Montagu Burrows in his Worthies of Charles Roberts, son of Edward Roberts, All Souls,' p. 194, speaks of the name of Esq., deputy and first clerk of the Pells "the Colonel-Proctor Hieron. Sanchy' office of the Exchequer, and of Ealing, standing first on "the list of the forty-three Middlesex, died 1 Jan., 1810, at his father's Fellows intruded by command of the Parlia- house at Ealing. The son had contributed ment without election." to The Gentleman's Magazine on numismatic subjects (Gentleman's Magazine, 1810, part i. pp. 93, 179). In a letter of Cromwell to Speaker Lenthall, dated Cork, 19 Dec., 1649, Col. Zanchy is mentioned as commander of a regiment of horse; and in writing to Bradshaw from Cashel, 5 March, 1649 (1650), Cromwell says: "We have taken......the Castle of Dundrum, at which we lost about six men,-Colonel Zanchy, who commanded the party, being shot through the hand." Gardiner in his History of the Commonwealth and Protectorate,' vol. iii. p. 72, quotes from Thurloe's Notes on Wildman's Plot, in which Col. Sankey is mentioned. John Aubrey in his Brief Lives' (Oxf., 1898, vol. ii. p. 148) writes in his account of Sir William Petty : 66 : Presumably Edward Roberts was a man of means, as the collection of coins made by his son, who died under age, was sold to the Trustees of the British Museum for 4,000 guineas (ibid, part ii. pp. 440, 544). as In The Gentleman's Magazine, 1814, part ii. pp. 461-6, is a review of Letters and Miscellaneous Papers of Barre Charles Roberts, Student of Christ Church. The said Barrè Charles, third child and second son of Edward Roberts, was born 13 March, 1789, in a house in St. Stephen's Court, Westminster, which his father inhabited Deputy Clerk of the Pells in the Exchequer. Barrè Charles was entered at Christ Church as a Commoner, 11 Oct., 1805. He became a student (presumably junior student) at the following Christmas by the presentation of Dr. Hay, obtained at the request of Viscount Sidmouth. His home was then at Ealing. He was buried in the church there (ie., St. Mary's). There were present at the funeral his brother William Henry Roberts; A Thomas Zanchy was granted the office his brother-in-law Mr. Welch; his cousins of Registrar of seizures and forfeits of Grosvenor Charles Bedford and Henry Goods uncustomed or prohibited." See Bedford; and the Rev. William Goodenough, 'Calendar of State Papers (Domestic), his early preceptor at Ealing, who wrote 1660-61,' pp. 315, 368, 387. Pepys the Latin inscription for the tablet in the mentions several times Clement Zanchy, church. Perhaps the W. H. Roberts, Clerk a Fellow of Magdalene College, Cambridge. Mynors Bright notes: Quære nomen of the knight his antagonist, Sir......? Resp. 'Twas Sir Hierome Sanchy that was his antagonist: against whom he wrote the Svo booke, about 1662. He was one of Oliver's knights, a commander and preacher and no conjuror. He challenged Sir William to fight with him. Sir William, being the challengee, named the place, a darke cellar, the weapon, carpenter's great axe; so by this expedient Sir William (who is short-sighted) would be at an equal tourney with this douty knight." Assistant of the Pells, or possibly the senior W. H. Roberts (ante, p. 208), was the elder brother of Barre Charles. The father, Edward Roberts, is not mentioned as being present. One may gather from the mention of Barrè Charles's early preceptor at Ealing," under whose care he was placed in 1799, and the date (1810) of the boy's death, that Edward Roberts had a house at Ealing at least from 1799 to 1810. Does this fit the date of "our friend Roberts of the Exchequer"? Perhaps the Roberts family spread in Ealing as it did in the Pells Office. Barrè contributed to The Quarterly Review. The marble tablet still exists in the church. Under the inscription is a coat of arms with a crescent, mark of cadency for the second son. There is, I think, no other Roberts monument in the church; there may be others in the churchyard. ROBERT PIERPOINT. HERALDIC: BÉRARDIER ARMS (11 S. xi. 280, 366). Quarterly arms nearly similar to those mentioned in the query are described in the 'Armorial Général de 1696' (dressé par Charles d'Hozier en vertu de l'édit royal de 1696, Bibliothèque Nationale, manuscrit du fonds français) :: "François Bérardier, prestre, curé de St. Louis de Maizierres au bailliage de Chalon, porte écartelé au 1e et 4° d'argent à une bande d'azur chargée d'un croissant d'argent accosté de deux étoiles d'or; au 2o et 3° d'azur a une épée d'argent en pal, la pointe en haut et la poignée d'or, et au 3 aussi d'azur à une arbaleste d'or."