he recommended to our country, we must suggestion. I fully concur with the gentleman the committee.

fight or be disgraced, left nothing to be disclosed from Virginia (Mr. BAYLY) in the point of order

Mr. CLINGMAN. I wish to submit this to

as to his purpose or his policy. He has followed raised by him. In my opinion there is but one the consideration of the Chair, whether the 136th up that demonstration, until: in Baltimore, recogplan by which the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. rule referred to does not apply to motions made nizing a difference between the people and the Cartter) can attain his object. It is by recom- in the House by individual members to change Government, he calls for a pronunciamento as to mending to the House the passage of a resolution the rule, and not to reports of the Committee on the propriety of intervention should Russia interto authorize the raising of a committee. That is Rules, or of the Committee of the Whale? The fere hereafter in the affairs of Hungary:. Sir, I the only way in which it can be done.

one day's previous notice is necessary on the part am opposed to any act which commits this GofMr. STANTON, of Tennessee. I understand of an individual member, but not by a committee. ernment to intervention in the disputes which emthe object of this resolution is nothing more than Mr. BAYLY. I will not embarrass this reso- barrass and often convulse the Old World. Sepa recommendation to the Speaker of the House. | lution in the Committee of the Whole, and will arated by oceans and by distance, the problem is Every subject that comes before the House in the withdraw my appeal. I, however, give notice | left to us to work out, what can be done for huform of a bill, whieh is passed upon in Commit- that I shall make all these points over again in the man liberty by those who duly appreciate the ee of the Whole, is merely passed as a recomHouse.

principles on which it is founded? And he ce let mendation to the House to pase it. So with this Mr. CAMPBELL, of Ohio. Is it in order to me remind the committee, that there is a great resolution. Before it passes the House it must move an amendment?

tical evil in interference in the domestic afla árs of first pass the committee. It is nothing more than Mr. GIDDINGS. No. The question is upon other nations. He has read history with but little a recommendation to the House. rising and reporting.

profit, and observed his own times withou, imMr. HALL moved that the committee rise. The CHAIRMĂN. The resolution is before provement, who has not learned that all communi

Mr. CARTTER. Is that motion subject to the committee. The gentleman from Ohio pro- lies who deserved and who could tnke care of civil amendment?

poses to amend the resolution, and it is certainly | liberty were in possession of that blessing. It is The CHAIRMAN. I think not.

in order to offer any amendment the gentleman the natural result of a just appreciation of, and a (Cries of “ Tellers !Tellers !”] may think proper to submit.

determination to possess the full enjoyment of Tellers were ordered; and Messrs. Collom, and Mr. CAMPBELL, of Ohio. I move to strikeout equal rights. Whenever the experiment is tried King of New York, were appointed.

all after the word "resolved,"and to insert the reso- of making a people free before their time, it will The question having been taken, the tellers re- lution offered the other day by the gentleman from result in compelling the reception of liberty by ported-ayes 44, noes 85.

North Carolina, (Mr. Clingman,) embracing Gov- brute force—in the folly of sustaining the ma inority So the motion that the committee rise was neg- ernor Kossuth amongst that class of persons againt the majority-which will be abundantly atived.

entitled to the privilege of the floor under rule 17th. manifest when the assisting foreign force is withMr. CAMPBELL, of Ohio. Is an amendment | My desire is to have a resolution adopted similar drawn. It is a policy as unwise as that of furnishin order now?

to the one passed in favor of another very distin- || inga prodigal the means of wasteful expenditure. It The CHAIRMAN. The resolution is not yet | guished friend of humanity, who came to this city is an undertaking in advance of the call of the peobefore the committee.

about a year ago. I allude to Father Mathew. ple, and doomed always to disaster and defeat. Mr. CARTTER. I ask that the resolution be | A resolution was passed simply giving to that dis- Our own history teaches an important lesson. now reported.

tinguished man the privilege of this Hall. Three millions of people, scattered over a vast counThe CLERK then read the resolution, as follows: Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. That was done try, encountered and conquered the opposition of Resolved, That a committee of five be appointed by the by universal consent.

the most powerful nation on the globe. Speaker to wait upon Louis Kossuth, and introduce him Mr. CAMPBELL, of Ohio. I hope there will A MEMBER. What if France had not interfered to the House of Representatives.

be no objection in this committee to the passage for us, would we have secured our liberty? Mr. CARTTER. The resolution is now sub- of a resolution of that kind.

