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HUGH PETERS.-The question I raised

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JOHN ADAMS: EPITAPH AND A COR- In the old burial ground at the 'Hugo Peters or "Peeters" who Putney is the following inscription on a headgraduated from Trinity, Cambridge, was stone:the same person as the regicide, can now be set at rest.

Dr. Venn, President of Gonville and Caius College, has been so kind as to inform me that he has discovered that the ordination records of nearly all the English bishops are in existence (a fact which will be news to research workers), and by his courtesy I am able to give the following details from the transcripts in Dr. Venn's possession.

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In the ordination records of the Bishop of London, Peters is described as a schoolmaster of Laindon, Essex, at his ordination as deacon on 23 Dec., 1621, and also as B.A., late of Trinity College, Cambridge, born at 'Foye," Cornwall. He was dained priest on 18 June, 1623. The regicide, therefore, must have been the Peters" who graduated B.A. in 1618 and M.A. in 1622. The new details-that Peters was schoolmaster at Laindon, &c.well illustrate the value of the ordination

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Dr. Venn has also been so kind as to tell me that in the forthcoming Book of Matriculations and Degrees,' &c., at Cambridge, compiled by himself and Mr. J. A. Venn of Trinity, Peters appears as having matriculated from Trinity, as a sizar, in This also is new. November, 1613.

J. B. WILLIAMS.

ON NOTE-TAKING.-I have recently had occasion to go over the material collected by a Scots minister in reference to his parish. It is all written in note-books and on both sides of the paper, and to be of any use would have to be retranscribed and arranged. Similar laborious collections have fallen into my hands from time to time, and as I notice amateur workers at the Public Record Office, I fancy the practical method of note-making is not so obvious as one would expect. The real way, of course, is to use separate slips of paper, cut to a standard size. This enables one to arrange and rearrange the material in any way desired. The bound note-book is a wasteful fallacy.

J. M. BULLOCH.

TARRED ROADS IN 1886.-These are mentioned in a little pamphlet written by Mr. W. H. Wheeler (and published by the Roads Improvement Society in 1886), according to whom tar was used for making roads by some road surveyors " in those days.

L. L. K.

Here lies interred the Body of
The Revd. John Adams, A.M.

many years Master of a respectable Academy in Putney and Author of several Sermons and many Classical and Historical Publications useful to the rising Generation.

He died the 16th of November, 1813. Aged 64 years.

Footstone :

J. A. 1813.

In the 'D.N.B.' it is stated that "he died at Putney in 1814." The above gives LIBRARIAN, the correct date. Wandsworth.

RIOT AT COVENT GARDEN THEATRE, 1773. -Following on MR. ALECK ABRAHAMS'S entertaining account of the tailors' riot at the Haymarket Theatre in 1805 (11 S. vii. 464), the following quotation from The Lady's Magazine; or, Entertaining Companion for the Fair Sex, for May, 1775, relating a similar outburst against the famous actor Macklin, which took place in Covent Garden Theatre thirty-two years earlier, may prove

of some interest:

Yesterday morning [April 11th, 1775] Mr. Justice Aston reported to the Court of King's Bench his minutes of the evidence on the trial of Messrs. Leigh, Miles, James, Aldus and Clarke on the 24th of February last, the first four of whom were convicted of a conspiracy and riot, and the latter of a riot only, in Covent Garden Theatre, on the 18th of November, 1773, with intent to drive Mr. Macklin from the stage. Lord Mansfield observed on the nature of the offence, called it a national disgrace, and in very severe terms reprobated the conduct of the parties concerned He said in the first stage of the business in it. he had urgently advised the defendants to make Mr. Macklin an adequate compensation for the great damage he had sustained; that he then particularly pointed out as an adviseable measure the saving of the costs, by putting an end to the matter at once; that the law expences were now sum, which sum the swelled to an defendants themselves had given rise to, by their obstinacy and want of prudence. — Some time was spent in the court's endeavouring to make an amicable adjustment of the matter, and a final conclusion of it. proposed as arbiter general, which the defendants unanimously agreed to, but Mr. Colman declined the office; at length Mr. Macklin, after recapitulating his grievances, informed the court, that to shew he was no way revengeful, with which he had been charged, he would be satisfied for the defendants to pay his law expences, to take one hundred pounds worth of tickets on the night of his daughter's benefit, a second hundred pounds worth on the night of his own benefit, and a third on one of the manager's nights, when he should play; this plan, he observed, was not formed on