- Registre de Bourgogne,' vol. ii. p. 343, Bureau de Dijon. Perhaps the inquirer will be interested also in the other Bérardier coat : "Charles Bérardier, prêtre, curé de la Madelaine de Beaune, porte d'azur à une arbaleste d'argent senestrée d'une épée de mesme posée en pal, la pointe en haut et une croisette crénelée d'or posée en pointe."— Registre' (as above), p. 328. LEO C. HERALDIC QUERY (11 S. xii. 29, 110).— Is it possible for the arms to be those of a branch of the Solages family, who bore Azure, a sun or ? As the name Vezian has been mentioned, it may be as well to point out that the first wife of François Paul de Solages, Marquis de Crameaux, 1698, was Marie Anne de Monstuejols, whose mother The mother made over all her property to her daughter on the occasion of this marriage. To prevent any premature conclusions, however, it should be noted that the Solages family used for supporters two angels, and the count's coronet has to be explained. It is a pity the It fourth quartering cannot be described. might be helpful. was a De Vezins. LEO C. [Our correspondent kindly offers to examine the seal if ARMIGER will forward it to him, care of the Editor.] WEIGHT AFTER A MEAL AND DURING HYPNOSIS (11 S. xii. 119, 189).-I have no reason for supposing that the committee of my own club is composed of more intelligent individuals than is usually the case with such institutions, but it certainly has provided the members with a weight-registering book, in addition to a weighing machine, which contains two separate columns, one for the weight shown "before dinner and the other for the weight shown "after dinner." This foresight on the part of our committee presupposes some idea on its part that the popular belief referred to by the querist has no foundation in fact, and it is somewhat difficult to understand that the eating of a meal should make no difference to the weight of a body. It surely stands to reason that an individual who has, amongst other hearty things, indulged in a pint tankard of bitter beer, for instance, which may be assumed to be the equal of one pound avoirdupois, for his lunch should show a corresponding increase in weightto that extent, at least-if he be weighed immediately afterwards. I doubt, from a very casual inspection of the entries in our book, whether this double column is taken much advantage of by the members, though I imagine, for convenience' sake, that the weighing would take place during the daytime, and, therefore, before dinner. It may be said that, this being a club of some age, the form of the weight-register may have been continued from the days of the threebottle men," when it is easy to believe that the corresponding meal indulged in by such heroes would afford much scope for the value of the second column. However, acting upon your correspondent's suggestion, I have recently made the experimentum in corpore vili, and after a moderate luncheon of soup, toast, biscuits and cheese, supplemented by half a pint of cider, I have found in my own case an increase of weight of about one and a half pounds. The two weights, both carefully adjusted, were taken within about half an hour of each other. 66 With reference to any alteration in weight being caused by a state of hypnotism I will not venture to express any opinion. J. S. UDAL, F.S.A. Conservative Club, St. Ja nes's. 'DAME WIGGINS OF LEE'; SIX LITTLE PRINCESSES' (11 S. xii. 199).-Your correspondent could get 'Dame Wiggins of Lee,' with preface by John Ruskin, through any bookseller. It is published by Messrs. G. Allen & Unwin, 40, Museum Street, W.C, price one shilling net. 'Six Little Princesses' was published by Messrs. Warne & Co., but is out of print. I would suggest an advertisement in the Books Wanted' section of The Publishers' Circular. Wм. H. PEET. "Dame Wiggins of Lee and her Seven Wonderful Cats: a humorous tale, written principally by a Lady of Ninety; edited, with preface and additional verses, by John Ruskin, with four new illustrations by Kate Greenaway and twenty-two woodcuts," is now in a fifth edition, and is published by George Allen & Unwin, crown octavo, cloth, at one shilling. ARCHIBALD SPARKE, F.R.S.L. Our version was briefer than that of VINCENT LE BLANC (11 S. xii. 200).