A. I think I could have selected two republicans who could count as fast as anybody in the ward. If anybody could get canvassers to count faster than my men, I would be willing to chuck up the sponge. I knew that all Tammany Hall was against me and accused me of being associ ated with the republicans, and I never denied it. NEW YORK, January 9, 1869. MICHAEL BRADY sworn and examined. To the CHAIRMAN: 1819. I reside 494 Dominick street in this city. In reference to illegal voting in this city at the last presidential election I would say, that at the place where I live there is but one voter, and he is my brother. There were registered from this house five names, none of whom resided there. From 54 Sullivan Street there were registered Matthew McLaughlin, John Andrews, James Bowen, George McCloud, and William Wilson, none of whom lived there. I examined the registry list of the 2d, 12th, and 4th districts of the 8th ward. At No. 43 Sullivan street there are but four persons who actually resided there, while there were about 13 names registered from that house. At No. 142 Sullivan street there were quite a number registered, but I only found one of them at the place; his name was C. C. Winkle. At No. 117 Spring street I found eight voters living in the front and rear house, but there were quite a large number registered from the place. I formerly lived at 48 Sullivan street; I see by the poll-list that William H. Dwyer voted from that place; I know him; he never lived there. To Mr. KERR: 5820. I have lived at 49 Dominick street about a month; before that I lived at 48 Sullivan street. I was never in Sing Sing or Blackwell's island. I am not in any business at present. I used to be employed as a detective by Simeon Draper. I was detective about two years. I have been sick for the last two years, and have not followed any business. I had a good deal of money standing out, and have lived with my father. I suppose I had $10,000 standing out. I lent it to parties during the war. I am a machinist by trade, and have been in Russia, where I made a good deal of money. 5821. Q. To whom did you lend this money? A. I decline to answer. 5822. Q. Who supports you now? A. I live with my father. He is a conductor on the Eighth avenue railroad. His name is John Brady. I have never voted or registered more than I was entitled to. I was requested to examine the poll-lists by Major Strong. He is connected with the Union League. I found the poll-books at the Union League club house. There were probably about 200 of them there; I cannot positively say how many. I examined some of them to-day, and previously. He requested me last week to go up there and examine the books. I met him at the club-house, and he showed me the books that I was to examine. 5823. Q. Are you a member of that league? A. I am not; I have many friends, though, connected with it, S. J. Glassey, Major Strong, and others. I should think I examined about six of the books. 5824. Q. Tell me, if you can, the name of any person who was registered from a place where he did not live? A. I can mention John Lawrence, 54 Sullivan street, Michael Laughlin, 531 Broome street; both of these registered twice, to my knowledge. 5825. Q. How do you know that they did? A. I saw them. These are about all I know, except from what I have seen on the poll-list of those registered as residing at my house. 5826. Q. How did you know that these men did not live at your house prior to the time that you went there? A. I used to visit there very frequently. I knew everybody who lived in the house. To Mr. Ross: I cannot say whether the other books that were at the Union League club house were similar to those I examined; they were different sizes. 5827. Q. How long after election did you go around inquiring at the houses to ascertain whether the parties lived there? A. Probably about a week after the charter election in December last. 5828. Q. Was it the frauds in the December election that you were examining? A. No, sir; the State election. By the CHAIRMAN: 5829. Q. You say you examined those books at the Union League club house; which one do you mean? A. I mean the one in Broadway; I think it is 258 Broadway. By Mr. Ross: 5830. Q. Did you lend out that $10,000 to banks or private individuals? A. Private individuals. 