PUBLIC LAND MANAGEMENT POLICY

OVERSIGHT HEARING

BEFORE THE

SUBCOMMITTEE ON

PUBLIC LANDS AND NATIONAL PARKS

OF THE

COMMITTEE ON

INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

NINETY-EIGHTH CONGRESS

COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona, Chairman

HARRY CRANDELL, Staff Director

LORETTA NEUMAN, Consultant

BARBARA PHILLIPS, Staff Assistant

CLAY E. PETERS, Republican Consultant on National Parks and Recreation

NOTE. The first listed minority member is counterpart to the subcommittee chairman.

(II)

CONTENTS

Hearing held:

February 24, 1983.

Statements:

Arnett, Hon. G. Ray, Assistant Secretary for Fish and Wildlife and Parks,

U.S. Department of the Interior.....

Oberstar, Hon. James L., a U.S. Representative from the State of Minne-
sota

Panel consisting of:

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2, 89

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Terry B. Morton, chairman, U.S. Committee on the International

Council on Monuments and Sites..

64, 177

Peter D. King, executive director, National Conference of State His-

toric Preservation Officers......

67, 188

Nellie L. Longworth, president, Preservation Action

68, 239

Harrison B. Wetherill, vice president and general counsel, National

Trust for Historic Preservation.

70, 243

Panel consisting of:

Ronald J. Tipton, director, national parks program, the Wilderness

Society.

75, 250

William Liensech, assistant director for Federal activities, National

Parks and Conservation Association..

79, 260

Barry S. Tindall, director of public affairs, National Recreation and

Park Association

84, 263

APPENDIX

THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 1983

Additional material submitted for the hearing record from:

U.S. Department of the Interior:

Prepared statement: Hon. G. Ray Arnett, Assistant Secretary for Fish

and Wildlife and Parks

Prepared statement: Hon. Russell E. Dickenson, Director, National Park

Service....

Letter from Hon. G. Ray Arnett, to Hon. John F. Seiberling, chairman,

Subcommittee on Public Lands and National Parks, dated April 1,

1983, introducing a report entitled: "Acid Rain (Atmospheric Deposi-

tion)" compiled by the Water Resources Division, National Park Serv-

ice. This material was requested by Hon. Richard H. Lehman, a U.S.

Representative from the State of California and member of the subcom-

mittee.....

Letter from Hon. Harry Reid, a U.S. Congressman from the State of Nevada,

to Chairman Seiberling, dated February 22, 1983, commenting on appropri-

ations for purchase of land in the Lake Tahoe Basin.

U.S. Department of the Interior:

Departmental manual transmittal sheet entitled: "Organization-Nation-

al Park Service"..

Letter for Hon. Arnett, to Chairman Seiberling, dated March 14, 1983,

identifying the authority to support an exchange of interests in land

within a park system area.

Memorandum from Hon. James G. Watt, Secretary, U.S. Department of

the Interior, entitled "Florida NPS Resource Issues" (with enclosure).....

Enclosure: List of names entitled "Membership-Secretary's Re-

source Roundtable"

American Institute of Architects: Prepared statement of Thomas A. Kamstra,
chairman, regional development and natural resources committee.......
Answers to questions 4 and 5 submitted by committee staff to Department on
estimated dates of completion of land protection plans

International Council of Monuments and Sites: Prepared statement of Hon.
Terry B. Morton ........

National Conference of State Historic Preservation Officers:

Prepared statement of Peter D. King, executive officer (with enclosures) ...
1. Sweet's White Paper Report entitled: "Renovation's Promise: Con-
struction's New Growth Markets"

2. Addendum to Sweet's White Paper Report entitled: "Renovation
Blueprint for the Future"

3. Letter from William's Real Estate Corp., to Hon. Ed Harper,
Assistant to the President for Policy Development, dated January
31, 1983, objecting to zeroing out matching grants to States for
historic preservation

4. Letter from the William L. and Katherine Slick; and Lonnie and
Dana Lucero, Plaza Hotel, Las Vegas, N. Mex., to Hon. Ed Harper,
dated January 6, 1983, protesting proposed limitation of the State
historical preservation office

5. Letter from Robert F. Greco, DOT Working Group Representative,
DOT Historic Preservation Officer, U.S. Department of Transporta-
tion, to Carol Bickley, Office of Management Policy, National Park
Service, U.S. Department of the Interior, dated August 2, 1982,
reviewing four issues of historic preservation.......

6. Report from the Department of Housing and Urban Development
entitled: "Recommended Areas of Inquiry for Task Force Review of
36 CFR 800”.

7. Report from the Department of Agriculture entitled: "Additional
Costs and Staff Needs if SHPO's Not Funded".

8. Letter from Michael D. Vandeveer, mayor, Evansville, Ind., to
James M. Ridenour, Indiana State Preservation Officer, dated Oc-
tober 22, 1981, requesting a review of the downtown Evansville
Multiple Resources District

9. Letter from Hon. Joel Deckard, a U.S. Representative from the
State of Indiana, to James N. Ridenour, urging designation of 114
sites and buildings in Evansville as certified historic structures.........
10. Series of five articles from the Evansville Courier and the Evans-
ville Press on the issue of historic preservation and downtown
development......

11. Letter from Mayor Vandeveer to downtown property owners,
dated February 8, 1982, inviting interested parties to a meeting on
the possibility of having their buildings nominated for the historic
register.

12. Letter from Thomas J. McEvoy, chairman, board of selectmen,
North Andover, Mass., to Wendy Frontiero, Massachusetts Historic
Commission, dated February 8, 1982, encouraging certification of
"Machine Shop Village" as a historic district....

13. Letter from Richard Wagner, director, downtown design project,
Manhattan, Kans., to Hon. Bob Whittaker, a U.S. Representative
from the State of Kansas, dated February 7, 1983, protesting new
proposals for review of historic districts..

14. Revised report from Jerry L. Rogers, Associate Director, National
Register Programs, National Park Service, U.S. Department of the
Interior......

15. Letter from Peter D. King, executive director, National Confer-
ence of State Historic Preservation Officers, to Alexander Aldrich,
chairman, Advisory Council on Historic Preservation, dated No-
vember 19, 1982, protesting an OMB decision to delay public com-
ment of section 106...

Preservation Action: Prepared statement of Nellie L. Longworth, president.......
National Trust for Historic Preservation: Prepared statement of Harrison B.
Wetherill, vice president and general counsel

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The Wilderness Society: Prepared statement of Ronald J. Tipton, director for national parks and wildlife refuge programs

250

National Parks and Conservation Association: Prepared statement of William
C. Liensech, assistant director of Federal activities....

260