Mr. VENABLE. We were always free, and ject for the action of the committee. I move the The CHAIRMAN. The Chair decides the we fought, and fought successfully, against opcommittee rise and report the resolution to the resolution of the gentleman from Ohio, offered as pression in prospect-against the asserted right House, with the recommendation that it do pass. a substitute, is not in order, because it is upon a of taxation without representation. France inter

Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. I do not un- different subject, and proposes a change of the posed, but it was an act of war, so acknowledged 'derstand the resolution is yet before the com- standing rules of the House.

and so regarded; and long were the dreary years mittee.

Mr. MACE proposed the following amendment, before she exhausted the eup of bitterness tho The CHAIRMAN. The Chair considers the viz: to strike out all after the word “resolved,"and | dregs of which she was compelled to drink, and resolution now before the committee. insert:

which she had placed to her own lips. I do not Mr. STEPHENS. I object to the reception of That the Speaker wait on Governor Louis Kossuth, and believe that the havoc and the blood which mars the resolution, under the 136th rule, which pro- give him a cordial welcome, and introduce him to the and stains the history of France, from the comvides" that no standing rule or order of the House members of the House of Representatives.

mencement of the Revolution of 1790-'91, has shall be rescinded or changed without one day's The question being taken, the amendment was resulted in any permanent good to human liberty notice being given of the motion therefor; nor rejected

or social rights. I rejoice that I am one who, four shall any rule be suspended except by a vote of Mr. VENABLE proposed to strike out all after years ago, recorded my name amongst the forty• at least two thirds of the members present; nor the word “resolved," and to insert as follows: seven who refused to congratulate Europe and • shall the order of business, as established by the That the Speaker be authorized to invite Louis Kossuth mankind upon the sudden appearance of the mush"rules, be postponed or changed, except by a vote to a privileged seat within this House.

room-republic of France, which has been in so of at least two thirds of the members present. Mr. VENABLE said: Mr. Chairman, I ask summary a manner uprooted by the bayonets of The 17th rule defines what class of persons shall the indulgence of the committee whilst I submit | Louis Napoleon. They have all the liberty which be admitted upon the floor of the House. It is a a few remarks on the amendment which I have they can take care of—more would make them a downright breaking down of the rules of the offered. For the distinguished stranger, whose nuisance to themselves and the world. I believed House, if this resolution is entertained without || advent has produced such a sensation, I feel all the so four years ago, and ask no particular credit for one day's previous notice.

sympathy which is due to one who has struggled, sagacity in the conviction-time has demonstrated Cries of “ Question!” “ Question!”

although unsuccessfully, for that national organi- || its soundness. But, sir, I repeat, all nations who The CHAIRMAN, The Chair concurs in zation which suits his views of civil liberty. How- || desire and rightly appreciate civil liberty, acquire opinion, individually, with the gentleman from ever I might differ with him as to what constitutes and preserve it, and are invincible in that cause. Georgia; and but for the recent vote of the House that liberty, I feel satisfied that in the struggle in [Mr. VENABLE was here interrupted by calls of overruling the decision of the Chair, he would sus- which he has fallen he was sincerely contending for “Question! Question !” from a particular part of tain the question of order.

the constitution of Hungary. I regret, however, the House.) Mr. STEPHENS, of Georgia. This is another that I am compelled to remark, that this distin Mr. V. continued. Mr. Chairman, there are and entirely distinct point, and I call upon the guished stranger has not sustained the high estimate persons even in this Hall who, either from defectChair to decide it. I call also for the reading of which I had formed of him as a prudent statesman ive breeding or obtuseness of perception, place the rules.

and a reliable patriot. I mean not to question the themselves beyond the pale of that courtesy, which The CHAIRMAN. The Chairthinks the com- | sincerity, but the practical reliability of his patriot- | regulates the intercourse of gentl emen; and I can mittee suspended the rules, and are now acting || ism. Invited as a prisoner and an emigrant, he, assure those persons who interrupt me by calls of


32p CONGRESS, Ist Session.


NEW SERIES....No. 11.

