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SUPPLEMENTAL EXHIBIT NO. 5
AFFIDAVIT OF ROBERT E. HEGGESTAD
1. On August 31, 1984, I interviewed Ms. Michiko Kosaka. Ms. Kosaka stated that she was the translator who had been appointed by the Court to translate portions of a cassette tape of Mr. Takeru Kamiyama's testimony given before a Federal Grand Jury in the District Court for the Southern District of New York on July 9, 16, and 21, 1981. Ms. Kosaka stated that the tape was not complete and that she did not recall hearing either the oath or swearing in of Mr. Kamiyama on the tape, Mr. Kosaka stated that she spoke only with the judge, not with the U.S. Attorneys, and that she subsequently submitted the tape and the translation to the Court.
2. Mr. Kosaka stated that although she did not have an opinion on the original interpretation, she recalled that it was a clear case where the interpreter did not understand. She pointed out that the translation of the tape which she had prepared revealed that the interpreter had not translated all of the words in all places and that in some cases, he "just tells the gist of the stories, -- just summarizes." She stated that when there were five or six parts to a question, the interpreter waited until the end and then translated in summary form.
3. I asked Ms. Kosaka what her background and education were in Japanese. Ms. Kosaka stated that she had spent half of her youth in Japan and the other half in other countries. She stated that although her formal education in Japan was very slight, she believed that she had a special ability in translating, particularly with respect to reading technical documents. Ms. Kosaka stated that she was presently working on a thesis in computational linguistics.
4. Ms. Kosaka stated that she had been in this country for approximately 10 years. Ms. Kosaka, however, did not describe any previous experiences during this period in which she had performed interpretive or translation services in a judicial proceeding.
5. Ms. Kosaka stated that she had prepared the "Kamiyama" translation very quickly. She explained that she had completed the translation in 2 weeks, although during that period she had not worked full time on the translation.
TESTIMONY OF RICHARD GRAVELEY
NATIONAL DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS
INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS
THE COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY
UNITED STATES SENATE
SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE CONSTITUTION
It is an honor to submit testimony to this distinguished committee regarding "Government Intervention into Religious Affairs."
The International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON) which I represent, was established in 1966 by His Divine Grace A. c. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada. He hails from an orthodox line of Hindu Vaishnavism dating back approximately 5000 years to the appearance of Lord Krishna. The practices and beliefs of this ancient and monotheistic religion embody tenets of Sanskrit scriptures such as Bhagavad-gita and Srimad Bhagavatam. Srila Prabhupada's English renderings of these texts have brought new meaning and purpose in life to thousands of Westerners. These books, now translated in over 30 languages, form the basis of what is popularly known as the "Hare Krishna Movement."
ISKCON has sixty-five temples and farm communities in America and nearly two-hundred missionary centers in seventy countries worldwide. In the last decade alone, ISKCON Food Relief distributed some fifty million plates of free food to needy people worldwide. In America, ISKCON assists the needy with eighteen free food distribution and temporary housing centers.
Leading international theologists, philosophers and indologists praise ISKCON'S sound scriptural foundation and its humanitarian effort. Yet some label ISKCON a destructive cult. Consequently, ISKCON members sometimes suffer vicious phenomena
unique in American history. This phenomema threatens the safety and well-being of all free thinking God conscious Americans. It is religious deconversion (deprogramming), a coercive act imposed upon members of many religions, both "new" and "established." Victims endure intensive persecution, false imprisonment, and physical, mental and sexual abuse. De programmers have been supported by the courts in many states although their acts blatantly unconstitutional. Futher, the FBI has generally failed to track down these constitutional offenders.
This testimony will first bring to light the illegality of "deprogramming" and then outline steps to prevent it. We will focus on these specific topics:
1. Deprogramm ing: What is it?
The use of court ordered conservatorships.
Special investigations of new religions.
Ex-members filing suit against their religious.
to change their religious convictions. ?
Today, religious persecution has taken the form of highly organized nationwide effort to restrict targeted individuals from maintaining freely chosen religious beliefs.
"De programming" is term coined by Ted Patrick (Black Lightning), a man who has been convicted, jailed and sued for his forcibly kidnapping and assaulting religious victims. It is attempt to remove an individual from his or her involvement in a religious group and convince them to renounce their adherence to that faith or belief. Patrick claims to have been involved in
1600 deprogrammings himself.
The exact figure of attempted
deprogrammings is hard to calculate because practitioners are reluctant to advertise. However, experts in the field estimate that since 1976 between 2,500 to 3,000 American citizens have been subjected. 2
"Deprogramming" has three basic stages.
First is the
abduction of the individual, by force and deception. In this stage the kidnapped victim is often bound, gagged, and transported state lines
location specifically designed
facilitate intensive interrogation.
During the second phase, the
victim is often confined and subjected to physical and sexual
abuse, belligerent criticism of his or her religion, sleep and food deprivation, and other calculated tortures. *Deprogrammers"
aim to break the victim's faith in his religious belief.
two generally continues for a period of five to ten days.
time, the victim generally submits to his captors, either to stop
the torture, or because his faith is actually shattered.
transported to a rehabilitation center in another part of the
country. (Presently, known rehab centers are located in Arizona,
Iowa, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania and New Jersey.)
victim remains confined for approximately one month, a period
meant to "readjust" him to the "real" world.
According to Sociologist Anson Shupe, three types of persons engage in deprogramming attempts. The largest category is the
parents and relatives of the victim.
They pay between $10,000 and
$20,000, plus expenses, regardless of whether the deconversion was
successful or not.
Former members make up the second category.
become enemical towacd their former churches having been converted
to the "deprogrammings" cause.
The third category consists of "sympathetic sideliners" such as psychiatrists, physicians, social workers and journalists. This small but vocal group "lends scientific credance to claims of