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mercenary views; its basis was to give the
defendants popularity, and restore mutual amity.
Lord Mansfield paid Mr. Macklin very high
compliments on the honourable complexion and
singular moderation of this proposal; his lordship
declared, it did him the highest credit; that
generosity was universally admired in this country,
and there was no manner of doubt but the public
at large would honour and applaud him for his
lenity; his lordship added further, that not-
withstanding his acknowledged abilities as
actor, he never acted better in his life than he had
that day. The proposal was accepted by the
parties, and the matter was thus ended.-During
the course of the business lord Mansfield took
occasion to observe, that the right of hissing and
applauding in a theatre was an unalterable right,
but that there was a wide distinction between
expressing the natural sensations of the mind as
they arose on what was seen and heard, and
executing a preconcerted design, not only to hiss
an actor when he was playing a part in which
he was universally allowed to be excellent, but
also to drive him from the theatre, and promote
his utter ruin."

T. H. BARROW.

SIR JOHN MOORE'S BROTHER, SURGEON JAMES MOORE: HIS BURIAL - PLACE EQUALLY STRANGE. - Sir John Moore was the eldest of three brothers, their father being Dr. John Moore, who died in 1802. The second son, James (or, as he called himself, James Carrick), was born in 1763, and died in 1834, and it is an interesting fact, little known, that, like his eldest brother's, his place of burial is unique, In the while it is equally honourable.

have been in good preservation. The Uvedale family appears to have owned the portrait "from time immemorial," and it would be of great interest to learn whether the family still possesses it, and also whether it is the original of the engraving by Houston, published in Rolt's 'Lives of the Principal Reformers (1759).

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Another portrait of Hooper was pub. A Short Narrative of Facts, lished in relative to the Five Protestant Bishops of the Church of England,' issued in 1839 by C. Richards, 100, St. Martin's Lane, London. This was engraved by H. B. Hall from a 'From the original drawing by J. Childe Portraits." The Bishop is here represented in full episcopal dress, and the drawing gives the impression of being copied from Houston, with the addition of various details, 66 Portraits would suggest though the word that more than one had been studied, and possibly the Uvedale portrait was among them. ROLAND AUSTIN.

Public Library, Gloucester.

Queries.

WE must request correspondents desiring information on family matters of only private interest to affix their names and addresses to their queries, in order that answers may be sent to them direct.

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island of Ischia, in the Bay of Naples-a THE IDENTITY OF EMELINE DE wholly volcanic island-are many craters, and at the bottom of one is a white marble tombstone, recording the burial there, in that strange position, of Surgeon James Moore. The island had been visited with the scourge of cholera, and most of the inhabitants fled to the mainland, but Dr. Moore remained to attend the sick. He, too, eventually fell a victim to the dread plague, and was buried in the place of honour at the bottom of an extinct crater, while the other victims of the epidemic were interred in ascending circles round the sides. J. HARRIS STONE.

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I AM desirous of obtaining the assistance of
your genealogical readers to enable me to
identify this lady, who is described as
daughter and heir of Walter de Rideles-
ford (vide De Laci, Burke's Extinct
Peerage,' ed. 1840,
and
p. 300),
and heir of Walter de Ridelsford, Baron of
'Emmeline, Countess of Ulster, daughter
Bray" (vide D'Evereux, B.E.P.,' p. 175).
to Walter de Reddesford is the following :-
The only reference I have been able to find

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"About 1170 Bray was bestowed by Richard de Clare, or Strongbow, Earl of Pembroke and Strigul, on Walter de Reddesford, who took the title of Baron of Bray, and built a castle."Vide Bray, Encyclopædia Britannica,' 11th ed., 1910, vol. iv. p. 438.