5831. Q. Have you got a note for it? A. No, sir; I know a great many of the parties. NEW YORK, January 9, 1869. ROBERT MURRAY recalled and examined, (called at the instance of Mr. Kerr.) By Mr. KERR: 5832. Question. Upon whose authority are the 24 policemen stationed in and about this building? Answer. I asked the superintendent of police this morning to send. me eight or ten men. Things looked rather rough about here at 10 o'clock this morning. There was a rough crowd in the hall, and I made a requisition upon the superintendent for eight or ten men. 5833. Q. Have you that requisition with you? A. No, sir; I did not keep a copy. 5834. Q. How does it read? men. A. Something like this: "I would thank you to send me eight or ten In consequence of the peculiar character of the testimony presented to the congressional committee, I am apprehensive that there will be a disturbance, and desire eight or ten men to keep the peace." 5835. Q. Will you furnish us a copy of that requisition? A. I did not keep a copy. 5836. Q. By what authority did you make that requisition? A. By my authority as marshal. I have charge of this building, and am responsible for it." 5837. Q. Do the laws of the United States put you in charge of the public buildings here? A. I believe they do. 5838. Q. Is it in pursuance of any law that a marshal of the United States makes a requisition upon a police officer of a State to furnish him with policemen ? A. I do not know whether there is any law upon the subject or not. I frequently do it. 5839. Q. How does it come, in response to a requisition for eight or ten men, that he sent you 24? A. That is a question he will have to answer himself. 5840. Q. What trouble did you anticipate that led you to request this force? A. When I was passing out of this room, when I was in here this morning, I was hissed by the crowd standing in the entry. It was a very rough crowd, and upon consultation with some of my men who were mixing with this crowd, I came to the conclusion that there would be trouble, and I immediately wrote this communication and sent it. I sent one of my clerks with it to the superintendent's office. Why he sent me 24 men I do not know. 5841. Q. By whom were you hissed? A. I cannot tell. By the sound of the voices I should think there were quite a number. 5842. Q. Where were they? A. Right at the door of the committee room. 5843. Q. Then it is for your personal protection that you did this? A. Not altogether; I have considerable courage. 5844. Q. For what purpose then? A. For the protection of this building and the records of the court. 5845. Q. Did you apprehend that they were in danger? A. I do not know whether they were or not. I take great precaution in all things. 5846. Q. Did you assign these policemen their station?. A. No, sir. 5847. Q. When they came here did they apply to you for orders! A. The sergeant came to me and said he had a file of men here and wanted to know what disposition to make of them. I told him I wanted order kept in the hall, and the door of this committee-room kept clear. 5848. Q. Do you think you have the right to bring these policemen here and supersede the sergeant-at-arms of this committee? A. I had nothing to do with the policemen. I supposed that you were going to conduct your own business in your own way, with your own sergeant-at-arms. 5849. Q. Suppose our sergeant-at-arms wanted the witnesses in the hall and in the doorway? A. He told me that he did not. 5850. Q. Did he ask you to send for these policemen ? A. No, not particularly. 5851. Q. Did you have any talk with him on the subject? A. Not to-day. I did yesterday. By the CHAIRMAN: 5852. Q. State if you made this requisition upon the chief of police at the request of any member of this committee; or with the knowledge or at the suggestion of any member of this committee. A. I did not. 5853. Q. Or at the request of the clerk of the committee? A. No, sir. 5854. Q. State if Barney Aaron was in the hall? A. I do not know him. I was told this morning there was quite number of roughs in the hall. By Mr. KERR: 5855. Q. Do you think the men you have seen about here to-day as witnesses were any more vicious in their character than those you have seen about here for the last few days? A. I testified yesterday that I derived my knowledge of those parties from other people. I know but very few of the men here to-day; but from the character of the men who were here yesterday and to-day I don't see much difference. 5856. Q. Do I understand from what you say that, notwithstanding the desire of the committee, you intend to keep these men here? A. I will, so long as I deem it necessary to protect the building. A. Yes, sir; I have no desire whatever to interfere with the committee. NEW YORK, January 9, 1869. JOHN W. LEBARNES recalled and examined, (at the instance of Mr. Kerr.) By Mr. KERR: 5858. Q. State whether the police force, consisting of 24, now in and about this building, was brought here upon your procurement or with your advice and consent? A. No, sir; they were not. 5859. Q. Were you consulted before they came here? A. No, sir; I knew nothing about their coming here. I have been waiting for an opportunity to inquire how they came. I was very glad to see them here, however. 