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asked and that the matter be re-committed to the committee where complaints and objections to those who are objectionable can be placed without doing them more harm than perhaps they ought to receive.

MR. MOSES: I think this is a grave piece of injustice to attempt to reverse the solemn vote of this assembly in reference to members. It is a reflection on the committee that reported them, and that committee itself has not asked leave of this Association to take back its report. Suppose it is proved that a mistake has been made-I have no idea as to whom this is aimed at, nor do I care, but suppose some gentleman has been received improperly-is it not a piece of great injustice now to single him out after this convention has endorsed him?

MR. BRADWELL: Mr. Chairman, I ask if any respectable legislative body, Bar Association or anything else, ever undertook to start such an infernal outrage as this? Here are men this morning who were elected as members of this Association, not only passed through the regular committee, but were voted members of this Association and are here acting with us and have been ever since. Here sits a gentleman next to me by the name of Walker, who I believe, by his looks is a respectable lawyer; he is one of these gentlemen who has been acting all day, and I can turn around and point out quite a number. It is perpetrating an outrage in the name of this Association that ought not to be tolerated for a moment. I never heard the like of it; after the committee on admissions report in favor of a number of candidates, to take their money, invite them to come in and sit and participate as they have, in the deliberations of the body, and then have some person get up in the dark and stab them, without coming forward openly; and to do it after it has gone out through the press and in the papers this afternoon that they are members of the Bar Association. I say if such a thing as that is perpetrated it will injure the Association more than any one thing has done in the last ten years. I hope that this resolution, in the name of justice, and in the name of right, may be voted down. It is certainly not only improper, but I have no question of its being out of order. We have elected them and they have acted, and they are here.

MR. RICHBERG: I desire simply to make a point of order; as this matter appears to me, we are not proceeding in a proper

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way to reach this question. The committee on admissions passed upon these various gentlemen, recommended them to the Association, and the Association duly elected them; these men that were elected took their seats and are qualified members of this Association, and have acted here and have voted: that being the case, no vote to reconsider can debar them from the privileges of membership in this Association. The constitution and by-laws of this Association provide a method of reaching any member of this Association who is not a desirable member and who should not be a member of this Association. If among these gentlemen, through inadvertence, some man has been recommended, or men, who are not qualified members or desirable members, those gentlemen who have grievances against them should lodge the complaint in the proper way before the proper committee and take a vote upon it of this Association, and that can be done as this session. I therefore, Mr. Chairman, respectfully suggest that this whole discussion and motion is out of order, and the proper way is to lodge complaint against any member who is not a proper member of this Association. It can not be reached by a vote of reconsideration. I ask the ruling of the Chair upon the question.

PRESIDENT HAMLINE: The Chair has already ruled upon Judge Bradwell's point, so the Chair can hardly be expected to reverse himself within three or four minutes.

MR. BRADWELL: The Supreme Court does that.

PRESIDENT HAMLINE: If you are of the opinion that the Chair is wrong you can take an appeal, but the question is fairly before the house now as to whether or not you shall adopt Mr. Heckman's motion.

MR. HECKMAN: I rise to a question of personal privilege. Something has been suggested about some personal grievance: I have not and can not have any sort of personal feeling as to any member.

MR. RICHBERG:

I beg the gentleman's pardon, I did not think of him, I hardy know the gentleman. I said any one who had a grievance should take it before the proper committee.

MR. HECKMAN: I made the suggestion that a completed report might be desirable, and in order to enable the committee

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to make that kind of a report which shall be satisfactory to them, I made this motion.

A MEMBER: Mr. Chairman, I will ask if the Chairman of that committee, Mr. Orendorff, desires it?

