Q. What date?

A. The day of my arrival on the steamer-the 28th of October, 1865.

Q. You made these entries in your diary at the time?

Q. Was he present when you wrote them down?

A. On one occasion, the 3d of November, when he gave me the address of Surratt in Liverpool, I wrote it down in his presence.

Q. That you wrote down in his presence?

A. Yes, sir; he gave me a pencil, and I wrote it down. He abstracted the direction of a letter from a post office, which he gave me, and for which I gave him a small present.

Q. What was the present?

A. A tobacco-pouch, worked with beads by the Indians.

Q. You gave him that present for the information?

A. Yes, sir; and for his politeness to me.

Q. Was it for this information that you gave him the present?

A. Yes, I did; I wanted to know where John Surratt was.

Q. You wanted to find him out, did you?

A. I wanted to meet him.

Q. You were not in pursuit of him?

A. I married in Cecil county; settled there for a time.

Q. Settled in what?

A. I was in business for a time.

Q. Settled in what business?

A. In the grain business.

Q. That was your business, was it?

A. Yes, sir; for a time, until I became a student for the ministry, and I then became an Episcopal minister.

Q. How long did you continue in the grain business?

A. I think it was something more than a year; perhaps a year and a half.

Q. How old were you when you went into the grain business?

A. I may have been twenty-two or twenty-three.

Q. Were you married?

A. I was; I was with my father-in-law.

Q. Did you continue in the grain business more than a year?

A. No, sir; not much more than a year.

Q. Was there any difficulty or trouble in it?

A. I was not very successful as a business man.

Q. And when you abandoned the grain business you went into the ministry?

Where did you study?

A. At the General Theological Seminary, New York.

Q. Were you admitted or licensed?

A. I was; I received deacon's orders from Bishop Whittingham
Q. When did you get deacon's orders?

A. It was on the Trinity Sunday ordination of 1861, I think.
Q. What day was that?

A. I do not remember the day; it was on Trinity Sunday.
Q About what time of the year?

A. It must have been in May or June, 1861.

Q. After you went into the ministry, what did

A. I left for the South about that time.

Q. When did you leave for the South?

A. I think I first crossed June 24, 1861.

you do?

Q. Had the war commenced when you took orders?

A. Yes; I then intended to remain.

Q. Were you educated in Maryland?

A. I was to some extent; I received a portion of my education in New York Q. Were you born in Maryland?

A. No, sir; I was born in the city of Philadelphia.

Q. Were you educated there?

A. I received some instruction in my early life there, probably.

Q. In what school?

A. I was so young when I left there I am not able to state.

Q. By whom were you educated?

A. In part by Stephen Roswell.

Q. And you took orders in the Episcopal church? Are you in that church

now?

A. No, sir; I became a Roman Catholic.

Q. When did you become a Roman Catholic?

A. The 1st of May, 1865.

Y. Before you were an Episcopalian, what were you?

A. In early life I was a Catholic; I was educated a Catholic in early life. Q. Then you were educated a Catholic and became a Protestant?

A. My early religious education, until I was ten or eleven years old, was that of a Catholic.

Q. And then you became a Protestant? How long did you continue a Protestant?

A. It was four years.

Q. How old were you when you began to be a Protestant, and how old when you ceased?

A. I cannot recollect positively my age, except by looking back. I will ask you to give me one question at a time.

Q. When did you first become a Protestant?

A. I attended Episcopal church, by direction of my father, when I was about ten or eleven years old.

Q. Was your father a Catholic?

A. No; he had a strong prejudice against the Catholics.

Q. Was your mother a Catholic?

A. She was before she was married.

Q. Has she been since?

A. No, sir; my father did not approve of that religion.

Q. When did you go back again to the Catholics?

A. I have told you I made an open abjuration of the Protestant faith on the

Q. How long did you continue a clergyman in the Protestant church before you made your open abjuration?

A. I think I told you once before-four years.

Q. When did you first get to Richmond?

A. I left the 24th of June, 1861. I arrived at Richmnnd on the 3d or 4th,

or, perhaps, the 6th of July. I was sometime running the blockade.

Q. You ran the blockade, did you? Who did you see when you first got into Richmond?

WITNESS. The first time?

Mr. PIERREPONT. Yes.

A. I saw great numbers of persons-soldiers and civilians.

Q. Were you acquainted with them?

A. With some of them.

Q. You were a Philadelphian?

A. No, sir; I had lived for some time in Maryland. My family were there. Q. Does your father live in Maryland?

A. He has lived there.

Q. You went into the grain business, at Elkton, I believe. Did you thing else while you were there?

A. No, sir.

Q. Were you ever at Winchester, Virginia?

A. Yes.

Q. Will you tell the jury when you were there?

A. I was there in the first year of the war, when Bradley Johnson's regiment was there.

Q. For how long?

A. I was then connected with the army, and only remained there for a few days at a time.

Q. With what army?

A. The confederate states army.

Q. What were you doing?

A. I was chaplain to the regiment.

Q. How many times were you in Winchester?

A. Well, I think, three times.

Q. While you were chaplain in this confederate regiment you were there three times only?

A. I am not sure that I was there but three times-that I made but three separate visits.

Q. Were you charged with stealing anything there?

A. Never, sir.

Q. Were you not charged with stealing some silk dresses in Winchester, and taking them to your wife?

A. Never, sir.

Q. Were you not so charged by the confederates themselves?

A. Never, sir; I bought some silk dresses in Richmond, which I paid for,

and sent them to my wife.