His so-called daughter and heir married, first (B.E.P., p. 300), Hugh de Laci, who was created Earl of Ulster, and died 1242; and, secondly (B.E.P.,' p. 175), Stephen de Longespee, Chief Justice of Ireland. Both these marriages are also recorded in Banks's Dormant and Extinct Baronage' (vol. i. p. 105).

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In 'D.N.B.' (vol. xxxi. p. 377) it is stated that Hugh de Laci married "Emeline (sometimes called Lesceline), daughter of Walter de Redelesford," and it adds: "She was alive in Nov., 1267, but dead before 1278 (Sweetman, ii. 834; Calendarium Genealogicum,' i. 256).

From the Calendar of Documents relating to Ireland,' however, we learn that this Hugh de Laci married Lesceline de Verdon (so named, as was the custom in those days, after her grandmother, Lesceline, wife of Norman de Verdon, and daughter of Geoffrey de Clinton, Chamberlain and Treasurer to Henry I.).

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Lesceline de Verdon was the only daughter of Bertram de Verdon by his second wife, Rohese, a lady of Saxon origin "" (Banks's Dormant and Extinct Baronage,' vol. i. p. 191; B.E.P.,' p. 534).

The statement that Hugh de Laci married Lesceline de Verdon is also to be found in The Abbey of St. Mary, Croxden, Staffordshire,' by Charles Lynam, F.S.A., under Sketches of the Earlier Verduns,'' and, I understand, in the latest edition of Burke's Extinct Peerage.'

The references in the 'Calendar of Documents' above mentioned are as follows:

"1224. Hugh I. being dead in 1186, Hugh II. broke out in rebellion, and Nicholas de Verdon [who was brother to Lesceline de Verdon] requested compensation from the King because his lands are wasted by Hugh de Lacy's rebellions."

-No. 1210.

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May 12, 1226. The King commits to Walter de Lacy....The King further commits to Walter all the lands which Hugh held of Walter's fee, with the castles of Rathour' and Le Nober which he had with Lesceline his wife of the fee of Nicholas de Verdon...."-No. 1374.

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....all the lands of Hugh de Lacy his brother [Walter's] which he had in marriage with Lesceline," &c.-No. 1372.

This last reference, which is a lengthy one, goes on to say that Hugh had two sons-Walter and Roger-who were alive in 1226 (Sweetman, i. 1372); but as from other sources ('D.N.B.,' vol. xxxi. p. 377) we learn that "the Earldom of Ulster of this creation came to an end at Hugh's death, for he left no male heir,' we may naturally assume that his male issue, at all events, was not by his wife Lesceline. The Dunstable Annals' allege that "in 1225 Hugh had abandoned his wife, and was living with an adulteress " (‘Ann. Mon.,' iii. 91).

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As Lesceline was born in or before 1192I have never heard she was a posthumous child-it would seem, from the fact that she had one child by her second husband

(Stephen de Longespee), that she must have obtained a divorce from her first husband, Hugh de Laci (‘B.E.P.,' p. 175, does not describe her as Hugh's widow), shortly after his desertion of her, circa 1225; for had she waited to remarry until his death in 1242 the birth of such a child would have been improbable. I have entirely failed to discover the date of her marriage to Stephen de Longespee, or the dates of his birth and decease.

I find no record that Hugh de Laci ever married a second time-he could not have done so unless he had been divorced by his first wife, because she survived him; and if he did not, it seems clear (as the records in the Irish State Papers are, without doubt, more reliable evidence than the works of modern peerage compilers) that Hugh de Laci's wife was Lesceline de Verdon.

How, then, came Lesceline to be described as Emeline, daughter and heir of Walter de Reddesford ?

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It is quite possible that the original writers of the De Laci and D'Evereux pedigrees may, in reading the old difficult writing from which they copied, have partly deLesceline as Emeline, and that, instead of ciphered, and partly guessed, the name of verifying the statement, one after another merely copied what others had authority written, and so perpetuated the error. Bertram de Verdon died in 1192. In 1198 Rohese his widow, whom he had married circa 1140 possibly in her teens-and who died 1215, gave 201. to the King for liberty to marry again (Nichols's History of the County of Leicester,' vol. iii. part ii. p. 637), and the question in my mind is, Did she marry, secondly, Walter de Reddesford, Baron of Bray ?