—A description of the punishment suffered by Marjery, and ran thus :this worldwide traveller will be found in "The World Surveyed, or the Famous Voyages and Travailes of Vincent le Blanc, or White,....rendred in English by F. B., gent.," London, 1660, p. 288. Le Blanc suffered first at the hands of fifty archers of the town of Fez, who beat him outrageously, 66 Tarasti the very children crying after him Nazarani ! that is, "Kill him!" at every word calling him "Quichequet," dog. "At last," he writes, "I was brought to the Cadi, a judge, to whom I kneeled; but he made me lye along on the ground, and gave me thirty lashes on the back with a whip of ox-sinews and as many bangs on the belly with an Indian cane, so that I was almost dead with the blowes, which had quite benum'd me: yet again for these threescore bangs I must pay as many miticales in gold, which are worth four franks a piece. After all they laid me in prison with another bathed in blood at the same time." MALCOLM LETTS. THE CUCKOO IN FOLK-LORE (11 S. xii. 182, 230). It is doubtless true that to most people the cuckoo is a merry bird." It rejoices the heart in springtime to hear the cuckoo and see the swallow-both surely harbingers of Nature's awakening to sunlight and beauty. But it is well to remember the omen, too : If you hear the cuckoo before you see the swallow, Another rime gives to the cuckoo the control of the season, with consequent advice to the farmer : : When the cuckoo comes to the bare thorn, It is said to be ominous of death to hear BOMBAY GENTLEMEN OF 1792: SAMPLER VERSES (11 S. xii. 94, 164, 229).-I wonder if there are any other old persons alive who can recall as I do the Ulster variant of the lines quoted from Marjery Williams's sampler. If not, it may be worth recording that in the fifties these lines were laboriously inscribed in one's little Bible, lesson books, and the usual fairy tales of a small child's cherished library. At that period, however, this rite was considered to be needful only by servants (who influence children far more than is generally realized), while parents smiled discouragingly on anything so oldfashioned. Frances Hussey is my name, And Ireland is my nation; Dublin is my dwelling-place, And Heaven my expectation. But older forms of the rough jingle were found by us amongst the books of our forein fathers, which may be considered quaint and ancient enough be perpetuated 'N. & Q. Two instances occur in family Bibles carried to Ireland by early settlers the Killing from the terrors of flying Time." to 66 In one Bible, dated 1676, we find three of these rude attempts at rime : I. Alexander Kirkpatrick boght this book. II. Alex: Kirkpatrick is my name, I wold mend it every letter. AUTHOR OF PARODY WANTED (11 S. xi. 150, 271). Thrice is he armed that hath his quarrel just, And four times he who gets his fist in fust. was the author of LUCIS inquired who "Josh Billings this parody. In his reply MR. WALTER JERROLD attributed it to (Henry Wheeler Shaw), but I have searched that worthy's lucubrations without discovering it. If I remember aright, some public speaker quoted the paragraph shortly before the authorship was queried in February Can any of the readers of N. & Q.' It would last. give a reference to the speech? be interesting to run the genesis of the parody to earth, if possible. WILLOUGHBY MAYCOCK. THE SPLIT INFINITIVE (11 S. xii. 198).— An instance of the split infinitive, earlier than 1814, is in Byron's 'Childe Harold,' Canto II. xxv. :— To slowly trace the forest's changing scene. This canto was finished in March, 1810. W. BRIDGES. This construction is very much older than your correspondents seem to be aware. The late Fitzedward Hall, in his paper on the subject in The American Journal of Philology (afterwards reprinted with additions as a pamphlet), traces it back for centuries. Unfortunately, I have mislaid my copy, and cannot give particulars. But see under To, IV. 20, in the 'N.E.D.,' where instances are cited from the fourteenth century downwards. C. C. B. QUEEN ELIZABETH'S FIFTH PARLIAMENT (11 S. xii. 159, 207).