"Question! Question !" whilst I am in possession already pending. An amendment to the amend social and domestic intervention which that genof the floor, that they only awake sensations in ment might be in order.

ileman and those who act with him would raise my bosom which it would be unparliamentary for Mr. MCMULLIN, I desire to offer the follow- about me when they are clamoring for the princime to designate in this House. ing amendment, viz:

ples of universal liberty-liberty for all races, all I would return, and remark, that we are not left And that said committee also introduce to this House colors, and all breeds, by saying, " that it is my to our own experience on this subject. I shall Colonel Scoli Harris, and such others, now in this city, as duty as a peaceful citizen, living within my own not go to the lore of Greek and Roman records. were engaged in the late Cuban expedition, and who were Look at Switzerland, surrounded by despotism, taken prisoners by the Spanish authorities and bave been

Government, to attend to my own business and since released.

concerns, and let other people attend to theirs." the object of hatred and the subject of assault:

(Laughter.] de stands like her own Alps, and, free as the

I am no Peter the Hermit. I have no chivalrous Finds which sport amongst her glaciers, unmoved

The CHAIRMAN. The amendment is not in I will not take my little canule and walk among the

mission to go forth and enlighten the whole earth. and unsubdued. Her own Mont Blanc is not

order. Lure fixed than the neutrality of Switzerland, be

Mr. McMULLIN. Do I understand the Chair mayazines on fire, and then rejoice at the general

powder-magazines of all mankind and set those cause she understands and appreciates liberty, and to decide that it is out of order?

and glorious explosion. I defend myself from that is invincible.

The CHAIRMAN. I do. I am unwilling to see our Government become Mr. McMULLIN. It is painful to my feelings semleman and his associates when they assail our

own State governments, and clamor for universal a knight-errant in the great cause of national

to take an appeal from the decision of the Chair. liberty, by the general declaration, that it is none Eberty and independence over the whole face of (Laughter.]

of my business what is done in other State govthe earth. For this diffusive benevolence I have The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman take

ernments than my own—that I am opposed to inbot much respect. Like other knights-errant, in an appeal?

tervention of all sorts. Attend to your own conthe zeal to redress wrongs, there is no estimate of Mr. McMULLIN. I believe I will not. (Laugh

cerns, mind your own business, take care of your wrongs perpetrated. If Hungary is to demand ter.]

own household affairs, is the primary duty of a our intervention, what shall we say to Poland, to

Mr. BROOKS. I intend to vote for the passage nation as well as of a family or individual. "This, Ireland, and to the revolutionists of Naples? Where l of the resolution of the gentleman from North I am sure, is the duty of a good citizen and a good vill our mission end? I think the first and most Carolina, (Mr. VENABLE;) but I intend also to give legislator. If we once lay down and establish the obvious remedy for such a zeal would be the pub- the reasons why I vote for that resolution, because principle that this Government has a right to interlication and diffusion of a cheap edition of the it often happens in this House that when votes are fere and intervene and take up arms against adventures of the Knight of La Mancha, familiarly || given, unless you seize the time of giving them, it slavery in Hungary, or any other portion of the Iznown as Don Quixote. Sir, I, as a statesman is impossible io accompany them with any expla- continent of Europe, there stand in my own State and representative of the people, can neither en- nation. We are about to inake a mark, a signifi- more than a million of human beings who cry, courage nor indorse the doctrines of Louis Kos- cant mark on the history of this Government; and “that there is no slavery on God's earth so horrisuch in this country. I protest against any inter- while that mark is making, I desire to give the ble as the chattel slavery of the Southern States, ference on the part of our Government, or its reasons why I aid in making it, and to accompany and that our first duty, before we arm ourselves functionaries, as such, in the affairs of Europe, I my vote with a translation. I do not intend that against European despois, is to seize the cannon, any further than they concern ourselves. I would

it shall be said, when I vote for this resolution, li the musket, the torch, and the firebrand, go across Teserve our remonstrances and our demonstrations that I mean to intervene or interfere in the affairs the Potomac, and set fire to the whole southern for our own wrongs and insults, which are not of all this earth, not even of all this continent, or country at once." I do not stop to discuss this wanting in the history of the present time; and I of any other continent. I intend merely to pay a question with such people theologically or economwould refrain from giving the sanction of a repre- political compliment to a political principle. While ically; but constitutionally, I say Southern slavery sentative of my district, to the opinions of one paying it I do not intend to pay it officially; I do is none of your business; you have no authority who demands intervention in the affairs of Europe, not intend to pay it in behalf of this Government, over, or right to interfere with it. If ever, then, and calls upon the people to make pronunciamien- / but as an individual, as a citizen, as a member of this principle of non-intervention in the affairs of toes in his favor. I trust that my amendment our common society; for that reason and for no

other people is broken down, it is in vain for me, pray prevail, that the Speaker may invite the distin- other. I cherish in my bosom a deep and warm and those who act with me, to attempt to resist the guished Hungarian to a privileged seat-such cour- sympathy for the political principles which not universal crusade which will sweep us, not towards fesy as Father Mathew and others have received only Kossuth, but O'Brien, Meagher, Avezzana, Europe, but across the Potomac into the whole and leave him to the impression which speeches and Garibaldi, and others on the Continent of Eu- Southern country. ay make upon the public mind. Let all contri- rope, have contended for. The tribute of my This Government was formed for peculiar and bate who choose, but I protest against any act