MR. ORENDORFF: Mr. Chairman, I haven't requested any thing of that character. I will state that the committee in this matter as in all others, made a formal report We make the report upon the recommendation of the members of the bar. Every name which has been proposed and passed upon in that informal way has been recommended by some one that we considered a reputable member of this Association, and regarding that as prima facie evidence of the desirability of having the parties members without further investigation, the committee made their report. We have no wishes in the mat

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MR. HAMILTON: I only desire to suggest that if the action is taken by this Association to reconsider the report that was made this morning, it certainly is true that reflections are cast upon every man that was admitted this morning as a member of this Association. I think it was properly summed up by one of the gentlemen a few moments ago when he said that this is a matter which should be referred to the proper committee. This Association has a committee on grievances, I believe, where this matter should properly go, and if there are individuals who were admitted this morning who should not be come members of this Association, the charge should be made against those individuals and not against all of the men who were admitted this morning. I really think it is true that the report of the committee on admissions is largely an informal report, that it is made nearly invariably upon the recommendation of members of this Association, but having made that report, the report having been approved by this Association and the men recommended to membership having become members, it certainly is not fair or right or proper to make a motion of this kind here, and I certainly hope it will not prevail: I don't care who was admitted this morning-I wasn't here-I will say, at that meeting. I don't care how objectionable any man may be to all of the members of this Association, that is, among the men who were admitted this morning, but this is certainly not the right or proper way to get at that man or

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men. I have no intimation at whom this motion may have been aimed. If there are men desiring to become members of this Association, it certainly is right and proper for this Association to receive a further or supplemental report from that committee, but if this is intended to withdraw the right of membership from any individual, or from any set of men who were admitted this morning, it certainly should not prevail here.

MR. ZEISLER: Just one word to correct some mistakes, I believe, that have been made by the gentlemen discussing the negative of the proposition to reconsider. In the first place. by the adoption of the report of the committee on admissions the men recommended do not become members; they must first qualify by paying the initiation fee.

MR. BRADWELL: Every man this morning, except one, has paid his fee.

MR. ZEISLER: Those who have paid their initiation fee are properly members, in regard to whom the action of this body could not be reversed, but as regards those who have not paid their fee, I say they are not members. So far as the point is concerned that there is a Committee on Grievances before whom complaints could be lodged and objections made, I say that anything in their past lives or records could not be brought up as a reason of depriving them now of their membership. Only such things as have happened since they be came members could be brought up, and not things they had done before the action of this body this morning.

MR. HAMILL: It seems to me that the position taken, that this matter can not be reconsidered, is untenable. This body controls its own records until it adjourns. So it is with reference to any proceedings of this character, until the body arrives at a point where reconsideration is not proper; but in this case that time has not arrived. I say this with a spirit of fairness. I know none of these gentlemen. I have no possible means of knowing them, whether they are proper or not, or whether there is any reason for this action, but it is true that this body should be careful in its action, and deliberate, and that nothing should be taken as settled because it has been done formally.

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MR. BRADWELL: Mr. Zeisler stated very fairly that any one who has paid his initiation fee is a member of the Association, and could not be turned down by reconsideration. What the gentleman who spoke last says refers simply to the formal resolutions of a body, but does not refer to the election of officers or members of the Association after the vote has been declared.

MR. WOLSELEY:

I do not know whom this resolution is aimed at, but I have some friends among these gentlemen who have been elected here, and I am going to vote for a reconsideration of the vote, because I consider that by the simple making of this motion a slur has been cast upon every single one of those gentlemen that were voted in this morning; and I know there are friends of mine against whom nothing can be said, and I do not wish to see them going in with any slur on them.

MR. GREGORY: As I understand the facts in this case, there was but one member of the Committee on Admissions present at this session, and I am advised-if I am incorrect in that regard I will be glad to be corrected by Gen. Orendorff-that but one member of the committee considered these applications. Now that in itself is probably an irregularity which would want the action of this body. I agree with Mr. Hamill. It seems to be a plain proposition that this body, like any other parliamentary body, and in accordance with the ruling of the chair, controls its own proceedings, at least through one session. Now, I hardly think that some of the gentlemen who have spoken upon this subject are altogether ignorant of the reasons that suggested this motion. For myself, there was one, and possibly two names read here this morning of men that I do not think ought to be elected members of this Association; I did not like, however, and do not like now, upon the floor here, to specify those names, though if it became necessary to do so I should not hesitate. I think that membership in this Association ought to mean something, and I think that under such circumstances, when, as I understand, according to the conviction of a majority of the members in attendance from this city, members of the bar from this city who are unworthy of membership here have been elected, to move a reconsideration is far less reprehensible than it is for members of this Association, knowing the character of