The paper will be found attached to the deposition of Mr. Salisbury, and marked as Exhibit U. Q. I call your attention to another specimen, and ask you to examine that and state what it is called in the trade.-A. I do not know. I never handled that kind of paper. Mr. WILSON. I offer that specimen as an exhibit to the cross-examination of Mr. Salisbury, and ask that it be marked by the stenographer. The specimen will be found attached to this deposition as a part thereof, and marked Exhibit V. Q. I call your attention to a specimen of paper there, and I will ask you what it is?-A. I should call that book paper. Mr. WILSON. I offer that specimen in evidence as a part of the cross-examination of Mr. Salisbury, and desire that it shall be marked by the stenographer. The paper will be found attached to this deposition as a part thereof, and marked Exhibit W. Q. Please look at that specimen and tell us what it is.-A. That may be a book paper, or it may be what they call a light flat cap paper, I should think. Mr. WILSON. I offer that specimen in evidence as a part of the cross-examination of Mr. Salisbury, and desire that it be marked by the stenographer. The paper will be found attached to this deposition as a part thereof, and marked Exhibit X. Q. Did you watch the election of the 7th day of November, 1882?—A. No, sir. Q. Can you tell the difference between those two tickets Mr. Peelle called your attention to the Democratic and Republican tickets-by feeling them?—A. I do not know that I can. I do not remember now. Re-examination by Mr. PEELLE: Q. If they were folded up, could you tell the difference between them in handling them; can you tell which is the Republican and which is the Democratic ticket by holding them in your hands, by feeling them when folded?-A. There is a plain difference in the feeling of them, one being thicker than the other. Q. I believe you stated that your manufacture of paper consisted principally of news and book paper in your experience ?-A. Yes, sir. Q. And it is as a manufacturer, therefore, of news and book paper that you answer that this Republican ticket is printed on book paper?-A. Yes, sir. Q. And beyond the domain of book paper you do not profess to be an expert as a manufacturer, as I understand it?-A. No, sir. Q. But you are familiar with all kinds of paper from handling it as a dealer?—A. Yes, sir. HENRY SALISBURY. Exhibit U to the deposition of Henry Salsbury, on cross-examination.-Paul C. Hendricks, Notary Public. (Omitted. See original, page 1271.) (Indorsed :) Exhibit U to the cross-examination of Mr. Salisbury. Exhibit V to the deposition of Henry Salsbury, on cross-examination.—Paul C. Hendricks. Notary Public. (Omitted. See original, page 1272.) (Indorsed:) Exhibit V to cross-examination of Mr. Salisbury. Exhibit W to cross-examination of Henry Salsbury.—Paul C. Hendricks, Notary Public. (Omitted. See original, page 1273.) (Indorsed :) Exhibit W to cross-examination of Mr. Salisbury. Exhibit X to cross-examination of Henry Salsbury.-Paul C. Hendricks, Notary Public. (Omitted. See original, page 1274.) (Indorsed:) Exhibit X to cross-examination of Mr. Salisbury. W. C. DAVID, being first duly sworn, testified as follows: Direct examination by Mr. PEELLE: Q. State your name, age, and residence.-A. W. C. David; 38 years old; residence, 131 North Meridian street, Indianapolis, Indiana. Q. What is your trade or business?-A. At present I am employed with the collector of internal revenue. Q. Did you attend the election in this city in 1882 ?-A. I did, sir. Q. You are a Republican, I believe?-A. Yes, sir. Q. At what precinct and ward did you attend the election in this city?—A. I think it is the second precinct, here on Ohio street, between Penusylvania and Meridian, in the 11th ward. Q. Who was inspector at that precinct?-A. Mr. Kitz, the township trustee. Q. State what portion of the day you were there.-A. I was there nearly all day, probably from ten o'clock in the morning, all day, until the closing of the polls. I may have left for dinner; it is likely I did. Q. Did you act in any capacity as a challenger or worker there?—A. I was a worker at the polls. Q. Did you see the tickets and observe them or not as they were voted by the voters there?-A. Yes, sir. Q. Did you hear any complaint made there by any one about the Republican ticket in any way?-A. In what particular way? Q. Any complaint or objection to the character of the Republican ticket.—A. No, sir; I heard none. Q. I hand you a ticket headed "Republican ticket," and marked Exhibit A to the deposition of Mr. Holliday, and I will ask you to state if that is the ticket voted by the Republicans at that precinct that day, if you know.-A. It looks as though it might be the same ticket. Q. I hand yon a ticket headed “Democratic ticket," marked Exhibit B to the deposition of Mr. Holliday, and I will ask you to state if that is the ticket used by the Democrats at that precinct on that day?-A. It resembles the ticket used on that day. Q. State if those tickets are folded separately with the names on the inside, as tickets are ordinarily, or usually, folded by voters when they vote, you could tell or distinguish one from the other by sight as a voter would go up to the box to deposit his ballot -A. I could not. Q. State if you made any effort that day to tell how men were voting by the appearance of their tickets?