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If so, it may be assumed that Lesceline, her only and, in 1198, very possibly unmarried daughter, went to reside with her mother and stepfather, and the peerage writers, having already decided for themselves, as I have shown above they may have done, that Lesceline's name was Emeline, jumped to the conclusion from her so residing that she was the daughter, instead of the stepdaughter, of Walter de Reddesford, who most likely, having no issue by his wife Rohese, made his stepdaughter his heir.

investigations have gone, I have found This theory is one which, so far as my myself unable to prove or disprove, and is one which can only be made a certainty by knowing whom Walter de Reddesford married, and when, and whether or no he had any issue by his wife.

If this Walter's wife was not Rohese de Verdon, we have the conclusion forced upon us that Lesceline de Verdon must have been a first wife of Hugh de Laci, unrecorded by the peerage compilers, and that she died without issue; further, that his second wife, and the only wife of Stephen de Longespee, was, as stated in 'B.E.P.' and Banks's 'Dormant and Extinct Baronage,' Emeline, daughter of Walter de Ridelsford, alias de Reddesford, Baron of Bray.

I shall be most grateful for any information which will assist me to solve this genealogical puzzle.

FRANCIS H. RELTON. 9, Broughton Road, Thornton Heath.

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TRADESMAN. "It is generally known that this word has two meanings, depending upon two distinctly developed senses of trade," which find favour in different

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or mason, or plumber, or thatcher"; and
a country clergyman still nearer the town,
who had some building going on, was told
that a mason, stone-setter, or bricklayer is
a tradesman, and the man who serves him
a labourer.” We may also remember that
a trade union or trade's union is primarily
a union of skilled artisans, not of shop-
keepers. And, by the way, too much stress
must not be laid upon the inscription
Tradesmen's entrance on doors and
gates; for this admits plumbers, gasfitters,
plasterers, and
well as
grocers' boys or dairymen, and may belong
an original comprehensive sense of
tradesman."

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tell me anything of the family of William 1. MORRIS.-Can any reader of 'N. & Q.' Morris, a master in the Royal Navy, born 1749 at Bermondsey, who married Anne the parents of Admiral George Morris, who died in 1857? Any notes on the naval career of the latter would be welcome.

Hart

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2. PAWLETT SMITH.-Is anything known of the family of the Rev. Smith, who married Annabella, daughter of Wm. Paw. lett, M.P. for Lymington in 1729, and Winchester in 1741 ? X, Y, Z.

localities. In London, and perhaps in the south-east of England generally, tradesman usually means 'shopkeeper," the explanation given in Dr. Johnson's 'Dictionary,' and certainly known to Shakspere, whether or not he learnt it in Stratford-on-Avon. But in other districts 'tradesman means a man who has a regular trade, a handicraftsman or artisan. This is often put down in dictionaries as Scotch "; but it is the ordinary sense, not merely in Scotland and Northern England, but also, according to the English Dialect Dictionary,' over a great part of the Midlands, in Cheshire, Notts, Warwick- FINGER BOARD.-In the churchwardens' shire, Oxfordshire, as well as in the south-accounts of Eccleston, in Leyland Hunwest from Hampshire to West Somerset, dred, Lancashire, for the year 1723, occur and in the Isle of Wight. Outside England, the following items :— this is recorded also as the usage in Australia and the West Indies, and (I am told) in Canada, and in Greater Britain generally. This seems to leave rather a limited area for the London or shopkeeper sense.