heart, the tribute of my warm desire for their suc- special purposes, and for none other. It was made which seems to complicate our Government with cess, the force of the example which this country a limited Government especially to make us attend the faint of others who have no claim for our can set by peace and quietude, and by a good ex- to our own concerns. Nowhere in our Constituprotection and no right to ask intervention. I am ample—all ihese I am willing to give; but I stand, tion can the power be found to intervene in the not afraid; but I know that the intermeddling in as a Northern man, upon one ground, upon one affairs of other nations, in Europe or on this Contiparate life becomes contemplible, and it is equally political principle, that is, non-interference with nent; and when such a thing in Genet's day was tre of nations. Let Kossuth be invited to a privi- otner people's affairs; and upon that breakwater attempted, both Washington and Jefferson put it leged seal, treated with due respect, welcomed with alone can I defend myself from the surges which down. We can only protect ourselves and our cerdiality, and made free to come and free to go. rise up around me, and which seek to deluge por- institutions by that humble primary maxim of

Mr. CARTTER. I rise simply to say, that I tions of this country, as well as other governments | minding our own affairs. did not desire myself to address the committee;

If once this Washington principle of I know, sir, that this is no popular speech of and I trust we will not enter upon a general dis- non-intervention or non-interference with other mine. It will bring me no cheers and secure me cession of matters collateral to this resolution. I Governments can be broken down, I see no land no votes if I desired them, and make me no friends 210 wed the purpose, when I offered the resolution, ahead, nay, nothing but a dark and stormy sea where this excitability exists, and especially in that I introduced it simply as a peaceful act of before me. If interference with other States or the combustible city which I in part represent. It courtesy, already made necessary by the previous other people is ever to become the rule, or a lead- may be the popular excitement will for a moment action of this House and nation, and not for the ing principle in this Government, has it never oc- sweep a man away. The hearts of my people are purpose of bringing upon this floor any of the ele- curred to gentlemen that it will not stop in Europe, warm, and for a time their passions may run ments of discussion outside of this House. Al- but begin on this continent, and perhaps first in away with their heads; but when their judgments though I would be glad, when the time arrives, to this country, in intermeddling with, and revolu- cool, and reason seizes the rudder again, the man open the broad field of discussion that lies behind, tionizing the peculiar organization and institutions who has done right, and fearlessly right, on all and yet, as foreign to this act of courtesy, I shall not of a portion of our own complex society? I am every occasion, will in the end receive the popular do it at this time, and I hope that the committee quite sure the thought has occurred at least to one support and the popular applause. I may be overwill not do it. If we are to be involved in a dis- i gentleman I see before me—the shrewd, keen- thrown. I may be a victim to the resistance cussion of the general topic, and that is settled, eyed gentleman from Ohio, whose zeal and whose which I make to the wild passions which are hurwhy I am ready to enter upon it, and the friends energy to-day, though a member of the peace so- rying on this country towards intervention in the of the resolution are also ready. 'I hope the ques- ciety, in the general cause of war, can only be affairs of the whole earth-toward universal war. tion may be taken, and the prevailing sense of the accounted for by his determination to break down I submit to the sacrifice. I care not what beHouse realized. if it is adopted, I hope the act

the barrier of non-intervention and non-interfer- comes of myself. I did not intend to vote for the of passing it may be simply regarded as an act of

ence that stands between him and the society and resolution; I should not have uttered a word. courtesy on the part of this body, made necessary governments of large portions of this country. || But this translation must go forth with my vote; by the position in which it stands. That is all 1 | While preaching peace, bringing peace propositions and when Kossuth reads—if he condescends to intended. I hope, with this view, that the amend- || within this Hall, denouncing all of us who will read-my humble vote upon this resolution, he

may be voled down, and the original reso- not vote against armies, and clamoring against all will see in the translation to that vote, that howlution passed, or defeated, without entering into of us who are ever for war, even for just war-I ever we may open our hearts to him; however we any further discussion.

see him anxious to-day, with others of his class, may cherish his principles, all we mean is symMr. McMULLIN. Is it in order to offer an to sally forth upon the general principle of inter- pathy, welcome, encouragement to him and his in amendment to the resolution:

vention and war-bella, horrida bella, with univer- their efforts to imitate our own bright and glorious The CHAIRMAN. There is an amendment ! sal creation. I protect myself from the surges of ll example.

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