-A. I presume I did. I usually do in standing around the polls endeavor to ascertain what ticket a man is voting when he is going up the chute if I can. Q. Were you or not able to do that that day in any instance ?-A. I was not; not from looking at them. Q. State if any complaint was made to the board that day about the character of the Republican ticket by any one that you know of.-A. I heard none. Q. State if you know of any one who cast more than one of those votes at a time there-voted two ballots.-A. I know that I went up to the chute with two tickets folded up, but they were not voted. Q. Was your attention called to it?-A. It was, sir. Q. How did that occur?-A. It was when I first went to the polls in the morning, and I had no tickets in my possession, and I asked some person-I don't know who it was now-that I met at the corner to give me a ticket, and he handed me, as I supposed, one; and, glancing at it casually, I ascertained that it was the Republican ticket, and I folded it up and went up to the chute and gave my name, and handed the ticket to Mr. Kitz, and then went down the chute; and when I reached the foot, Mr. Kitz remarked, he says, "Will, you have got two tickets folded here"; and I turned around and went back, and he handed me the tickets, and there were two tickets folded together. Q. What remark did you make to him at the time?-A. The Democratic challenger spoke to me and says something like, "That won't do," or some such remark as that, which I did not like very well, and I simply turned to him and said, "I think you ought to make no remarks, for if that had gone into the box I should have been the loser and you the gainer." That was the Democratic challenger. I think it was Mr. Meyers; and I said if that had gone into the box he would be the gainer, and I the loser, as my vote would have been thrown out. Q. The two tickets being folded together?-A. Yes, sir; they were folded length ways. Q. When your attention was called to it you folded one up and handed it in ?—A. Yes, sir. Q. The township trustee knew you very well?-A. Oh, yes, sir; he has known me for years. Q. How long have you lived here?-A. I have lived here since 1859, with the exception of the time I was in the Army. Cross-examination, by Mr. WILSON: Q. What official position did you hold at that time?—A. I held no official position at that time. Q. What official position did you hold prior to that time?-A. Up to 1878 I held a position under the United States marshal, General Spooner. I was with him twelve years. Q. You retired in 1878?-A. I think it was 1878, or the early part of 1879. When Dudley came in I went out. Q. What position do you hold now?-A. Clerk in the collector's office of internal revenue. Q. Can you tell one of those tickets from the other by handling them?-A. No, sir ; I do not think I can. By Mr. PEELLE: Q. You do not remember of having handled them to see?-A. I made no effort to detect them in that way. WILLIAM C. DAVID. W. C. NEWCOMB, being first duly sworn, testified as follows: Direct examination by Mr. PEELLE: Q. State your name, age, and residence.-A. W. C. Newcomb; 51 years old; residence, 107 St. Joseph st., Indianapolis, Ind. Q. What is your occupation?-A. Flour and feed business at present. Q. You are a Republican, I believe?-A. Yes, sir; always trained in that camp. Q. Did you attend the Congressional election in this city in 1882, in November?—A. Yes, sir; I did. Q. In what precinct and ward?-A. Second precinct, Sixth ward. Q. Were you occupying any official position there?-A. I was committeeman of the ward, and assisted the challenging committee at the election. Q. What portion of the day were you at the polls?-A. I think I was there pretty near all day. Q. Did you see the tickets voted ?-A. Yes, sir. Q. I hand you a ticket headed "Republican ticket," and marked Exhibit A to the deposition of Mr. Holliday, and I will ask you to state if that is the ticket used by the Republicans on that day at that precinct?—A. It looks very much like it; I think that is the same ticket. Q. I hand you a ticket headed "Democratic ticket" and marked Exhibit B to the deposition of Mr. Holliday, and I will ask you to state if that is the ticket used by the Democrats on that day?-A. I should think it was; it has that appearance. Q. State if, when those tickets are folded with the names on the inside, as tickets are ordinarily folded by voters when voted, if you could by sight tell or distinguish one from the other?-A. When they were being voted it was very hard to distinguish them. They are folded up and held in the hand so you cannot see the entire ticket; if you could get to see the entire ticket, as that is folded up in that way, you could tell the difference, but in voting there was several parties all day watching every one to know how they voted, and several times I could not tell what ticket they were voting, if I could only see part of the ticket. Q. Could you, in fact, tell one ticket from the other when they were being voted ?