Q. Was there any difficulty about these silk dresses ?

A. I never heard of any.

Q. You never heard of any charges that you stole them in Winchester ?

A. Never, sir. If any such charges were ever made, they were by liars. Q. You did not hear of them?

A. Never, sir; I bought two silk dresses in Richmond, for which I gave a pistol, when I ran across the Potomac from Maryland.

Q. My question is whether you got any in Winchester?

A. No, sir; I did not.

Q. Did you get any in Richmond?

A. I bought two there.

Q. What did you give for them?

A. I gave a pistol.

Question objected to by Mr. Bradley as having been already answered. The COURT stated to the witness that he need not answer the questions if he wished not to answer them.

WITNESS replied he preferred to answer.

Q. Did you buy anything else in Richmond?

A. I have bought many things in Richmond.

Q. Did you have any difficulty about any silk dresses you bought at Richmond? A. Never; I got them there myself, paid for them, and sent them by some friend to my wife. I gave $40 apiece.

Q. Did you not state that you paid for them with a pistol?

A. I exchanged a pistol, the value of which was $80, and obtained for it two silk dresses at $40 apiece.

Q. And you never heard of any difficulty in regard to them?

A. Never; I heard my wife would not receive them.

Q. With what regiment were you in the confederate service?
A. The first Maryland.

Q. What were you doing in it?

A. I was chaplain.

Q. Did you continue chaplain the whole time?

A. I always held a commission.

further.

I decline to answer that question any

Q. My question is, did you continue chaplain the whole time?

A. I always held a commission in the confederate states army. I was detailed to other business.

Q. Do you decline to answer my question?

A. Simply because it is irrelevant and impertinent.

Q. That is your reason; if it is, the court will tell you whether you are required to answer it or not?

The court said the witness might decline to answer any question, the answer to which would tend to degrade him.

The witness replied that he did not then decline to answer anything, that there would be nothing in any answer tending to degrade him.

Mr. MERRICK said the court had already decided that any witness might

decline to answer questions of this sort, tending to affect his position.

The court remarked that he had already said that.

Q. What was the date at which you left your regiment?

A. When it broke up.

Q. What was the date?

A. I am not sure, so many events occurred about that time.

Q. Can you tell when you first entered it?

A. My commission was dated the 4th of July.

Q. Did you enter it then?

A. As soon as I could arrive in Winchester, I entered it.

Q. And you continued in it until it broke up. For how long?

A. For about two years, I think. It may have been a little more than a and a half.

year

Q. And you continued as a chaplain in the service for these two years ?
A. I did.

Q. Were you in any other service than that of chaplain ?

A. Latterly, I have been.

Q. During these two years?

A. Not during these two years, unless it was as a volunteer scout or something of the sort.

Q. Did you go away from your regiment?

A. Whenever I had a furlough I went away.

Q. Did you go away?

A. I did, when I had a furlough.

Q. Where did you go?

A. I always went to Richmond when I had a furlough.

Q. Did you go anywhere else?

A. Perhaps to Petersburg.
Q. Did you go to Petersburg?
A. Yes, a number of times.
Q. Did you go anywhere else?
A. Yes, to a number of places.
Q. Did you go into the States?

A. I do not think I crossed into Maryland, while the First Maryland regiment was regularly enrolled.

Q. When was the first time after you entered the confederate service as chaplain, that you came into the other States?

Mr. BRADLEY. [To witness,] you can answer that or not, as you please.
A. It was not long after the battle of Cold Harbor.

Q. What was the date?

A. I do not remember the date.

Q. Cannot you tell the month?

A. I do not remember the month.

Q Cannot you tell the year?

A. I do not know that I can. I do not pretend to have as good a memory as some witnesses who have preceded me.

Q. Is not your memory good?

A. It is admirable. But I prefer in the matter of dates to refer to my diary. Q. Will your diary tell this?

A. No, sir, not that year.

Q. Then your diary will not help you in regard to that?

A. No, sir. I can say that it was shortly after the seven days' battles before Richmond. Soon after the battle of Cold Harbor.

Q. Where did you go to?

A. To Maryland.

Q. What part of Maryland?

A. I decline to localize any place through which I passed in Maryland, and which might compromise any of the people who gave me hospitalities.

Q. Then you decline to answer that question?

A. I decline.

Mr. Bradley again cautioned the witaess that he need not answer these questions.

Q. Where did you go?

A. On these two occasions I went into Maryland only.