-The dates of the successive prorogations of this Parliament, as given in the Journals of the House of Lords and by Sir Symonds D'Ewes, show that it could not have been dissolved in 1585. These dates are: 29 March, 20 May, 7 and 21 June, 11 Oct., 1585; 10 Feb., 26 April, 1586. The reason of there being no index to the Journals of the House of Commons for the latter part of Elizabeth's reign is sufficiently explained by the following MS. note, which has been inserted in the British Museum copy of the printed Journals: Notes on Books. Ipra Opulenta: the Earlier History of Ypres. By Col. Sir Reginald Hardy, Bart. (Harrison & Sons.) THIS little brochure is worth having. The author has brought together in it-rather pell-mell and without setting, but in a lively enough way— pretty well all the data we have for the history of Ypres up to the end of the fourteenth century. It is a history full, as every one knows, of the turbulent energy of mediæval Flanders as picturesque as wealth and adventure, battle and siege, pageants, misfortunes, struggles with kings and rulers, and eager creative activity in the arts could make it. The last incident recorded here is the siege of Ypres-strange to think of-by the English, fighting under Henry Despencer, Bishop of Norwich, on behalf of Pope Urban VI., against the anti-Pope Clement, to whom France adhered. It was a terrible siege enough, as Froissart recounts it-the blockade so thorough that scarce a dog could run out; the besieged manning the wall with even the old and the wounded, and hurling Greek fire, with its deadly stench, upon the enemy. Despencer withdrew on hearing that the French were coming. The most celebrated of all the buildings of Ypres attests, however, relations with England better and of longer standing than those signified by the siege. Even in the tenth century, besides the military connexion between Flanders and England, the commercial relation originating innay, virtually consisting of-the wool trade was begun. Sir Reginald Hardy gives two chapters to the connexion with England, placing between them the principal chapter of the work, which gives an account of Ypres-" Wipers as it was called by every one, he tells us, in Marlborough's time-at the height of her opulence and fame. The supply of English wool was the principal factor in that opulence, and when England began, not only to grow the wool, but likewise to make the cloth, Ypres was among the Flemish cities whose prosperity was sorely touched. By 1382, then, the date of the siege, she had already passed her zenith as a commercial city. As a fortified place Ypres first makes an appearance-fortified by Count Baldwin in 902; and its military importance may be said to have been less subject to chance and change than its commercial standing. The nucleus round which the town collected was an island fort in a tributary of the Yser-the Yperlée-from which munitissima," destined to see much fighting in it increased to being "Hypra Flandriarum civitas the years which stretch beyond our author's limit to the present day. Sir Reginald Hardy gives a most interesting chapter on Art and Literature, of which we must nevertheless say what is also true of the rest of the book, that it would have been still better if the material had been arranged with more care and somewhat less abruptly presented. We have not come across any work about Ypres which, in a small compass, gives the data for these early centuries with anything like the fullness we have here, and we gladly conclude our notice by repeating the sentence we started withThis little brochure is worth having." Essai sur la Mythologie Figurée et l'Histoire Profane dans la Peinture Italienne de la Renaissance. Par Salomon Reinach. (Paris, Leroux.) THIS essay is reprinted from the Revue archéologique, and consists for the most part of a catalogue of pictures arranged under the names of gods and heroic personages belonging to classical antiquity. Only works dating from before 1580 are included; to some of them a short description is added; in each case it is stated where the work now is, and frequent references are given to books on art which mention them, the whole being comprised under fifty-five headings. M. Reinach's object in thus putting together notes collected during a considerable period in the course of other studies is to start the formation of a body of material from which to determine the character of the direct influence of classical antiquity upon the Italian Renaissance. He