5860. Q. Did you have any conversation with Marshal Murray about bringing them here? A. No, sir. NEW YORK, January 9, 1869. THOMAS A. MCGLADE called and examined. To the CHAIRMAN: 5861. I reside at No. 233 West Thirty-first street. I am bar-tender at the Compton House. In reference to a list of 152 names referred to in the testimony of George Mabee, I would say that I am not acquainted with all the boarders in the Compton House. I am only there from 7 o'clock in the morning till 7 o'clock at night. I did not go there until the 27th of October last. Some of the names I recognize; they are as follows: James H. Blackwell, Christopher Brown, Daniel Brown, Daniel A. Creamer, Gilbert A. Meigs, Theodore Morrell, Thomas Morrow, Henry Owens, Samuel Purdy, Benjamin F. Pease, John W. Phelps, Maurice Powers, John Rollins, Thomas Rogers, John F. Scannell, Henry Steinchmann, David Stevenson, Edgar C. Suydam, Daniel H. Southworth, Florence Scannell, Peter Smith, Charles Vanbergan, Louis Willsley, Peter Carroll, J. F. Southworth, Harry R. McCready, William Long, Peter Garvin, and William P. Suydam. I may know two-thirds of the parties named by sight. 5862. Q. Who are the proprietors of the Compton House? A. Fagin & Scannell. 863. Q. What do you know about this business of repeating? ate. I do not know anything about it. I have heard about it, but do know anything about it of my own knowledge. 5864. Q. Where is the hotel registry containing the names of the persons who stopped at the hotel from the last of October to the 10th.of November? A. I believe it is in the possession of the proprietors of the house. By Mr. Ross: 5865. Q. Are there a good many people around the Compton House whom you do not know? A. A good many. 5866. Q. You do not know the regular boarders? A. No, sir; I do not. NEW YORK, January 9, 1869. JOHN JONES Sworn and examined, (called at the instance of Mr: Kerr.) To Mr. KERR: 5867. I reside at 202 East Thirty-first street. I have been there about a year. I keep a plumber's store. I know Marcus Cicero Stanley. I also know Marshal Murray. I am not acquainted with George Wilkes. A few days before election a friend of mine, Mr. Hogan, came to me and asked me to go over to the Fifth Avenue Hotel with him, and said that he had an engagement with Marshal Murray and Mr. Stanley. My partner, a man by the name of Ferguson, Hogan, and myself went over there, and met Marshal Murray and Stanley. Marshal Murray wanted to know if we could get some men to repeat. Hogan said he could. He then wanted to know how much he wanted for it, and Hogan replied, "a thonsand dollars for ten men." They had some conversation, and Hogan finally agreed for us four to go for $300. We then agreed to meet them the night previous to the election at the Hoffman House. We were there and met Stanley and Murray. Murray introduced us to another gentleman with black whiskers. I do not know his name. He took Hogan to one side and after a little talk gave us $300, and made an arrangement to meet us on the following morning. Hogan then joined us and we went to the bar-room, and he gave us $75 a piece. The following morn ing we met this man at the corner of Twenty-fourth street and Third avenue. He gave us some tickets and names to vote on. We went through the 18th ward and voted at five or six places, then went to the 21st ward and voted at some districts there. I was arrested in the 14th district of that ward. There was no one with me when I was arrested. I was taken up before the court, and I had to stay in the station-house until I sent for bondsmen to get me out. 5868. Q. To what extent did your company carry out the programme! A. We all worked in every name they gave us until I was arrested. I cannot say positively what the others did.. I suppose I voted between 10 and 12 times before I was arrested. 5869. Q. For whom did these men desire you to do this business; in whose interest? A. In the interest of the republican party. I have always been a republican myself, and have always voted that ticket heretofore. By the CHAIRMAN : 5870. Q. Who was present at the Fifth Avenue Hotel when this conversation took place? A. Marcus Cicero Stanley, Marshal Murray, and us four. There were several gentlemen standing around. |