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In order to have the limits of this more exactly defined than is done in the 'Dialect Dictionary, may I ask every reader o 'N. & Q. to send me a post-card (addressed Sir James Murray, Oxford) stating in what sense or senses tradesman " is used in towns, villages, or districts known to them? I suspect that the London sense will be found to prevail in towns, even in districts where the more widely diffused sense is retained in the country. This I know to be the case in Oxford, as distinct from rural Oxfordshire. A servant from a parish not ten miles from Oxford, when asked what a tradesman is, at once replied, "A carpenter,

Paid to Jas. Balshaw for......making a new finger

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Paid to Hugh Worsley for making a finger board
and pannel, and helping to fix him up 3s. 2d.
Spent at that time upon the workmen and some
others that helped him up with the finger
board
18. 1d.
Paid to Geo. Wright for painting and gilding the
finger board within and without, and for gold
and writing
11. 2s. 6d.
What is the meaning of the term "finger
board" ? The cost of that made by
Balshaw is not separately given, it being
lumped with several other items. Hugh
Worsley, who made a finger board in 1723.
had mended the finger of the clock
in 1717, and he “ mended the clock again
in 1719. Balshaw's finger board is
specially referred to as "within the
church," and Geo. Wright painted and

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gilded the finger board "within and without." At Eccleston there is a clock dial on the west side of the tower outside, and another on the east side of the tower inside, facing the nave. I am therefore of opinion that the term finger board" is here meant Am I right? to apply to the clock dial. Other interpretations have been suggested to me, but on the whole I incline to clock dial. Is the term finger board" known to have been used in this way in other places? It is written as two words. N.E.D.' gives two meanings to the word "the flat or slightly fingerboard": (a) rounded piece of wood attached to the neck of instruments of the violin and guitar class"; and (b) a key-board, manual.”

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AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED.-Can any reader kindly give me the author of the following ?

"Let not thy table exceed the fourth part of See thy provisions be solid and thy income. not far-fetched, fuller of substance than art. Be wisely frugal in thy preparation, and freely Too much is cheerful in thy entertainment. vanity, enough a feast."

M. A. B.

Can any reader give me the authors of The the following quotations ?

F. H. C.

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Time was made for slaves,

Pungent radish biting infant's tooth.
LYDIA S. M. ROBINSON.

Paoli, Pennsylvania.

BARNARD FAMILY.

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[The saying referring to time appeared originally See 6 S. ix. 78; TWO ANONYMOUS WORKS: EIGHTEENTH in Buckstone's 'Billy Taylor.' 9 S. vii. 109.] CENTURY.—I shall be much obliged if any reader of N. & Q.' can throw some light upon the authorship of the following anonymous pamphlets. In a current bookseller's obliged for the replies to my queries in catalogue in my possession they are given 11 S. vii. 308 on the above subject. as Daniel Defoe's. Neither of these works, however, appears in Lee's Bibliography of Defoe,' 1869, nor in Wright's revised version of Lee's list, 1894. Strange to say, there is no mention of them in Halkett and Laing's Dictionary of the Anony- same county, and Nicholas had a brother of John. Abel Barnard of Pirton matricumous and Pseudonymous Literature Great Britain,' Edinburgh, 1882. Chad-lated at Christ Church, Oxford, 24 Novemwick in his Life of Defoe,' 1859, thinks ber, 1581, aged 14. the first-named tract was by Harley:

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"The Secret History of Arlus and Odolphus, Ministers of State to the Empress of Grandinsula. In which are discover'd the Labour'd Artifices formerly us'd for the Removal of Arlus, and the true Causes of his late Restoration, upon the Dismission of Odolphus and the Quinquinvirate. Humbly Offer'd to those Good People of Grandinsula, who have not yet done wond'ring, why that Princess wou'd Change so Notable a Ministry. Printed in the Year 1710." First edition, 8vo, 38 pp.,

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The Way to Bring the World to rights; or, Honesty the Best Policy. At all times and in all Places. London: Printed for John Morphew, near Stationers-Hall, 1711." First edition, Svo, 48 pp.,

sewn.

FRANK CURRY.

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SAND-PICTURES.-Can any one tell me anything about sand-pictures-how they are made, when they were in vogue, or A friend owns three their present value? such pictures, the largest about 24 in. by This 30 in., being a sylvan hunting-piece. spirited composition is signed "B. Zoble, I find nothing in the dictionaries 1797." about a Zoble, but there was an English engraver named Zobel, whose work falls within the earlier years of the nineteenth century, and who may have been related to the maker of the picture. This, at a first glance, appears to be painted in oils, but a close inspection shows the surface to

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