— A. No, sir; I think not; I could not, because I tried that day on several occasions to tell what ticket a party voted, and seeing a part of the ticket I could not do it. Q. Was any objection made there that day to the character of this Republican ticket?-A. I think not. Q. Did the vote as counted out at that precinct correspond with the poll-list ?—A. I think it did exactly; there were two tickets, I think. I know there was two Republican tickets thrown out that were laid out that we supposed to be voted together, and I think it proved so, and on footing up and tallying I think there was one of each party voted that way, and we were satisfied they were voted togther, and laid them out until we got through, and in counting the tally-sheet we became convinced that they were voted double. Q. And they were not counted?-A. No, sir; that is my impression. I am sure there was one, and I think there was one of each party. Cross-examination by Mr. WILSON: Q. Could you tell the difference between those tickets by feeling them and handling them?-A. Oh, yes; I could tell the difference by handling, because one was a good deal thicker and more of it than the other. Question by Mr. PEELLE: Q. Have you or not been able to do that in elections prior to 1882 in this city ?—A. There has always been a difference in them, and frequently a difference more marked in sight than this time. The tickets were the same length and width, and I have known before at almost all previous elections there was a difference in the width so one could tell from the thickness which ticket they were voting, but this time they were the same length and width, and it was very hard to tell unless you could make a close observation of the ticket. W. C. NEWCOMB. M. F. CONNETT, being first duly sworn, testified as follows: Direct examination by Mr. PEELLE: Q. State your name, age, and residence.-M. F. Connett; age, 33; residence, Indianapolis, Ind. Q. What is your business?-A. I am city assessor at present. Q. How long have you resided in this city ?-A. Since September, 1871. Q. How long have you been city assessor?-A. Since September, 1879. Q. Did you attend the Congressional election in this city in November, 18821—A. Yes, sir. Q. What precinct and ward?-A. Second precinct, 13th ward. I will say here that I am not positive about the number of the precinct. It was the north precinct of the ward, north of Vermont street-Vermont street being the dividing line. Q. Who was the inspector?-A. The inspector was Thomas E. Chandler. Q. I hand you a ticket headed "Republican ticket," and marked Exhibit A to the deposition of Mr. Holliday, and I will ask you to state if that is the Republican ticket voted at that election.-A. I presume that is the same ticket. Q. I hand you a ticket headed "Democratic ticket," and marked Exhibit B, to the deposition of Mr. Holliday, and I will ask you to state if that is the ticket used by the Democrats at that election.-A. Yes, sir; that is the ticket, I think. Q. In what capacity did you act in at the polls that day?—A. I was challenger for the Republicans. Q. How much of the time?-A. All of the time. Q. Were you there all day?-A. Yes, sir. Q. State if, when those tickets were folded in the hands of voters, with the names on the inside, as tickets are generally and ordinarily folded when voted, if it could be told or distinguished from the Democratic ticket by sight?-A. I could not tell them when the voters would come to the chute-with this ticket? Q. That is what I mean.-A. No, sir; you could not tell. Q. Did you make any effort to do it?-A. Certainly; we always do. We never make much effort to distinguish what kind of a ticket a man was voting if we knew him to be a legal voter in the ward; but with strangers and men that are suspected of bartering their vote for money we are very particular, and try to find out what kind of tickets they vote. Q. Could you tell the difference between those tickets from the feeling of them!A. Oh, yes, sir. Q. Have you been able at elections previous to 1882 to tell that?-A. I have always been better able to tell it than this last time from the simple reason that one party or the other would print their tickets on very thin paper-even thinner than that Democratic ticket-and had a habit of putting a very heavy impression upon it, so the ticket would be sometimes as readily read from the back as from the front. I have acted as challenger and filled that position there for eight years, and I did more of it this time than ever before, for if a man held his ticket close we could not tell anything about it. Of course, if he came up with his ticket held loosely you could tell; but there is not one man in a hundred that voted that way in our part of town. Q. State how many precincts there were in the 13th ward at the November election, 1882?-A. Two. Q. Did they ever vote by the precincts in that way before?-A. Not in that way. We voted at the April election by precincts, but we had three. Q. Do you know Esador Dietch-A. Yes, sir. Q. Was he at work there at the polls that day ?-A. Yes, sir. Q. The same precinct where you were?-A. Yes, sir; he lives in our precinct. Q. What is his business?