invites scholars and students of art to communicate to him additions and corrections, which will be published by the Revue, and requests that where possible photographs or drawings should be sent as well. This latter request is the more to the point as M. Reinach's list is already nearly exhaustive in regard to well-known work of the kind falling within the period he has chosen. As he truly remarks, if we throw out as not strictly representative the work of the greatest artists of the Renaissance and their schools, we find but a slender production of this sort, bearing evidence to a correspondingly slender knowledge of, and interest in, classical history and mythology on the part of the patrons of art. As might be expected, Venus is by far the most popular classical figure, and next to her, it would seem, comes Cupid, though Bacchus and Hercules also have found fairly abundant illustration, and Jupiter as a lover evidently commanded interest the stories of Europa and of Leda in particular. Again, we may note the number of paintings of the Sibyls-connecting links as they were, to the imagination of the learned, between paganism and Christianity. The subject here opened up should certainly engage attention. It belongs to a movement in art analogous to that recent movement in science towards a study of function as opposed to morphology pure and simple. We have, perhaps, gone as far as we at present can go in the criticism of 66 works of art as such, with a minimum of reference to their subject. Having done so much, we shall, doubtless, not fall back upon the crude storytelling conception of the relation of a work of art to its subject, or, what is more important, of the reaction of the subject upon the work; but some theory of the relation of the reaction is .essential, and the want of it begins to be felt in the dicta of modern art critics. Perhaps a study of the influence of classical subjects upon the works of art dedicated to them during the Renaissance would be as good a point of departure as 'L'INTERMÉDIAIRE.' LAST week we quoted from L'Intermédiaire a paragraph about Italy. To-day we give some references to the Germans : 6 Ce qu'on a dit des Allemands (lxx. ; lxxi. 21, 57, 106, 146, 237, 288). Dans les Curiositez françoises pour supplément aux Dictionnaires, ou Recueil de plusieurs belles proprietez avec une infinite de proverbes et quolibets pour l'explication de toutes sortes de Livres,' par Antoine Oudin, secrétaire interprette de Sa Majesté, imprimé à Rouen, MDCLVI., on trouve : un "ignorant qui se laisse facilement attraper "; Vous me prenez pour un Allemand, idest pour autres fois les Estrangers. c'est parce que nos marchands surprenoient sier." Je n'y entends que le haut Alleman, i. Contrefaire l'Alleman, "feindre d'estre gros'je n'y entends rien." 64 LE COMTE DE RONZAGLIE. M. Chantel, de Clermont-Ferrand, a copié dans Le Palais de la Fortune,' publié à Lyon en 1690, le passage suivant, qu'il communique aux Annales du 28 février, p. 288: "Les Allemans sont grands beuveurs, comme ils confessent eux-mesmes, et ne s'adonnent pas à ce vice seulement par volupté, mais encore ils croyent que c'est courtoisie et affabilité, tellement qu'il y a quelques princes, à la bonne grâce desquels il n'y a point de plus court ny de meilleur chemin : car les Allemans ne croyent point recevoir plus honnestement les estrangers, que quand ils les convient à un banquet long et où on boit d'autant: et se tiennent assurez de la bien veillance de ceux qu'ils reçoivent, lors qu'ils ne refusent point de s'enyvrer avec eux! fins, soit qu'à cause du vin qu'ils prenent, ils ne "Ils hayssent tous ceux qui semblent faire les peuvent celer leurs secrets, soit que leurs esprits étant comme retouchés dans ces corps, ils soupçonnent la subtilité des autres....Quant au peuple, il obéit tellement à mandent, que souvent il se rapporte à ceux de la ceux qui lui comreligion qu'il doit embrasser, et rarement arrive du contraire. Notices to Correspondents. ON all communications must be written the name and address of the sender, not necessarily for pub lication, but as a guarantee of good faith. BARON BOURGEOIS.-Forwarded. J. ISAACS (The Pursuits of Literature '). Dict. Nat. Biog.' furnishes a long account. Written by Thomas James Mathias, of whom the CORRIGENDUM.-Ante, p. 207, col. 1, 1. 2, read surmounts the white saltire." |