-A. I guess he is kind of a broker; I always understood that that was his business. He deals in horses and buggies, and speculates. Q. How far is his house from the precinct there-from the voting place?-A. It must be nearly a square -that is, to go in the front way; but to go in the back way it is not probably over half a square from the voting place., Q. Did you observe Mr. Dietch that day?-A. Oh, yes; I noticed him very frequently. He is one of the most important workers on the other side, and I did not get away from him very far. Q. Did he have whisky anywhere there that day? (Objected to as incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial.) A. That was the report. Q. State what you know about his having whisky there, or selling it or giving it away that day?-A. Some of our boys said they were getting their whisky there, and I told the old gentleman he would get into trouble if he was not careful; I am testifying to report; I do not know anything about that. (Objected to as incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial.) Q. State what you know from what you saw there that day.-A. From my own personal knowledge I do not know anything; only I know they arrested him for giving away whisky. Q. What do you know about his giving away whisky, or what did you see about that? A. Personally I did not see his whisky; I do not know anything about it in that way. Q. What did you say to him about it?-A. I told him the rumor was that he was giving away whisky, and I told him he would get into trouble, and he asked me if I would go to his house and have a drink, and I told him no, I would drink with the Republicans, and I told him I did not want to get him into any trouble. Q. What do you know in regard to the boys that went to his house to get a drink?— A. I do not know whether they got any or not. Q. What was their conduct when they got back? (Objected to.) A. We were all very boisterous over there on election day, and I do not know as I would care to testify about that. Q. You say he was arrested there that day on that charge?-A. Yes, sir. Q. Was he arrested there on that day on any other charge?-A. Yes, sir; he was arrested shortly after that for attempting to purchase a vote; that is what he was arrested for. Q. Did you see the man it was reported he had bought? A. Yes, sir; I saw the man taken out of the chute. Q. Did he attempt to vote?-A. Yes, sir; he came up and gave his name, and we usually interrogate a man and ask him where he lives, if we do not know where he lives, and so I asked him, "Where do you live, sir?" and of course everybody always undertakes to answer for a man, and there was considerable confusion, and I insisted upon the question being answered, and he answered, “295 Bright street," and the man that lived at that number grabbed him by the collar and pulled him over the chute and said, "You don't live there; I live there myself," and in the excitement and hurry of the business I staid right by the chute and didn't follow them up. They surged on down Vermont st., and I do not know what finally became of it; but I know they took the old man off again. Q. That was Mr. Dietch ?-A. Yes, sir. Cross-examination by Mr. WILSON: Q. Was that a colored man -A. Yes, sir. Q. What was his name?-A. Lacy. Q. What was his full name?-A. I do not recollect his first name. I always had known him as "old Lacy." Q. Did you see Mr. Dietch trying to purchase that vote?—A. No, sir; the first I knew of it was when he was in the chute. Q. All you know about it was what you heard on that score?-A. I did not see him purchase it; but I said he was arrested for attempting to purchase it. Q. Do you know anything about the attempt to purchase it?-A. I know something about it. Q. Can you tell one of those tickets from the other by feeling?-A. Yes, sir. M. F. CONNETT. GEORGE T. PORTER, being first duly sworn, testified as follows: Direct examination by Mr. PEELLE : Q. State your name, age, and residence.-A. George T. Porter; age, 34; residence, Indianapolis, Indiana. Q. What is your business?—A. I am attorney at law. Q. How long have you been engaged in the practice?-A. Six or seven years. Q. You are the son of Governor Porter of this State ?-A. Yes, sir. Q. State if yon attended the Congressional election in this city in November, 1882?—A. Yes, sir. Q. What precinct and ward?—A. I do not know what precinct it was. It was up here on Ohio st., between Meridian and Pennsylvania. Q. What ward?-A. I believe it is the 11th ward. Q. Who was the inspector?-A. The inspector was Frnest Kitz, I think. Q. Township trustee?-A. Yes, sir. Q. Were you there acting as challenger or worker?-A. I was acting as a citizen. I was not challenger, for I challenged nobody that I remember; but I was there most of the day, and was working in the interest of the Republican party. Q. Did you handle the poll-book that day?—A. Yes; I had the poll-book much of the day that was prepared for the Republican canvass, I believe. Q. You challenged no votes there that day?-A. Not that I think of. I do not think I ever challenged any voter, anywhere, at any election. Q. I hand you a ticket headed "Republican ticket," and marked Exhibit A to |